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Great, thanks for the 1891. Do you have details of occupation and place of birth? With John Taylor being such a common name, and none being on the igi in Dymock for 1850 +/- 5 for the bap. I don't know if one is he, or none! Thanks, Sue

Thank you for your offer of help. I am trying to find the parents of James Hulse born approx 1863/64. He was married in 1896 and his parents name is James Hulse (deceased) profession Shoemaker. I do not know where James Hulse younger was born or where his father came from. Any info gratefully appreciated. Thanks Helen. Sorry Pen, forgot to say who he married it was Mary Elizabeth Willday. He died at the end of 1898 so isnt on the 1901 census. They had a son also named James Hulse who was born at the beginning of 1898. It is really the birth of James who died and his father I'm desperate for. Thanks for your trouble Helen.

Hi Penelope, Yes thats them in 1901. Cheers, Sue

Sue 1901 for my ref Name: John Taylor Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Esther Gender: Male Where born: Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Dymock Ecclesiastical parish: Preston St John the Baptist County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Redmarley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 79 Household Members: Name Age Alice Taylor 6 Annie Taylor 8 Esther Taylor 39 Frank Taylor 3 George Taylor 7 months John Taylor 50 ******************************** 1891 Name: John Taylor Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Esther Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Dymock Ecclesiastical parish: Preston Town: Upleadon County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Newent Sub-registration district: Redmarley ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Esther Taylor 31 John Taylor 43 *************************** in 1881 I can not find a John Taylor born approx 1850 in that area will check out the 1851 - have you checked the IGI ?

Hi Penelope, Thanks for your offer, this is a difficult one, so I would be grateful if you could find anything. John TAYLOR was bc1851 in Dymock Gloucestershire. in 1886 he married Esther. I have him on the 1901 lving Pear Tree Cottage, Preston, Dymock, Gloucestershire. He was an Ag Lab. I have no idea who his parents were, I would be grateful if you could find him on any census. Many thanks, Sue

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Added by Helen Galea on 29/12/2006 05:56:26 Hello Pen, Hope you had a great Christmas. I would be very grateful if you could look up the following couple on Yorkshire 1891 census. HUGHES Anthony, born<1840> horse keeper, born Galway Ireland HUGHES Hannah, born<1839> born Galway, Ireland In 1871 they were residing at Lofthouse, Yorkshire RG10/4630 with their children Mary 11yrs & Francis 10yrs born in Galway Ireland, and Jane 7yrs born in Lofthouse Yorkshire. They then fall into a black hole - no trace for twenty years until I find them again aged 60 yrs and 62yrs on Yorks West Riding 1901census RG13/4189 . Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. All the best for the New Year. Helen *************************************************** For my ref - 1871 Name: Hannah Hughes Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Antony Gender: Female Where born: Galway, Ireland Civil parish: Lofthouse With Carlton Ecclesiastical parish: Lofthouse Town: Lofthouse County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Ardsley ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 154 Household Members: Name Age Antony Hughes 33 abt 1838 Galway, Ireland Head Frank Hughes 10 abt 1861 Galway, Ireland Son Hannah Hughes 33 abt 1838 Galway, Ireland Wife Jane Hughes 7 abt 1864 Lofthouse, Yorkshire, England Daughter Mary Hughes 11 abt 1860 Galway, Ireland Daughter Thomas Ross 50 abt 1821 Galway, Ireland Boarder *********************************** This might be them on the 1881 census ... What was the occupation for Anthony on the 1871 and 1901 ?? On the 1881 this chap - John - is a horse keeper Name: Francis Hughes Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Son Father's name: John Mother's name: Annie Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Lofthouse Cum Carlton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Employment status: View image Occupation: Railway Waggon Builder Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Ardsley ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Hughes 47 Ireland abt 1834 Francis Hughes 19 Ireland Jane Hughes 16 lofthouse John Hughes 43 Ireland abt 1838 Joseph Ed. Hughes 8 Lofthouse, Yorkshire, England *********************************************** 1901 for my ref ....... Name: Anthony Hughes Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Honorah Gender: Male Where born: Galway, Ireland Civil parish: Hunslet Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Hunslet Sub-registration district: Hunslet ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 275 Household Members: Name Age Anthony Hughes 60 Honorah Hughes 67 Occupation Horse Keeper ***************************************************** Right, now, on the 1891 there is this family - same as the 1881 - but with grandchildren, with the surname of Winter. If we can find the marriage between a Winter and Hughes that fit's, theres a good chance that these are yours.... Name: Annie Hughes Age: 59 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: John Gender: Female Where born: Quam, Galway, Ireland Civil parish: Lofthouse Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Thorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Wakefield Sub-registration district: Ardsley ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Annie Hughes 59 Quam, Galway, Ireland abt 1832 wife John Hughes 57 Knock, Galway, Ireland abt 1834 head Joseph Hughes 19 Lofthorpe, Yorkshire, England abt 1872 son Cissy Winter 4 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England abt 1887 granddaughter Frank Winter 7 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England abt 1884 grandson Gertrude Winter 3 Barnsley, Yorkshire, England abt 1888 Granddaughter also 1891 - Name: Jane A Hughes Age: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Lofthouse, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Skipton Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Skipton County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Skipton Sub-registration district: Skipton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Any ideas?? Pen x

Francis ********** Hi, any other info that you can share with me, struggling to find him on any census at the mo. Pen x

Cindy ******** Hi Cindy, have sent you the details that you need, for ordering the marriage cert. Best of luck Pen x

Hello Pen, Hope you had a great Christmas. I would be very grateful if you could look up the following couple on Yorkshire 1891 census. HUGHES Anthony, born<1840> horse keeper, born Galway Ireland HUGHES Hannah, born<1839> born Galway, Ireland In 1871 they were residing at Lofthouse, Yorkshire RG10/4630 with their children Mary 11yrs & Francis 10yrs born in Galway Ireland, and Jane 7yrs born in Lofthouse Yorkshire. They then fall into a black hole - no trace for twenty years until I find them again aged 60 yrs and 62yrs on Yorks West Riding 1901census RG13/4189 . Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. All the best for the New Year. Helen

Hello Pen....would appreciate any information on William Franklyn Mawe : c1848 (Wellbourn Lincoln???) middle name optional. Regards Frank.

Hi Pen, Thank you for all your help. I will use this info to continue my research and will order their marriage certificate to confirm the names of their fathers. The marriage matches the birth of their children Annie (1964), Thomas (1865) and Lizzy (1867). Do you know the marriage cert reg number as i havent been able to find it myself. Thanx again for the time you have given this one :)) Take care, Cindy

Cindy ******* It's gonna be quite hard without birthplaces etc due to the surnames, a few possibles on the 1861 This must be their marriage - View Record Maria Maxam 1863 Jan-Feb-Mar Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex ***View Record Thomas John Mog___Idge 1863 Jan-Feb-Mar Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex View Record Harriet Eliza Smith 1863 Jan-Feb-Mar St Luke London, Middlesex ***View Record Anna Whyte 1863 Jan-Feb-Mar Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex View Record William Joseph Woodbridge 1863 Jan-Feb-Mar Pancras (1837-1901) London, Middlesex If you order the marriage cert, it will provide you with their fathers names etc Have you checked out the IGI on familysearch.org ??? ***UPDATE As we can he was down as Thomas John on his marriage entry, looking at the IGI, there is this entry for about the right time and place - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THOMAS JOHN MOGDRIDGE Male -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 29 JUL 1840 Christening: 01 NOV 1840 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England Death: Burial: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: THOMAS MOGDRIDGE Family Mother: ANN ************************* could be a match on the 1851 census - Name: Thomas Mogdrige Age: 10 Estimated birth year: abt 1841 Relation: Son Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: St Giles, Middlesex, England Civil parish: St Giles IN The Fields Town: London County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: St Giles Sub-registration district: St Giles North ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 152 Household Members: Name Age Ann Fraser 61 John Fraser 73 Ann Mogdrige 35 St Giles, Middlesex, England abt 1816 daughter Thomas Mogdrige 10

Nick Frost ************ Hi, I have tried the 1871 again - typed in Alfred Frost born Dud* Staf* (incase of spelling errors) and nothing came up that matched. BUT ..I looked at the 1881 census and there is a family with Alfred listed as born Dudley, Staffs. 1881 Name: Alfred Frost Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Dudley, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Wardleworth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 13 Granville St Condition as to marriage: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Police Officer Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Wardleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Alfred Frost 42 Eliza Frost 16 Bagslate, Lancashire, England Emily Frost 10 Hannah Frost 43 Ireland Harry Frost 11 Brideford, Devon, England William A. Frost 14 Rochdale, Lancashire, England I can not find the family that I had found - with Alfred born Daventry - on the 1881. I think it's the same family on both of the census's. **************************************************** If you have a moment I would be grateful if you could look up in the 1901 census... The details are William Frost - born Rochdale - 1867 Wife - Emma Swain - born 1880 possible sibling - John A Frost born Rochdale 1892 ********************** 1901 census - gives this, with John as a son, not a sibling though. Name: William Frost Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1867 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emma Gender: Male Where born: Rochdale, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Sheffield Ecclesiastical parish: Sheffield St Matthew County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Sheffield Sub-registration district: West Sheffield ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 95 Household Members: Name Age Emma Frost 34 abt 1867 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Wife John A Frost 8 abt 1893 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son William Frost 34 abt 1867 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Head Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4361; Folio: 122; Page: 15. Address - Rockingham Supp House Occupation of William - Local Supp Fire Brigade Pen x

Hi Pen, Looks like the 1897 Harry Marsden Geldard died and was replaced so not the Harry Dixon I also found in 1901. Thanks for your efforts. I will keep the Dixon family on file until my friend finds the more recent info on this family, in Leeds library. David

Hello!...Can you plz do a look up for a Thomas Mogdridge and his wife Anna (nee whyte) born around 1840 in the 1841, 51 and 61 census. They emigrated to Australia both aged 27 in 1867 with their 3 children Annie, Thomas and Lizzy. I think they lived in England, possibly london area. Any information would be much appreciated. Cheers Cindy

Thanks Pen - you are a star!! On the 1871 census there was listed an Alfred Frost - born in Dudley, Staffs married to a Hannah from Ireland - so not sure if there are two and I may be wrong or whether one is a typo... If you have a moment I would be grateful if you could look up in the 1901 census... The details are William Frost - born Rochdale - 1867 Wife - Emma Swain - born 1880 possible sibling - John A Frost born Rochdale 1892 thanks again for your help!! Nick

Nick Frost ************ Merry Christmas and very nearly Happy New Year! I would be most grateful if you could look up any details on the following Alfred Frost was born 1839 Dudley, Staffordshire. Hannah O'Melia - his wife - originally from Ireland Eliza Frost - born 1865 - Rochdale William Frost - 1867 - Rochdale Harry Frost - 1870 - Brideford (Bideford?) Devon Emily Frost - 1871- Rochdale Thanks very much Nick Frost ********************************** 1871 for Alfred and Hannah ... do you have this already ? You have not told me which census you would like them on ... Name: Alfred Frost Age: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Deventry, Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Wardleworth Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Rochdale County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Rochdale Sub-registration district: Wardleworth ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 289 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Frost 34 abt 1837 Deventry, Northamptonshire, England Head Eliza Frost 6 abt 1865 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Daughter Emily Frost 1 month abt 1871 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Daughter Hannah Frost 36 abt 1835 Ireland Wife Harry Frost 1 abt 1870 Bideford, Devon, England Son Sarah Frost 8 abt 1863 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Daughter William Frost 4 abt 1867 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Son Bartholomen Plunkett 51 abt 1820 Ireland Lodger ******************** Pen x Where did you get the - born Dudley, Staffs bit from ?? This looks like the chap above, from the 1871, on the census for 1841 ......... Name: Alfred Frost Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1838 Household: View other family members Gender: Male Where born: Northamptonshire, England Civil parish: Braunston Hundred: Fawsley County/Island: Northamptonshire Country: England Source information: HO107/798/4 Registration district: Daventry Sub-registration district: Daventry ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Folio: 14 Page: 20 (click to see others on page) Line number: 10 GSU Number: 438874 View Record Alfred Frost abt 1838 Northamptonshire, England Braunston Northamptonshire View Record Edwin Frost abt 1834 Braunston Northamptonshire View Record Thomas Frost abt 1836 Northamptonshire, England Braunston Northamptonshire *** Have viewed the image and it looks as though they are part of this family, but Ancestry have not listed them as such - Thomas Frost 40 smithy yes born in county Sarah Frost 30 NOT born in county Eliza Frost 9 NOT born in county then Edwin Frost 7 NOT born in county Thomas Frost 5 yes born in county Alfred Frost 3 yes born in county Pen x

Added by Frances Wells on 27/12/2006 10:41:16 Hi Pen, I don't know whether it was me not looking at the right time but I had the impression you had been away - scratching piggies backs etc? Hope Christmas has been good for you and your menagerie. I have a new problem in one Harry Geldard Dixon c.1889 but the Dixon is his adopted name and I don't know the date of his adoption. Guessing his original surname could have been Geldard, I found a Harry Marsden Geldard born Hunslet Mar Q 1888. Please could you find him in 1891 as I cannot see him in 1901. Many thanks, David **************************************** Erm, struggling with this one......and yes have been away for a while. There is also one born later on - BMD Birth Name: Harry Marsden Geldard Year of Registration: 1896 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Hunslet County: Yorkshire - West Riding Volume: 9b Page: 271 (click to see others on page) Which I can find on the 1901 census ....... Name: Harry M Geldard Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1897 Relation: Son Father's name: Daniel M Mother's name: Lily Gender: Male Where born: Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Hunslet Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Hunslet Sub-registration district: Hunslet ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 35 Household Members: Name Age Arthur Geldard 1 month Daniel M Geldard 26 Harry M Geldard 4 Horace Geldard 3 Lily Geldard 27 ****************************** Can not spot Harry Geldard on the 1891 census, however, there is this Dixon chap ..... Name: Harry Dixon Age: 4 Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Mother's name: Eleanor Gender: Male Where born: Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Hunslet Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Hunslet Sub-registration district: Hunslet ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur Dixon 1 abt 1890 Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Son Eleanor Dixon 27 abt 1864 Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Wife Harry Dixon 4 abt 1887 Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Son Joseph Dixon 29 abt 1862 Middlestown, Yorkshire, England Head Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3661; Folio 74; Page 34; GSU roll: 6098771 Pen x

Merry Christmas and very nearly Happy New Year! I would be most grateful if you could look up any details on the following Alfred Frost was born 1839 Dudley, Staffordshire. Hannah O'Melia - his wife - originally from Ireland Eliza Frost - born 1865 - Rochdale William Frost - 1867 - Rochdale Harry Frost - 1870 - Brideford (Bideford?) Devon Emily Frost - 1871- Rochdale Thanks very much Nick Frost