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9 Feb 2004 18:12 |
I need help finding information on my Great Great Granfather, William Steggles, who was born around 1829 and was a greengrocer in Colchester.
Many Thanks
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sarah jane
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14 Apr 2015 20:18 |
Hi I have a Florence steggles and not much more there was some talk of a green grocer in colcester or there abouts. don't know??
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HeyJudeB4Beatles
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14 Apr 2015 20:37 |
Sarah Jane...."f" has no posts from 11 years ago.....................
Jude
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AnnCardiff
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14 Apr 2015 20:47 |
just for the record
Name: William Steggles Event Type: Death Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration Year: 1904 Registration District: Colchester County: Essex Event Place: Colchester, Essex, England Age (available after 1866): 75 Birth Year (Estimated): 1829 Volume: 4A Page: 417 Line Number: 280
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AnnCardiff
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14 Apr 2015 20:49 |
Name: Florence Steggles Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Civil Parish: Colchester Ecclesiastical Parish: St Leonard Sub-District: Colchester Third Ward Registration District: Colchester Residence County: Essex Gender: Female Age: 16 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birthplace: Colchester, Essex Record Type: Household
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ArgyllGran
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14 Apr 2015 21:33 |
Sarah Jane -
As Jude said, there are no posts showing for f (hover the cursor over his/her picture, and you'll see that).
That means he/she is no longer a member of GR.
If you would like help with your search for the Steggles family, please give us all the information you have, however little, and we'll see if we can help.
If the Florence Steggles in the 1901 census posted by AnnCardiff is the right one, this is the full household. Her father is a market gardener:
Florence Steggles
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Florence Steggles Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relation to Head: Daughter (Child) Gender: Female Father: Thomas Steggles Mother: Annie Steggles Birth Place: Colchester, Essex, England Civil Parish: Colchester Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address:
Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester, Third Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1711 Folio: 56 Page Number: 9 Household schedule number: 48 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Steggles 39 - market gardener Annie Steggles 36 Florence Steggles 16 Percy Steggles 11 Nellie Steggles 9 Ethel Steggles 7 Elsie Steggles 5 Albert Steggles 2 Eliza Steggles 7/12
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ArgyllGran
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14 Apr 2015 21:37 |
It looks as if William Steggles, mentioned by f, was Thomas's father, and Florence's grandfather. William was a gardener, as was Thomas.
Thomas Steggles
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Thomas Steggles Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relationship to Head: Son (Child) Father: Wm. Steggles Mother: Annie Steggles Gender: Male Where born: Colchester, Essex, England Civil Parish: Colchester St Botolph County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Barrack St Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Gardner Registration district: Colchester Sub registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1787 Folio: 65 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Wm. Steggles 50 Annie Steggles 37 Harry Steggles 24 Thomas Steggles 20 Ada Steggles 11 Annie Howell 17
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ArgyllGran
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14 Apr 2015 21:39 |
By 1901 William was a greengrocer - less physically demanding as he got older, I suppose:
William Steggles
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Steggles Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Annie Steggles Birth Place: Colchester, Essex, England Civil Parish: Colchester Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: View image Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester, First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 05 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1705 Folio: 89 Page Number: 26 Household schedule number: 155 Household Members: Name Age William Steggles 72 Annie Steggles 56 - wife Harry Steggles 45 - son William Steggles 19 - grandson Alfred Steggles 15 - grandson Susan Sparks 13 - grand-daughter
It looks as if Annie was a second wife - unless she had Harry/Henry when she was only about 14.
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ArgyllGran
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14 Apr 2015 21:46 |
Yes, William's first wife, and mother of at least the older children, was Eliza:
Thomas Stygles in the 1871 England Census
Name: Thomas Stygles [Thomas Steggles] Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Son (Child) Father's name: William Stygles Mother's name: Eliza Stygles Gender: Male Where born: Colchester, Essex, England Civil Parish: St Botolph County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 131 Piece: 1683 Folio: 64 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age William Stygles 39 Eliza Stygles 42 Emma Stygles 18 Sarah Stygles 16 Harry Stygles 14 Hannah Stygles 11 Thomas Stygles 9 Ada Stygles 1
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ArgyllGran
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14 Apr 2015 21:49 |
Eliza's death:
Deaths Dec 1876 (>99%) STEGGLES Eliza 49 Colchester 4a 192
And William's remarriage:
Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%) HOWELL Ann Colchester 4a 443 STEGGLES William Colchester 4a 443
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14 Apr 2015 21:50 |
Just thought I would point out, that having 0 posts does not mean they are no longer a member as such
Couple of years ago someone posted on a 10 year old thread with 0 posts..... Which I pointed out..... 3 months later the poster returned saying she was still here and now had 54 posts..... No she hadn't posted that many times since the thread was resurrected... So must be some sort of glitch in the system
If you drop down from paying to free member the posts will still be showing a number, so why some are not is a mystery
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ArgyllGran
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14 Apr 2015 21:53 |
Thanks, Jax.
Well, in that case, Sarah Jane, you can try clicking on f's name, and sending a private message. GR may perhaps be able to notify f that he/she has a message from you, if his/her email address is still the same one that was registered with GR.
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Cynthia
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15 Apr 2015 12:03 |
As Sarah Jane is a new poster herself, she may not know how to find these replies. I will let her know how the system works. :-)
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ArgyllGran
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15 Apr 2015 17:36 |
William and family in 1861 - he's a greengrocer:
William Steggles in the 1861 England Census
Name: William Steggles Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: 1831 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Stegglees Gender: Male Where born: Windsor, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Colchester St Botolph County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 140 Piece: 1097 Folio: 70 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age William Steggles 30 Eliza Stegglees 32 - tailoress, born Great Clacton Emma Stegglees 8 Sarah Stegglee 4 Harry E Stegglees 4 Hannah Stegglees 2
Possibly William and Eliza's marriage??
Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%) BAREHAM Eliza Colchester 12 85 Steggall William Colchester 12 85
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ArgyllGran
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15 Apr 2015 17:42 |
Eliza in 1851 - an unmarried tailoress - with an illegitimate son:
Eliza Bareham
in the 1851 England Census Name: Eliza Bareham Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Clacton, Essex, England Civil Parish: Colchester St James County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 3c Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 54 Piece: 1781 Folio: 611 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Tricker 36 Calvin Tricker 43 Maria Tricker 15 Sarah Tricker 13 Thomas Tricker 11 John Tricker 9 Eliza Bareham 22 William Bareham 5 Mo - born Colchester
Ancestry has young William wrongly transcribed as son of Thomas Tricker and his wife.
He's actually the son of William Steggles:
Births Dec 1850 (>99%) Barham William Steggles Colchester 12 60
I don't see him in 1861, so far - not with Eliza and William Steggles, anyway, and don't see a death.
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sarah jane
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16 Apr 2015 08:41 |
why thank you so much everyone who has helped me with my search. I didn't know that I had replies. Didn't know where until I was advised . Thanks again everyone.. I have new Info for steggles. Soo excited and would love for some help thank you.
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sarah jane
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16 Apr 2015 14:35 |
Florence steggles., born about 1885/7, married Frederick joseph turner, oct 1913,died, 1 Feb. 1952 Lambeth London aged 65.they lived in waterloo London se1 her dad was thought to be a policeman and I think his name might be ben. I would like to find the steggles side, who her mum and dad were and siblings etc. I would be grateful for any help in my family tree thanks again everyone.
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16 Apr 2015 19:43 |
Name: Florence Steggles Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 4 Jan 1885 Father's name: Benjamin Steggles Mother's name: Elizabeth Steggles Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 10 th March 1882
1891
Name: Florence Steggles Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Daughter (Child) Father's name: Benjamin Steggles Mother's name: Elizabeth Steggles Gender: Female Where born: Islington, London, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: London City County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington South West ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 151 Folio: 86 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Steggles 41police constable Elizabeth Steggles 39 Benjamin Steggles 16 Frederick G Steggles 13 Thomas Steggles 11 Florence Steggles 9 Alice M Steggles 6 Elizabeth Steggles 1
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16 Apr 2015 19:48 |
Name: Benjamin Steggles Spouse: Elizabeth Butcher Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 9 Mar 1874 Parish: Holy Trinity, Islington Borough: Islington Father Name: Robert Steggles Spouse Father: John Butcher Register Type: Parish Register
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16 Apr 2015 21:09 |
Name: Florence Steggles Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 28 Birth Date: 1885 Marriage Date: 5 Oct 1913 Marriage Place: St. Philip, Camberwell, Surrey, England Father: Benjamin Steggles, police constable (dec) Spouse: Frederick Joseph Turner FHL Film Number: 475330 Reference ID: v 15 p 58
Name: Frederick Joseph Turner, coachman Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 23 Birth Date: 1890 Marriage Date: 5 Oct 1913 Marriage Place: St. Philip, Camberwell, Surrey, England Father: Charles Turner, carman Spouse: Florence Steggles FHL Film Number: 475330 Reference ID: v 15 p 58
Charles and Louisa Turner were witnesses.
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