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On the "Daily Southern Cross" passenger list for the Warwick, Emma and John's children are included:

Holtham: John 35, Emma 33, William 14, Emma 12, Ellen 9, Mary 7, Fanny 3, John 1.

Birth of William Henry, mentioned earlier - so a marriage in 1877 would fit:

William Henry Claydon
in the New Zealand, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1840-1902
Name William Henry Claydon
Birth Date 1878
Birth Place New Zealand
Father William Claydon
Mother Emma Claydon
Birth Registration Number 1878/17927

and Ernest:

Ernest Claydon
in the New Zealand, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1840-1902
Name Ernest Claydon
Birth Date 1881
Birth Place New Zealand
Father William Claydon
Mother Emma Claydon
Birth Registration Number 1881/2263

No exact location details.


ADDED:
Also Annie:

Annie Claydon
in the New Zealand, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1840-1902
Name Annie Claydon
Birth Date 1883
Birth Place New Zealand
Father William Claydon
Mother Emma Claydon
Birth Registration Number 1883/5458

Jink -
I don't see any record of a marriage of William and Emma.

Aha! I've now found another (claiming to be complete) newspaper list of passengers for the Warwick' voyage leaving UK on either 10 or 11 Oct 1874, depending on which report you look at.

This report:

EMIGRANTS FOR AUCKLAND.
Daily Southern Cross, Volume XXX, Issue 5412, 28 December 1874, Page 2

Passenger names are divided into groups: Families, Single Men, and Single Women.
"Families" includes William and Susan.
"Single women" includes Fanny, 19.

She isn't a child of William and Susan - DOB proves that, and also mmn.

Where families in the "Families" list include children, even adult "children", they are all listed together, but Fanny Claydon, 19, single woman, is listed separately.

I think it's just a coincidence of name.

Above person may be identical to:

First name(s) Fanny Louisa
Last name Claydon
Volume 1B
Birth registration year 1855
Page 92
Registration quarter 2
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Mother's maiden name Garrard **************************
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District St. Pancras
Subcategory Civil Births
County London

May be the Fanny listed on the Warwick ???

Family Search
Migration • New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973
page 22

Given Name: Fanny L
Surname: Claydon
Sex: F
Age 19

Date: 2 February 1875
Month: 2
Year: 1875
Day: 2
Place
Port: Auckland
Place: Auckland, New Zealand
Country: New Zealand

Emigration Date
Year: 1874
Month: October
Date: 10 Oct 1874
Day: 10
Additional Fields

Occupation: Servant
Nationality: Middlesex

AG- Do you see any substance in the FindaGrave entry against both William and Emma suggesting "(m. 1877)"
Seems rather specific to the year, given that the other familial entries listed on Gravesite Details appear to be correct

I've now found Mark29438's tree on FamilySearch, as quoted previously by Alviegal.

I had thought that Fanny Louisa and Susan Mary, mentioned in Alviegal's post, were Holtoms - but according to Mark29438 they were Claydons.

He says Susan was born 1846 and died 1876, and Fanny born 1856, and that their parents were Joseph Claydon and Catherine Holloway.
No proof of anything. No places of birth or death.

Dare I say - I think it's a load of rubbish.

Fanny and Susan are not on the "Warwick" passenger list.

There is a birth of a Susannah Claydon, mmn Holloway in 1846 - in Northampton - but no Claydon/Holloway births of William 1852 or Fanny 1856.

He says Susan Maria died in 1876 - he's clearly latched onto William's wife Susan's death. I don't see any other 1876 death of a Susan Claydon in NZ.

I don't see the marriage of a Joseph Claydon and Catherine Holloway.

Thanks, Alviegal.
Interesting! Pity there's no proof!


HOLTON, FANNY mmn HOLLAWAY
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 512

Fanny (no middle name at birth, marriage, or death) married a William Tracey (possible relative of her sister Ellen's husband?) in 1896 in NZ and died in 1930. Buried in same cemetery as her husband, two children died in infancy, her mother Emma, another Fanny Tracey died 1929, and a Gladys Jean Cantell aged 5 (1921-26).
I think Gladys Jean was grand-daughter of Fanny - parents Gladys Tracey (1902) and Robert James Cantell.

Other siblings (I haven't bothered to check for possible others with mis-spellings. This is now just to satisfy the research craving, as the Holtom/Holloway children were only step-family of William Claydon):

Emma Eliza 1865; Mary Ann 1868; John 1873 - all registered in Warwick reg district.

John 1873 is also buried in Waikumete Cemetery (1940) , though in different grave from Fanny, Emma, etc.

I don't see Fanny Louisa or Susan Maria (or John, for that matter) on the Warwick passenger list.
As well as Wm and Susan Claydon, there are:

"Holtham: John 35, Emma 33".
No children listed with them.

William and Emma also had William Henry in 1878 and Ernest in 1881.

Familysearch has this information on it but there are no records apart from the births.


William Claydon
Male
Sources (5)
Memories (0)
Collaborate (0)
Birth: 1852
Death: 7 April 1885New Zealand

Immigration
1875New Zealand
To New Zealand
Reason This Information Is Correct:

Also arrived on the ship Warwick 21st January 1875 with 2 sisters Susan Maria & Fanny Louisa - William started relationship with Emma Holloway Holtom after her husband John died of typhoid
Last Changed: June 13, 2024

This was added on June 13th, 2024 by Mark29438

Nothing to do with William Claydon , whether mine or not - but for interest (yes, it's an addiction!):

Emma and John Holtom also had a son William in Lillington, Warks in 1863 (or maybe late 1862 - baptised 11 Jan 1863).

William (occupation : traveller) went to Massachusetts, USA, arriving there via London (previous residence Wellington, NZ) on 25 Aug 1895, and married Mary Butler of Coventry, England in Massachusetts on 31 Aug 1895.

In 1890 a William Holtom, a commercial traveller, was living in Auckland.

I've already been looking at that 1885 death, which seems to be the one below:

William Claydon
in the New Zealand, Civil Registration Death Index, 1840-1972
Name William Claydon
Age 33
Birth Date abt 1852
Death Date 1885
Death Place New Zealand
Registration Number 1978


William Claydon
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave® Index, 1800s-Current
Name William Claydon
Birth Date 1852
Death Date 7 Apr 1885
Death Place Auckland, New Zealand
Cemetery Symonds Street Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Auckland, Auckland Council, Auckland, New Zealand
Has Bio? Y
Spouse Emma Claydon
Children Annie Wigg


This is Emma's death:

Emma Claydon
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave® Index, 1800s-Current
Name Emma Claydon
Maiden Name Holloway
Birth Date 1843
Birth Place Allesley, Metropolitan Borough of Coventry, West Midlands, England
Death Date 3 Oct 1922
Death Place Auckland, New Zealand
Cemetery Waikumete Cemetery & Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place Glen Eden, Auckland Council, Auckland, New Zealand
Has Bio? N
Spouse William Claydon
Children
Ellen Tracey
Annie Wigg


Can't prove that's the right William, but seems a good possibility.


Can't see any marriage between William and Emma.

Emma Holloway
in the Warwickshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1910
Name Emma Holloway
Event Type Marriage
Marriage or Bann Date 10 Dec 1861
Marriage or Bann Place Lillington, Warwickshire, England
Parish Lillington
Spouse John Holtom
Father Joseph Holloway

John Holtom/Holton died in Auckland on 26 March 1875.

Daughter Ellen's birth:

HOLTON, ELLEN mmn HOLLOWAY
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 491

Ellen junior married John Tracey in NZ in 1888, had several children, and died in Auckland on 9 Oct 1946. (I won't post all the records.)


William and Ellen (senior)'s daughter Annie Claydon was born 1883 in NZ.
Married Albert George Wigg in NZ in 1907.
Died in Auckland 9 May 1952.
A tree on Ancestry has a photo of her.

William and Ellen must have got together some time between John Holtom's death in 1875 and Annie's birth in 1883.

But without a marriage cert, I can't prove he's "my" William .

A tree on Ancestry claims he's this William:

Births Mar 1852 (>99%)
Claydon William Solihull 6d 415

However, the tree's very muddled and full of mistakes.
Even though it says he died in 1885 in NZ, it also has him marrying another wife in London in 1900, and living in Croydon in 1911, aged only 41.

The death record above from FMP unfortunately has no location info, merely year of death (1885) and of birth based on age at death(33)

What a stroke of luck! So glad you've managed to break through this brick wall AG...I'm sure there's another one waiting for you somewhere :-D

Don't think William managed to survive for long either. May not be him though.
1885/1978 Claydon William 33
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz


Auckland Star
25 April 1885 DEATH NOTICE

EDIT Sorry ErikaH, just added this from paperspast. He died at The Hospital, no other info.

Many thanks for that, Greyghost!

Thomas and Richard, record also on Family Search

Richard age 20 and Thomas 22. Both Labourers.

Total cost of Passage Money to the Government £14 10s each

Name Thomas Claydon
Sex Male
Departure Date 25 September 1874
Departure Place Canterbury
Occupation Labourer
Nationality Oxfordshire
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1874
Event Place

Canterbury, Canterbury, New Zealand
Record Number 387

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Name Richd Claydon
Sex Male
Departure Date 25 September 1874
Departure Place Canterbury
Occupation Labourer
Nationality Oxfordshire
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1874
Event Place

Canterbury, Canterbury, New Zealand
Record Number 386

From Family Search
Collection - New Zealand, Archives New Zealand, Passenger Lists, 1839-1973

An assisted Emigration to Auckland costing the Government £29 for them both

Name William Claydon
Sex Male
Departure Date 10 October 1874
Occupation Farm Laborer
Nationality Oxon
Event Type Immigration
Event Date 1875
Event Place

Canterbury, Canterbury, New Zealand
Record Number 131

Age 23 - with Susan 29

:-D :-D :-D

Update:
I've just discovered, on Papers Past website, that William and Susan went to New Zealand.

Arrival of the Warwick.
Auckland Star, Volume VI, Issue 1543, 22 January 1875, Page 2

"The fine iron clippership Warwick " left London on 11 October 1874, and arrived in Auckland on 22 Jan 1875.
Among the long list of names of passengers are:
"Claydon: Wm 23, Susan 29."

No travel record on Ancestry.

I had known that trees on Ancestry claim that William's younger brothers Thomas (1853) and Richard (1855) went to NZ on the "Crusader" , arriving 31/12/1874 - without proof, and there's also no travel record on Ancestry - but I hadn't found anything for William until now.

Susan's death, sadly only about a year after arrival:

Susan Anne Maria Claydon
in the New Zealand, Death Index, 1848-1966
Name Susan Anne Maria Claydon
Death Date 1876 Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Place Bay of Islands, Auckland, New Zealand
Folio Number 1156


I was looking for proof of Thomas and Richard's arrival in NZ when I found William and Susan by chance.
There are reports of the arrival of the "Crusader" on 31/12 /1874, but no list of passengers, as far as I can see.

NZ newspapers have lots of items about the later lives of Thomas and Richard.

Richard's obituary, in 1932, says "Mr Claydon came out to New Zealand when 19 years of age by the sailing vessel Crusader."

Looks like another brick wall - ah, well!

He's in several Ancestry trees. None have any record of him after 1871 - apart from the ones which have confused him with the other William Claydon who died in Cuddesdon in 1920.