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Jack
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28 Oct 2024 15:47 |
Hi I have arrived back at the 1871 census with my Davison ( Davidson on 1871 census) line and am unable to get back further. I am looking for the birth record for William born abt 1865 Scotswood and a marriage (if this happened of course) for his parents Joesph and Isabella (surname unknown). Here is the 1871 census.. any help with this would be most appreciated. Thank you Jack
William Davidson in the 1871 England Census
Name William Davidson Age 6 Estimated Birth Year 1865 Relation Son Gender Male Where born Soctswood, Northumberland, England Civil parish Benwell Ecclesiastical parish Benwell St James Town Scottswood County/Island Northumberland Country England Registration district Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district Westgate ED, institution, or vessel 36 Household schedule number 112 Piece 5083 Folio 55 Page number 22 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Joseph Davidson 47 Head Isabella Davidson 43 Wife Mary Davidson 23 Daughter Isabella Davidson 19 Daughter Margret Davidson 11 Daughter William Davidson 6 Son Isabella Davidson 2 Daughter
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2024 16:08 |
First point………birth may not have been registered, as there were no penalties for not doing so until 1875. Have you looked?
The GRO site is FREE and gives MMN on all records
Second point……..have you tried looking for marriage of the parents on freebmd?
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2024 16:16 |
I would think there’s an error on 1871. Hardly likely for the couple to have two daughters named Isabella and alive
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28 Oct 2024 16:16 |
Are the parents and older children on the 1861 census and have you found any baptisms for any of the other children?
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2024 16:22 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Scotswood Village, Benwell, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Joseph Davidson Head Married Male 36 1825 Waterman Benwell, Northumberland, England Isabella Davidson Wife - Female 35 1826 - Newburn, Northumberland, England Mary A Davidson Daughter Unmarried Female 13 1848 Scholar Benwell, Northumberland, England Isabella Davidson Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Portswood, Northumberland, England Margaret E Davidson Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Portswood, Northumberland, England
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Jack
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28 Oct 2024 16:22 |
I have got back to 1871 so 1861 census not as yet located. No baptisms found for other children on 1871 census I havent found a marriage for a Joseph Davidson or Davison and an Isabella There appear to be a number of William's born around 1865 in Newcastle reg district so without MMN i dont know which is the correct one
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Jack
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28 Oct 2024 16:23 |
1861 Thank you Erika :-D
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2024 16:30 |
There are several possible marriages on freebmd
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Jack
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28 Oct 2024 16:31 |
ok thank you i will have a look :-)
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2024 16:33 |
This is the younger child, Isabella..........illegitimate, and probably Mary's child
DAVIDSON, ISABELLA - GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE Volume 10B Page 1
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28 Oct 2024 16:39 |
Several of the William births are on www.freereg.org.uk. But I didn’t spot one with those parents.
If Isabella is Mary’s child, could William also be one?
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2024 16:43 |
Can't as yet see any of them in 1851
Odds are the births weren't registered...
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28 Oct 2024 17:25 |
From Freereg (but nothing on GRO):
County Northumberland Place (Links to more information) Benwell Church name (Links to more information) St James Register type (Links to more information) Other Transcript Register entry number 1101 Baptism date 23 Oct 1859 Person forename Margaret Elizabeth Person sex ? Father forename Joseph Mother forename Isabella Father surname DAVISON Person abode Scotswood Father occupation Waterman Transcribed by Susan Mcginty File line number 945
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Jack
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28 Oct 2024 17:27 |
William Davidson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 View England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name William Davidson Registration Date 1865 Quarter of the Year Apr-May-Jun Registration Place Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Volume 10b Page 23 MMN Graham
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2024 17:30 |
Check for other childrens’ births with same MMN on the GRO site
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Jack
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28 Oct 2024 17:30 |
Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%) Cardwell Eleanor Marianna Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view DAVISON George Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view DAVISON Joseph Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view Graham Isabella Newcastle Tyne 25 429 Scan available - click to view HARDMAN Mary Ann Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view HENDERSON Hannah Newcastle T. 25 429 Scan available - click to view OLIVER Alexander Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view SMITH Thomas Newcastle T 25 429 Scan available - click to view
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Jack
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28 Oct 2024 17:30 |
HOORAH!!
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Jack
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28 Oct 2024 18:30 |
Thank you for your help :-)
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alviegal
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29 Oct 2024 13:00 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 27, Chapel Terrace, Benwell, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Household members (4 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Davison Head Married Male 57 1824 Waterman Benwell, Northumberland, England Isabella Davison Wife Married Female 54 1827 Waterman wife Newburn, Northumberland, England William Davison Son Single Male 16 1865 Paper maker Benwell, Northumberland, England Isabella Davison Grand daughter Single Female 12 1869 Waterman gr daur Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
and a possible for Isabella Graham with her family. Obviously needs checked out thoroughly before accepting it.
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Scotswood Village, Newburn, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England
Household members (5 people) First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place Philip Graham Male 44 1797 Northumberland, England Mary Graham Female 36 1805 - >>Isabel Graham Female 14 1827 Northumberland, England Margaret Heppell Female 5 1836 - Richard Bell Graham Male 1 1840 -
and her baptism
First name(s) Isabella Country England Last name Graham Archive Durham University Library Archive reference DDR/EA/PBT/2/187 Baptism year 1827 Document type Bishop's Transcripts Baptism date 06 May 1827 Register type Baptisms, marriages & burials Father's first name(s) Philip Father's occupation Labourer Page 259 >>Mother's first name(s) Isabella Record set Northumberland Baptisms Residence Dumpling Hall Place Newburn
First name(s) Philip Spouse's marital status Widow Last name Graham First witness John Brookbank Residence Newburn Second witness William Moore Marital status Widower Licence or banns Licence Marriage year 1838 Record type Bishop's Transcripts Marriage date 04 Aug 1838 Archive Durham University Library Denomination Anglican Archive reference DDR/EA/PBT/2/187 Place Newburn County Northumberland Register year range 1819-1856 Country England Record set Northumberland Marriages Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann Spouse's last name Heppell Spouse's residence Newburn
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alviegal
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29 Oct 2024 13:27 |
Mary Ann's birth?
GRAHAM, MARY ANN - GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in CASTLE WARD UNION Volume 25 Page 247
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