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Richard
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19 Oct 2024 08:53 |
Could someone give me the details of 1939 Register in relation to Patricia Marjory King who was born on the 16th May 1929. Unfortunately I have no other information.
Thanks in anticipation
Richard
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nameslessone
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19 Oct 2024 09:00 |
There seem to be a number of Patricia M King’s on freebmd so could you make a guess at the area of the country she was born in.
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Richard
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19 Oct 2024 09:06 |
Maybe Essex .In 1957 she was living in Walthamstow and she married in Redbridge. East End, Romford?
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ErikaH
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19 Oct 2024 09:49 |
Married to whom?
Died when?
EDITED.......DIED 2007
This is connected to your FIRST!! ANDREWS thread…….you should have said so. Info about the woman on there!! You DID have information about her.........................
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1403308
Posting multiple connected threads is not advisable
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Richard
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19 Oct 2024 09:50 |
Sorry. I'm going out for the day so I will not be able to reply to any correspondence until late this evening.
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ErikaH
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19 Oct 2024 09:52 |
She isn’t an open record in 1939.
She did NOT marry BRIAN MAC ANDREWS - as per info I provided some days ago
Didn't die till 2007, so no chance of her being visible on 1939 before 2029/30, unless someone requests it and provides evidence of death
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ErikaH
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19 Oct 2024 10:41 |
Her birth.....you could have found it yourself using freebmd and the GRO website
KING, PATRICIA MARGERY HOOKINS GRO Reference: 1929 J Quarter in EPPING Volume 04A Page 649
Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%) Hookins Helen E King Edmonton 3a 1542 King Alfred W J Hookins Edmonton 3a 1542
1939 Register 2, Waltham Forest, Chingford M.B., Essex, England Alfred W J King 05 Jul 1897 Male - Married 44 1 Helen E King 29 Dec 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 44 2 Winifred R King 15 Sep 1921 Female - Single 44 3 Constance L Birch (King) 11 Aug 1923 Female Elec Lamp Maker Single 44 4 Ralph W Flint 20 Jul 1888 Male Woolwich Cia Inspector (Heavy) Married 44 5
No 'closed' record, so no idea where Patricia was
1921 Census Of England & Wales 12, Salisbury Road, Chingford, Essex, England
Alfred William James King Head Male 1897 23 Lowton, London, England Glas Battle Blour J Barrett & Co Helen Elizabeth King Wife Female 1898 23 Camden Town, London, England Home Duties - Helen Jessie King Daughter Female 1920 1 Tottenham, Middlesex, England - -
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ErikaH
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19 Oct 2024 10:56 |
The date of birth on this transcription on Ancestry is not correct...........the Americans have reversed it using their format.
Name MS Patricia Marjory Andrews Gender Female Age 78 Birth Date 5 Dec 1929*************************************12th MAY Last Residence Redruth, Cornwall, England Postal Code District Tr15 Death Date 22 Oct 2007
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ErikaH
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19 Oct 2024 11:02 |
Name Helen Elizabeth Hookins Gender Female Marriage Age 22 Record Type Marriage Birth Date abt 1897 Marriage Date 2 Aug 1919 Marriage Place Saint Ann, Stamford Hill: South Grove, Haringey, England Father Edwin Alfred Hookins Spouse Alfred William James King
Name Ellen Elizabeth Hookins Gender F (Female) Birth Date 1898 Birth Place Camden Town Father Edwin Alfred Hookins Mother Jessie Jeffery
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ErikaH
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19 Oct 2024 11:12 |
KING, ALFRED WILLIAM JAMES DENNIS GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 70
Name Alfred William James King Gender Male Record Type Baptism Baptism Date 25 Jul 1897 Baptism Place St John, Hoxton, Hackney, England Father Alfred King Mother Mary Ann King
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) Dennis Mary Ann Shoreditch 1c 171 King Alfred Shoreditch 1c 171
Name Alfred William James King Age 56 Record Type Burial Birth Date 5th July 1897 Death Date abt 1953 Burial Date 4 Dec 1953 Burial Place Waltham Forest, Greater London, England Cemetery Chingford Mount Cemetery Cemetery Section E.6 Grave Number C/R 57679 Interment Number C/R 57679
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ErikaH
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19 Oct 2024 11:25 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 30, Boston Road, Walthamstow, West Ham, London & Essex, England
Alfred King Head Married Male 28 1873 Glass bottle blower Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Mary A King Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Mary A R King Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Florence H King Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Alfred King Son - Male 4 1897 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England Arthur King Son - Male 1 1900
1911 Census For England & Wales 212 Fulbourn Road Walthamstow, Walthamstow, London & Essex, England Alfred King Head Married Male 38 1873 Glass bottle blower London Hoxton Mary Ann King Wife Married Female 38 1873 - London St Lukes Mary Ann Rose King Daughter Single Female 17 1894 French polisher London Hoxton Hannah Florence King Daughter Single Female 15 1896 French polisher London Hoxton Alfred William James King Son - Male 13 1898 School newsboy London Hoxton Arthur King Son - Male 11 1900 School newsboy London Hoxton Maria Alice King Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Essex Walthamstow Edward Albert King Son - Male 5 1906 - Essex Walthamstow Caleb James King Son - Male 3 1908 - Essex Walthamstow Stephen George King Son - Male 1 1910 - Essex Walthamstow
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ErikaH
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19 Oct 2024 11:56 |
1911 Census For England & Wales 26 Elizabeth Road S Tottenham, Tottenham, Middlesex, England Edwin Alfred Hookins Head Married Male 48 1863 Unemployed horsekeepr Camden Town Jessie Hookins Wife Married Female 45 1866 - Chelsea Edwin John Hookins Son Single Male 23 1888 Bakers barrowman Kentish Town Jeffrey Charles Hookins Son Single Male 21 1890 Plumbers mate Camden Town William Carl Hookins Son - Male 15 1896 Printers apprentice Camden Town Ellen Elizabeth Hookins Daughter - Female 13 1898 School Camden Town Harry Fredrick Hookins Son - Male 11 1900 School Tottenham
1921 Census Of England & Wales 26, Elizabeth Road, Tottenham, Middlesex, England Edwin Alfred Haskins Head Male 1863 58 Camden Town, Middlesex, England Labourer In Gas Works L H & P Company Jessie Haskins Wife Female 1866 55 Chelsea, Middlesex, England House Wife Private Harry Frederick Haskins Son Male 1900 21 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Timber Porter Duduan Tuckers Laurance Rd, Tottenham William George Jeffery Nephew Male 1904 17 Middlesex, Surname corrections submitted to FMP
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Richard
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20 Oct 2024 07:55 |
Hi ErikaH,
Once again thank you for your endeavours; they are much appreciated. Sorry if I breached the etiquette of the site, but if you don't know the rules it is easy to break them unintentionally.
Your suggestion that i could have found Patricia's birth myself rather defeats the point of the forum which is to help those who do not have the skills or the tools to do it themselves.
The information you gave me that Patricia did not marry was wrong; Patricia M Andrews married Brian M Andrews in the Redbridge District in 1967. .
Thanks again
Richard
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ErikaH
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20 Oct 2024 09:49 |
As I said in my post on your other thread the woman changed her name by Deed Poll and I therefore did not notice the marriage some ten years later as Andrews. TBH, I didn’t even look for one
The ‘tools’ for finding births are FREE to all and widely identified on these boards. It is so much more rewarding for you if you can find info yourself
To be certain that the info I have suggested is the right person, your contact should buy a copy of the marriage cert
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Richard
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20 Oct 2024 11:29 |
Thanks for the advice. I assumed that The GRO was a paying site.
Richard
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nameslessone
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20 Oct 2024 12:24 |
The ability to search for a mother’s name on the GRO is a fairly new change. You do have to register to do it and, of course, you have to pay for certificates, some of which can then be downloaded. You also have to register for the free Family Search site but Freebmd/ Freereg and Freecen are all easy to access with no registration.
Just for added info, you can apply for wills from the gov. Probate office.
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Richard
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26 Oct 2024 09:08 |
Hi Erikah, You will be pleased to know that all the information which you supplied to me in relation to both the Kings and Andrews is spot on. Also thanks to namelessone for your advice. .
Cheers Richard
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