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A fascinating tale.

:-)

First name(s) Robert Percy
County Hampshire
Last name Stephenson
Country England
Death year 1947
Linked persons William Percy Webb
Death date 04 Apr 1947
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Probate year 1947
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Probate date 26 Sep 1947
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Probate registry London
Collections from Great Britain, England
Residence town Hayling Island

MARRIAGE AT HUMBERSTONE

Mr Frank R Stephenson married Ethel Mary Andrew in June 1904.

Lots of Stephensons and Riggalls at the wedding including Mr and Mrs Percy R Stephenson from London, who gave a pewter tray to the happy couple.

Grimsby News 24 June 1904

He was Secretary of the Council of the Thames Preservation League

Various papers in Nov 1900.


A paragraph from a letter in the local paper informing readers of the object of the League.

" The league is an organisation composed of representatives of a number of Open Space, Right of Way, Natural History, Aesthetic and Historical Societies, together with various rowing, swimming and fishing clubs, delegates from riparian towns, and members of the public interested in matters affecting the River Thames and it's borders."

They wanted to preserve everything about the river and it's surroundings from bridges and buildings to flora and fauna, from pathways and towpaths to ferries and landings.
They wanted to educate people on how to enjoy the river without harming it and teach ' a certain class of the community' to respect both public and private rights.

Maidenhead Advertiser 19 Sept 1900.

MANY HAPPY RETURNS OF THE DAY

July 29: Cllr R Percy Stephenson.

South London Observer 26 July 1913.

he was elected to the Camberwell Borough Council in 1912.

My husband is a keen fisherman and off to the AGM later today for the oldest fly fishing club in the UK! Perhaps they can throw some light on this .............. :-D

On the GRO site…births

Freebmd…..marriage.

Thank you as always ErikaH.

Re the GRO site tip: I have used Ancestry/FMP/LDS sites in the past to ascertain any GRO details for individuals so that I can, if required, order a B/M/D certificate.

Where were the marriage/sons' birth details actually found, please?

:-)

His obituary states he was a keen fisherman...........................

Or maybe the Thames Conservancy, aka Conservators of the River Thames, founded in 1857 ???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_Conservancy

Just a suggestion!

Re Thames Preservation Society -

You're right, there's nothing about it online.

Just a suggestion - maybe the enumerator got the name wrong?

There was a Thames Angling Preservation Society, started in 1838 at Hampton, and still going in the 1930s.

https://www.anglingheritage.org/p-27165-thames-angling-preservation-society.aspx
https://www.anglebooks.com/thames-angling-preservation-society-blue-book-1937.html


Hampton is also notable as being the place where the Thames Angling Preservation Society, to whose efforts and expenditure Thames anglers are indebted for the preservation of the fishery in the river up to Staines, was established at a meeting held at the Bell Inn on 17 March, 1838-more than seventy years ago. (fn. 21) The promoters of the movement were Mr. Henry Perkins of Hanworth Park, Mr. C. C. Clarke, and Mr. Edward Jesse of Twickenham, Dr. Henry Jepson and Mr. Richard Kerry of Hampton, Mr. W. Whitbread of Eaton Square, and Mr. David Crole of Strawberry Hill. Originally formed for the protection of fish from poachers-with respect to which an application was in the first instance made to the then Lord Mayor (Sir John Cowan, bart.), who was at that time one of the Thames conservators (fn. 22) -the society eventually extended its operations to restocking the river, and has thus provided thousands of anglers with twenty miles of free water, which furnishes perhaps the finest coarse fishing in England. Among the consignments of fish placed in the river during 1905 were 300 trout, from 10 to 14 in. at Weybridge; 1 ton of roach, dace, bream, and perch about and below Sunbury Lock; 12 cwt. of roach, perch, chub and bream at Chertsey; and about 1 dozen bream, averaging 2½ lb., with a few chub, perch and roach at Walton. Among the patrons of the society may be mentioned the late King Edward and his Majesty King George. The Hon. Harry Lawson, M.A., is the president and Mr. Henry Whitmore Higgins the hon. secretary and hon. treasurer.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/middx/vol2/pp267-270

SHAND is the MMN…………

Make yourself familiar with the GRO site……..it’s invaluable

The marriage has been posted for you……as have ALL the sons’ birth registrations

Please go through all the info on both pages very carefully……

In 1911 she said she was married……….it’s 1921 where she was ‘widowed’ and had knocked a few years off her age. She was actually born in 1877 as per birth and baptism records found for you

Thank you so much to everyone.

Dorothie is my stepfather's [John Noel Tracy Stephenson] mother. He figures as the youngest of the three boys as above.

By 1911, Dorothie is a widow and this would seem to be the case since I knew the sons so well. Although the theory above that he abandoned them and is indeed the Robert Pery Stephenson in the 1911 [married but states 'no children'] could be true and poor Dorothie has had to save face by stating that she is a widow. Wonder how she brought up the children with no funds, all of whom did very well for themselves .............. ?? This Robert still states that he is married in the 1939 register.

I'm puzzled by Erika's post at 10.23 with the GRO entries showing 'SHAND' as a ??surname?? included in their surname of Stephenson. Ancestry shows only their Stephenson surname. Perhaps I need to order the BC for my stepfather ............

There is no MMN on the GRO for the birth of the three sons at that time. I wish! - it would make this puzzle easier to solve.

It is a puzzle why their marriage is so elusive.

In the 1911 census, widowed Dorothie states her middle name as BYAM and in fact son Robert bears this as his middle name, too.

I wonder whether she was a nee BYAM?? She died in the mid 1950's.

Thank you for the THAMES Preservation Society! Wonder what that was? Nothing on the internet.

UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
Name William Byam Poulter
Estimated Age 20
Birth Date 1902
Birth Place Ealing
Issue Date 14 Jul 1922
Issue Port London
Certificate Number 0015809

Name William Byam Poulter
Marital Status Single
Marriage Age 29
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1902
Marriage Date 7 Dec 1931
Marriage Place Westhampnett, Sussex, England
Father William Poulter
Spouse Joan Kimbell
Father David Kimbell

Name William Byam Poulter
Death Date 23 Aug 1994
Death Place Worth Matravers Swanage
Probate Date 19 Sep 1994
Probate Registry Winchester

Name Mr William Byan Poulter
Arrival Age 21
Birth Date abt 1903
Port of Departure Africa
Arrival Date 23 Jun 1924
Port of Arrival Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage Lagos; Sekondi; Sierra Leone; Freetown; Teneriffe; Accra; Plymouth, Devon, England
Ship Name Appam
Shipping Line Elder Dempster Lines Ltd
Official Number 135422


1939 Register
Name William B Poulter
Gender Male
Marital Status Divorced***************************
Birth Date 5 Jul 1902
Residence Date 1939
Address 7
Residence Place Kingston-Upon-Thames, Surrey, England
Occupation Superintendant Eleck Supply
Line Number 22
Schedule Number 74
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Cmsi
Borough Kingston-Upon-Thames
Registration district 30-1


Marriages Jun 1938 (>99%)

Bennett Leslie C Poulter Westminster 1a 1469
Bennett Leslie C Kimbell Westminster 1a 1469
Kimbell Joan Bennett Westminster 1a 1469
Poulter Joan Bennett Westminster 1a 1469

Name Joan Bennett
Death Date 19 Apr 1977
Death Place Aldwick Bognor Regis
Probate Date 8 Jun 1977
Probate Registry Brighton

WING COMMANDER
LESLIE CLIVE BENNETT
Service Number: 16216
Regiment & Unit/Ship
Royal Air Force 21 Sqdn
Died 09 July 1940
Age 34
Buried or commemorated at
LONSTRUP CHURCHYARD
From entrance, right of church, last row.
Denmark
Additional Info
Son of Frederick H. and Gertrude Bennett; husband of Joan Bennett, of Chichester, Sussex. Native of New Zealand.

Deaths Mar 1974 (>99%)
Poulter Esme Mildred B 16AP1881 Surrey N 5g 360

Name Esme Mildred Byam Poulter
Death Date 7 Feb 1974
Death Place Addlestone Sy
Probate Date 27 Mar 1974
Probate Registry Winchester

Name Esme Poulter (and husband)
Gender Female
Departure Age 46
Birth Date abt 1882
Departure Date 13 Jan 1928
Departure Port England
Ship Name Herefordshire
Shipping Line Bibby Line
Destination Port Port Said, Egypt
Master R Manor

POULTER, WILLIAM BYAM SHAND
GRO Reference: 1902 S Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 122

POULTER, HEATHCOTE BYAM SHAND
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in BRENTFORD Volume 03A Page 133


1911 Census For England & Wales
1 Cambrian Road Richmond Surrey, Richmond, Surrey, England
William Poulter Head Married Male 31 1880 Manufacturer upholstery Middlesex Marylebone
Esme Poulter Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Surrey Croydon
William Poulter Son - Male 8 1903 - Middlesex Ealing
Heathcote Poulter Son - Male 5 1906 - Middlesex Ealing
Eliza Garrett Servant Married Female 74 1837 Nurse domestic S Wamborough Hants
Edith Walker Servant - Female 21 1890 General servant domestic Kentish Town Middlesex


1921 census
First name(s) Heathcote
Institution description Foundation Boarding House, St Bees
Last name Poulter
Parish St Bees
Sex Male
Registration district Whitehaven
Birth year 1905
Registration district number 577
Census date 19 June 1921
Sub-district Egremont
Age in years 16

Poulter
Heathcote
1906
1924
Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Lisbon, Portugal

Name Heathcote Byam Poulter
Gender Male
Marriage Age 29
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1905
Marriage Date 9 Jun 1934
Marriage Place All Souls, Langham Place: Langham Place, Regent Street, Westminster
Father William Poulter
Spouse Cassandra Eileen Wynne Nichols
Father Charles William Nichols

Deaths Dec 1980 (>99%)
POULTER HEATHCOTE BYAN 21MY1905 SURREY N W 17 556

1939 Register
Stone East Beach, East Beach, Selsey, Chichester R.D., Sussex, England
Louise C Nichols 08 Apr 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 196 1
Cassandra Poulter 01 Feb 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 196 2
Phyllis O'Neill (Nichols) 01 Dec 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 196 3
L H Stephine 27 Aug 1891 Female Nurse Single 196 4
Margaret Looney (Bowe,Bonel) 10 Dec 1910 Female Cook Single 196 5
The record for this person is officially closed.
Heatherle Poulter 21 May 1905 Male Secretary Married 196 7
The record for this person is officially closed.

POULTER, CASSANDRA EILEEN 1910
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2008 in CORNWALL (3711A) Reg 1A006 Entry Number 118

Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
HOTTEN John William Pancras 1b 202
Stringer Charlotte Pancras 1b 202

Name Jessie Maria Hotten
Gender Female
Record Type Baptism
Baptism Date 8 Nov 1867
Baptism Place Holloway, Islington, England
Father John William Hotten
Mother Charlottee Hotten


Name Jessie Maria Shand, widow
Death Date 1 Mar 1948
Death Place Suffolk, England
Probate Date 9 Jun 1948
Probate Registry London, England
Probate to Bank

SELBY, GERTRUDE JESSIE STRAND HOTTEN
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in HAMPSTEAD Volume 01A Page 643

In your shoes, I'd have to see the birth cert............ ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

1939 Register
Ellerslie Taleham Road, Shepperton, Sunbury-On-Thames U.D., Middlesex, England
Jessie M Shard 06 Jan 1859 Female - Widowed 298 1
William Poulter 30 Nov 1879 Male - Married 298 2
?onie M B Poulter 16 Apr 1881 Female - Married 298 3


Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
Poulter William Pancras 1b 199
Shand Esme Mildred B Pancras 1b 199