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Kerrie

Kerrie Report 30 May 2007 04:41

Hi, I was wondering if someone out there can help me. I am looking for my great grandmother and great grandfather. For their births and possible marriage. This is what i know: Amy Blake b. 9/3/1888 d. 22/3/1974 Death certificate states that place of birth was Eridge, Kent. But for some reason the box that asks for maiden surname has been crossed out? unsure as to why. Now i looked her up on the 1901 census but i have no idea if it is her as i don't know what her parents names are. At time of death she was living at mitcham rd, Croydon. She had 11 children. All i know about my great grandfather is this: Frederick Francis Taylor b.3/12/1886 d.3/2/1933 He was a jack of all trades. He served in the infantry during WW1. He died from T.B in a sanatorium, not sure which one maybe one that was called Cheam Sanatorium, but like i said i'm unsure. Possibly had a brother named Albert. Had a sister named Anne married named Blythe, who lived to be 100. She was in the Croydon Advertiser because of this, but i am unable to get a copy of this. To be honest i have no idea how to. The weird thing is that on Amy's death certifcate it has his name as John Taylor. Not sure if they are the same person, if he changed his name or what, but i am pretty much stuck. Have no idea if they were even married. My grandfather seems to think it was around 1905, but still unsure. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kerrie

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 May 2007 04:56

If I may? This may make it a little easier to read! Hi, I was wondering if someone out there can help me. I am looking for my great grandmother and great grandfather. For their births and possible marriage. This is what i know: Amy Blake b. 9/3/1888 d. 22/3/1974 Death certificate states that place of birth was Eridge, Kent. But for some reason the box that asks for maiden surname has been crossed out? unsure as to why. Now i looked her up on the 1901 census but i have no idea if it is her as i don't know what her parents names are. At time of death she was living at mitcham rd, Croydon. She had 11 children. All i know about my great grandfather is this: Frederick Francis Taylor b.3/12/1886 d.3/2/1933 He was a jack of all trades. He served in the infantry during WW1. He died from T.B in a sanatorium, not sure which one maybe one that was called Cheam Sanatorium, but like i said i'm unsure. Possibly had a brother named Albert. Had a sister named Anne married named Blythe, who lived to be 100. She was in the Croydon Advertiser because of this, but i am unable to get a copy of this. To be honest i have no idea how to. The weird thing is that on Amy's death certifcate it has his name as John Taylor. Not sure if they are the same person, if he changed his name or what, but i am pretty much stuck. Have no idea if they were even married. My grandfather seems to think it was around 1905, but still unsure. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kerrie

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 May 2007 05:00

This is probably their marriage registration .......... from freebmd.org Surname First name(s) District Vol Page -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blake Amy Croydon 2a 710 Taylor Francis F Croydon 2a 710 You can send off for this certificate, and it will tell you where they were living, their occupations, and the names of their fathers. To order a certificate go to www.gro.gov.org, click on Ordering Certificates at the right of the screen, and follow instructions. Be sure to answer YES when asked if you have the GRO numbers ...... those are the two numbers at the right of the entry i've copied above (2a 710). Each cedrtificate will cost £7 and take approximately 4 to 7 days to arrive (in the UK). Sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 May 2007 05:06

This could be Frederick's birth registration. Order this and it will tell you the names of his parents, and his mother's maiden name, as well as the address where he was born and where they lived. Births Dec 1886 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taylor Frederick Francis Fylde 8e 646 Fylde is in Lancashire. - - - -

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 30 May 2007 05:11

I looked at the Complete Index of bmds on ancestry uk, but cannot find a death for a Frederick Francis (or Francis Frederick!) ....... but there were these two Fredericks of about the right age, dying in the London area. March quarter 1933:- Frederick Taylor, age 47, London C, 1c 6 Frederick Taylor, age 47, St Olave, 1d 169

Georgina

Georgina Report 30 May 2007 09:43

Possible children for Amy & Frederick... Births Mar 1912 (>99%) Taylor Thomas J Blake Croydon 2a 605 Births Mar 1913 (93%) Taylor Lilian C Blake Croydon 2a 620 Births Dec 1913 (94%) Taylor Rosina A Blake Croydon 2a 519 Georgina.

Georgina

Georgina Report 30 May 2007 09:47

Kerrie if you get their marriage certificate it will confirm their fathers names & occupations, then maybe you can confirm Amy on the 1901 census... Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%) >>>Blake Amy Croydon 2a 710 Hookins Annie Croydon 2a 710 Kirby Charles F Croydon 2a 710 >>>Taylor Francis F Croydon 2a 710 Georgina.

Heather

Heather Report 30 May 2007 09:47

Kerrie, you need to buy their marriage certificate to move on - that will give both fathers names and you can then trace them in te 1901 and go backwards through census and certs. You have kindly been given the reference above I believe and where to buy it - send off for the cert and then you will have solid facts to work from.

Kerrie

Kerrie Report 31 May 2007 09:00

Thankyou to everyone for replying. Thankyou Sylvia for making it readable. When i typed it out it looked somewhat like what you did, but i didn't know how to fix it up once i posted it. I will be sending away for the marriage certificate straight away. I guess i was under the assumption that they were married before children or that proper names would be used. I also found in the September quarter a Frederick Taylor died aged 46 in Birmingham. Where is Birmingham.? I'm in Australia so i guess i have got a lot of work to do in terms of where are these places. Georgina, Thomas and Rosina are Amy and Fredericks children. They had 11 altogether but i've only found 8. My grandfather is one of them, he is still alive at 84. I really want to do this for him. I'm still looking for their first child Frederick, who died in infancy. Their second child John who married a woman named Gladys. They had one child and all died of TB. The 10th child was named Roger and he died at around 2 years of age. Thankyou so much everyone, I'm new to this, so your help is much appreciated, Kerrie

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 May 2007 09:23

G'day Kerrie. For some reason these boards (GR) don't allow you to use paragraphs in your initial posting. What we usually do is type it all out beforehand on something like Notepad & just put 'see below' in the initial message. Then immediately we add a reply & put in our message. It's a little bit harder doing family history from Oz but the internet has made it a lot easier & is getting better every day. This is a wonderful site & the members are so helpful & friendly. You'll get up & running in no time. Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 May 2007 09:26

This is probably Amy. Births Mar 1889 Blake Amy Croydon 2a 251 Update: however this doesn't look good. Deaths Dec 1890 Blake Amy 1 Croydon 2a 175

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 May 2007 09:45

Is your great-grandmother's death cert an Australian one? As Brit ones don't usually have place of birth. Ozi. This is interesting: Probably a relative of some kind- aunt? Marriages Mar 1891 BLAKE Amy Croydon 2a 304 Burnett Sophia Croydon 2a 304 Chappell Frank Croydon 2a 304 Larkworthy William Albert J Croydon 2a 304 1901: Name: Amy Chappell Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Frank Gender: Female Where born: Mintlyan, Norfolk, England Civil parish: Beddington Ecclesiastical parish: Purley Christchurch County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Shop, Brighton Road. Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Mitcham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 144 Household Members: Name Age Frank Chappell 30 - dairyman & cartage contractor Amy Chappell 31 Frank A Chappell 9 Sarah Allison 30 - dairy assistant.

FamilyFogey

FamilyFogey Report 31 May 2007 10:13

Could this be their first child - registered as Taylor although the parents weren't married yet? Births Jun 1911 Taylor Frederick Croydon 2a 324 Deaths Jun 1911 Taylor Frederick 0 Croydon 2a 191 That Thomas J birth in 1912 may well be Thomas John - and the second child you mentioned.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 May 2007 10:28

Possible birth and death for Frederick altho born before they married. Birth Frederick Taylor June 1911 Croyden 2a 324 Death Frederick Taylor June 1911 Croyden 2a 191

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 May 2007 10:29

could this be frederick in 1901 Name: Frederick Taylor Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation: Son Father's name: George Mother's name: Ann Gender: Male Where born: Freckleton, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Blackpool Ecclesiastical parish: Marton St Paul Town: Blackpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Fylde Sub-registration district: Blackpool ED, institution, or vessel: 33 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 136 Household Members: Name Age Agnes Taylor 14 Alice Taylor 9 Ann Taylor 36 Frederick Taylor 15 George Taylor 39 George Taylor 3 John H Taylor 6 Nathaniel Taylor 12 View Original Record View original image

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 May 2007 10:33

this is the only Amy coming up in the 1891 census with correct year of birth and place of birth Erith Kent. Name: Amy P Buckingham Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Daughter Father's name: George Mother's name: Fanny Gender: Female Where born: Erith, Kent, England Civil parish: Erith Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Erith County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Dartford Sub-registration district: Bexley ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Adela L Buckingham 3/12 Amy P Buckingham 3 Fanny Buckingham 42 Fanny L Buckingham 5 George Buckingham 50 George F Buckingham 10 Walter C Buckingham 6 William H Buckingham 8

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 May 2007 10:36

There is an Eridge in Kent .Its on the Crowborough to Tunbridge Wells road. Its two miles South of Tunbridge Wells so would have thought her birth would be under Tunbridge Wells reg district Update. theres been so many boundery changes and as Eridge was borderline Kent and Sussex its difficult to see what the Reg didtrict might have been I cant find Eridge listed in any district so think it came under a bigger area for registration

CelticShiv

CelticShiv Report 31 May 2007 11:01

whoops my error, thought it said Erith. these are the possibilities for Eridge Births Mar 1888 (>99%) BOBBETT Amy Muriel Tunbridge 2a 678 Scan available - click to view JOYCE Amy Annie Tunbridge 2a 680

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 May 2007 11:48

I wondered if it would be in the parish of Frant but have had no luck. Ozi.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 31 May 2007 11:49

Eridge also contains Eridge Green (an ecclesiastical parish formed on 5 February 1856 from the civil parishes of Frant and Rotherfield). Ozi.