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Hi Erikah, You will be pleased to know that all the information which you supplied to me in relation to both the Kings and Andrews is spot on. Also thanks to namelessone for your advice.
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Cheers Richard

The ability to search for a mother’s name on the GRO is a fairly new change. You do have to register to do it and, of course, you have to pay for certificates, some of which can then be downloaded.
You also have to register for the free Family Search site but Freebmd/ Freereg and Freecen are all easy to access with no registration.

Just for added info, you can apply for wills from the gov. Probate office.

Thanks for the advice. I assumed that The GRO was a paying site.

Richard

As I said in my post on your other thread the woman changed her name by Deed Poll and I therefore did not notice the marriage some ten years later as Andrews. TBH, I didn’t even look for one

The ‘tools’ for finding births are FREE to all and widely identified on these boards.
It is so much more rewarding for you if you can find info yourself

To be certain that the info I have suggested is the right person, your contact should buy a copy of the marriage cert

Hi ErikaH,

Once again thank you for your endeavours; they are much appreciated. Sorry if I breached the etiquette of the site, but if you don't know the rules it is easy to break them unintentionally.

Your suggestion that i could have found Patricia's birth myself rather defeats the point of the forum which is to help those who do not have the skills or the tools to do it themselves.

The information you gave me that Patricia did not marry was wrong; Patricia M Andrews married Brian M Andrews in the Redbridge District in 1967. .

Thanks again

Richard

1911 Census For England & Wales
26 Elizabeth Road S Tottenham, Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Edwin Alfred Hookins Head Married Male 48 1863 Unemployed horsekeepr Camden Town
Jessie Hookins Wife Married Female 45 1866 - Chelsea
Edwin John Hookins Son Single Male 23 1888 Bakers barrowman Kentish Town
Jeffrey Charles Hookins Son Single Male 21 1890 Plumbers mate Camden Town
William Carl Hookins Son - Male 15 1896 Printers apprentice Camden Town
Ellen Elizabeth Hookins Daughter - Female 13 1898 School Camden Town
Harry Fredrick Hookins Son - Male 11 1900 School Tottenham

1921 Census Of England & Wales
26, Elizabeth Road, Tottenham, Middlesex, England
Edwin Alfred Haskins Head Male 1863 58 Camden Town, Middlesex, England Labourer In Gas Works L H & P Company
Jessie Haskins Wife Female 1866 55 Chelsea, Middlesex, England House Wife Private
Harry Frederick Haskins Son Male 1900 21 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Timber Porter Duduan Tuckers Laurance Rd, Tottenham
William George Jeffery Nephew Male 1904 17 Middlesex, Surname corrections submitted to FMP

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
30, Boston Road, Walthamstow, West Ham, London & Essex, England

Alfred King Head Married Male 28 1873 Glass bottle blower Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Mary A King Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Mary A R King Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Florence H King Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Alfred King Son - Male 4 1897 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Arthur King Son - Male 1 1900

1911 Census For England & Wales
212 Fulbourn Road Walthamstow, Walthamstow, London & Essex, England
Alfred King Head Married Male 38 1873 Glass bottle blower London Hoxton
Mary Ann King Wife Married Female 38 1873 - London St Lukes
Mary Ann Rose King Daughter Single Female 17 1894 French polisher London Hoxton
Hannah Florence King Daughter Single Female 15 1896 French polisher London Hoxton
Alfred William James King Son - Male 13 1898 School newsboy London Hoxton
Arthur King Son - Male 11 1900 School newsboy London Hoxton
Maria Alice King Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Essex Walthamstow
Edward Albert King Son - Male 5 1906 - Essex Walthamstow
Caleb James King Son - Male 3 1908 - Essex Walthamstow
Stephen George King Son - Male 1 1910 - Essex Walthamstow

KING, ALFRED WILLIAM JAMES DENNIS
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 70

Name Alfred William James King
Gender Male
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 25 Jul 1897
Baptism Place St John, Hoxton, Hackney, England
Father Alfred King
Mother Mary Ann King

Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
Dennis Mary Ann Shoreditch 1c 171
King Alfred Shoreditch 1c 171

Name Alfred William James King
Age 56
Record Type Burial
Birth Date 5th July 1897
Death Date abt 1953
Burial Date 4 Dec 1953
Burial Place Waltham Forest, Greater London, England
Cemetery Chingford Mount Cemetery
Cemetery Section E.6
Grave Number C/R 57679
Interment Number C/R 57679

Name Helen Elizabeth Hookins
Gender Female
Marriage Age 22
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1897
Marriage Date 2 Aug 1919
Marriage Place Saint Ann, Stamford Hill: South Grove, Haringey, England
Father Edwin Alfred Hookins
Spouse Alfred William James King


Name Ellen Elizabeth Hookins
Gender F (Female)
Birth Date 1898
Birth Place Camden Town
Father Edwin Alfred Hookins
Mother Jessie Jeffery

The date of birth on this transcription on Ancestry is not correct...........the Americans have reversed it using their format.

Name MS Patricia Marjory Andrews
Gender Female
Age 78
Birth Date 5 Dec 1929*************************************12th MAY
Last Residence Redruth, Cornwall, England
Postal Code District Tr15
Death Date 22 Oct 2007

Her birth.....you could have found it yourself using freebmd and the GRO website

KING, PATRICIA MARGERY HOOKINS
GRO Reference: 1929 J Quarter in EPPING Volume 04A Page 649

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
Hookins Helen E King Edmonton 3a 1542
King Alfred W J Hookins Edmonton 3a 1542

1939 Register
2, Waltham Forest, Chingford M.B., Essex, England
Alfred W J King 05 Jul 1897 Male - Married 44 1
Helen E King 29 Dec 1897 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 44 2
Winifred R King 15 Sep 1921 Female - Single 44 3
Constance L Birch (King) 11 Aug 1923 Female Elec Lamp Maker Single 44 4
Ralph W Flint 20 Jul 1888 Male Woolwich Cia Inspector (Heavy) Married 44 5

No 'closed' record, so no idea where Patricia was


1921 Census Of England & Wales
12, Salisbury Road, Chingford, Essex, England

Alfred William James King Head Male 1897 23 Lowton, London, England Glas Battle Blour J Barrett & Co
Helen Elizabeth King Wife Female 1898 23 Camden Town, London, England Home Duties -
Helen Jessie King Daughter Female 1920 1 Tottenham, Middlesex, England - -

She isn’t an open record in 1939.

She did NOT marry BRIAN MAC ANDREWS - as per info I provided some days ago

Didn't die till 2007, so no chance of her being visible on 1939 before 2029/30, unless someone requests it and provides evidence of death

Sorry. I'm going out for the day so I will not be able to reply to any correspondence until late this evening.

Married to whom?

Died when?

EDITED.......DIED 2007

This is connected to your FIRST!! ANDREWS thread…….you should have said so. Info about the woman on there!!
You DID have information about her.........................

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1403308

Posting multiple connected threads is not advisable

Maybe Essex .In 1957 she was living in Walthamstow and she married in Redbridge. East End, Romford?

There seem to be a number of Patricia M King’s on freebmd so could you make a guess at the area of the country she was born in.

Could someone give me the details of 1939 Register in relation to Patricia Marjory King who was born on the 16th May 1929. Unfortunately I have no other information.

Thanks in anticipation

Richard