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Trying to find Wright

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jan 2021 20:45

If he was on a voters' list in 1938, he must have been born in 1907 at the latest.

***EDIT - sorry, I meant 1917 *******



This is the ER in question:

Kenneth Sidney Wright
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Kenneth Sidney Wright
Electoral Date: 1938
Ward or Division/Constituency: Uxbridge West
County or Borough: Uxbridge, England

He's with John William and HELEN Gertrude Wright.
Address: 5 Bethel Place

John & Helen were at that address in previous years, but Kenneth not listed with them.


So this is presumably the marriage:

John William Wright
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: John William Wright
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1861
Marriage Date: 27 Jan 1892
Marriage Place: St Michael, Wood Green, Haringey, England
Father:
John William Wright
Spouse:
Helen Gertrude Hood Jules
Register Type: Parish Register

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jan 2021 20:48

Helen Gertrude Wright
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Helen Gertrude Wright
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Corton, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Gerrards Cross
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Devon Villas, The Common Gerrards Cross, Bucks
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 19
Estimated Marriage Year: 1892
Registration District Number: 144
Sub-registration District: Burnham
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 7863
Household Members:
Name Age
John William Wright 50
Helen Gertrude Wright 42
Mary Wright 78
Alice Margaret Wheatley 14 - niece


Helen G Wright
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Helen G Wright
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: John W Wright
Birth Place: Corton, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Harrow on the Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: Greenhill St John the Baptist
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Hendon
Sub-registration District: Harrow
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 1207
Folio: 134
Page Number: 10
Household Schedule Number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Wright 40
Helen G Wright 33
John K Wright 13
John H Wright 73
Mary Wright 68
Edith M Wheatley 6 - niece

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jan 2021 20:59

Deaths Dec 1938 (>99%)
Wright John W 78 Uxbridge 3a 102

Deaths Mar 1939 (>99%)
Wright Ellen G 72 Uxbridge 3a 84

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jan 2021 21:13

Kenneth isn't at 5 Bethel Place in 1939.

The residents there are Ann M Smith and her son Victor G Smith.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 22 Jan 2021 21:31


Why was he thought to be ivy,s child

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jan 2021 22:06

Ernest said:

"Ivy gave his adopted mother (shown as Aunt) as next of kin on some travel documents".


There are lots of travel records for her, but I haven't found one with NOK details so far.

The original poster ("Unknown") said:
" . .Kenneth Sidney (natural mothers name Ivy Zanita Bound)".

As he was Unknown's father, presumably he/she had some paperwork to prove it.

Unknown

Unknown Report 23 Jan 2021 00:04

Thanks for all the replies most of which I have already found. I think the arithmetic is somewhat suspect however. The voting age in 1938 was 21 which means he would have been born about 1917 when my great aunt was 23 He would have been adopted at age 13/14 and for all we know may have been living with them for some time. The travel documents showing Helen Wright as Aunt and next of kin are on the 2nd page. You will note she was travelling on a diplomatic passport so her change of name must have been 'official' as I am sure she would have been vetted
Ernest

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 23 Jan 2021 09:04

So has a birth been found for him as brown or bound

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2021 09:18

Yes, sorry - of course I should have said 1917 - senior slip of mental arithmetic!

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2021 09:33

This child born in Wales - but maybe ?? Could Kenneth Sidney really have been John Henry, and moved back to Wales in 1938-39 ??
Seems highly unikely, I admit. But there is the matter of the added middle name Bennett.


BOUND, JOHN HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1917 D Quarter in NEWTOWN Volume 11B Page 200


John Henry B Bound
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: John Henry B Bound
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1917
Registration Date: Nov 1990
Registration District: Stafford
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 30
Page: 1170

John Henry Bennett Bound
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: John Henry Bennett Bound
Death Date: 1 Nov 1990
Death Place: Stafford
Probate Date: 9 Jan 1991
Probate Registry: Birmingham


John H B Bound
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: John H B Bound
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1917
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 8
Residence Place: Llanidloes, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Occupation: Pearl Insurance Agen??
Line Number: 28
Schedule Number: 85
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: ZSBA
Borough: Llanidloes
Registration district: 616-1
Household Members Age
Sarah C Evans 57
John H B Bound 22

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Jan 2021 09:38

No, maybe not!

This looks like a much better possibiility for Kenneth's birth:

BROWN, KENNETH SIDNEY -
GRO Reference: 1917 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 1200 Occasional Copy: A


I don't see Kenneth Sidney Wright in 1939 under Wright or Brown.


A Kenneth Sidney Brown is in Islington (a police officer) in 1939, but that's NOT him.
DOB 12/1/1916. Mother's name Webb. Married Clementina Lilian Maud Rolfe in 1940, and died in 1951.