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DorothyG

DorothyG Report 21 Jan 2024 13:10

Can anyone help please

I’m trying to find a marriage for
Alec Campbell
Son of John Gray and Agnes (nee) Campbell - with Fleming as her middle name

Alec DOB - 1920/21 probably Kilmarnock - just maybe Rutherglen

He had 2 brothers Thomas and John - and later, when John Gray died - and Agnes remarried - a sister Louisa.

When did Alec marry - to whom, and what children they had.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 13:51

Look for info on Scotlands people website

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-our-records

Have you any reason to think the man married anyone?

When/where did he die?

How can he be son of GRAY if his surname is Campbell?

When do you think Agnes married Gray? And who was her second husband?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 13:59

Can see only one Agnes Fleming Campbell birth before 1929.......impossible for this one to be having a child in 1920/21

CAMPBELL
AGNES FLEMING
FLEMING
F
1865
469 / 1
AIRTH

CAMPBELL
AGNES FLEMING
82
F
1947
644 / 19 / 474
CATHCART (GLASGOW)

PETRIE
AGNES FLEMING
82
F
1947
644 / 19 / 474
CATHCART (GLASGOW)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 14:00

????????Marriage ???????????
CAMPBELL
AGNES F
GRAY
JOHN
1918
644 / 10 / 970
BLYTHSWOOD

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Jan 2024 14:20

from a tree on ancestry


Alexander Campbell Gray
1920–1981

Birth 10 JUN 1920 • Blantyre, Lanark, Scotland

Death 1 JUL 1981 • Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland

Birth of brother John Gray(1921–1987)
1921 • Blantyre, Lanarkshire, Scotland

19243
Death of father John Gray(1898–1924)
13 April 1924 • Dalziel, Lanarkshire, Scotland

19288
Birth of half-sister Louise Agnes Murphy(1928–2017)
26 June 1928 • Kilmarnoch Ayr Scotland

193919
Military
1939 • Padgate, Lancashire, England

Alexander Campbell Gray enlisted to the RAF between 1939 and Feb 1940.RAF

193919
Military Serial Number
1939 • Padgate, Lancashire, England

Service No 1108489

195131
Arrival
5 Nov 1951 • Liverpool, England

Trip home from West coast of Africa

195433
Arrival
24 May 1954 • Liverpool, England

Employment Gold coast Ghana

195434
Departure
1 Jul 1954 • Liverpool, England
Departure
Lagos
Departure
Calabar, Nigeria

195535
Arrival
18 Jun 1955 • London, England

196343
Marriage
26/10/1963 • Ayrshire, Scotland

Mill Manager

198161
Death
1 Jul 1981 • Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland

parents

John Gray


1898–1924
AGNES FLEMING CAMPBELL

1896–1993



no spouse recorded

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 14:24

Thanks Maddie..............it helps to have accurate info about name!!


GRAY
ALEXANDER CAMPB
M
1920
624 / 370
BLANTYRE

GRAY
ALEXANDER CAMPB
61
CAMPBELL
M
1981
666 / 428
KILMARNOCK

Buy a copy of the death cert for details of informant

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 14:31

CAMPBELL
AGNES FLEMING
97
RIGBY
F
1993
666 / 874
KILMARNOCK

GRAY
AGNES FLEMING
97
RIGBY
F
1993
666 / 874
KILMARNOCK

MURPHY
AGNES FLEMING
97
RIGBY
F
1993
666 / 874
KILMARNOCK

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 14:39

CAMPBELL
ALEXANDER
RIGBY
LOUISA
1894
654 / 45
RUTHERGLEN

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 14:43

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Millar Terrace, 19, Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland
James Rigby Head Married Male 50 1841 Plasterer Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Mary Rigby Wife Married Female 55 1836 - Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Christina S Rigby Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1868 Tobacco roller Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Louisa Rigby Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1872 Tobacco spinner Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
John K Rigby Son Unmarried Male 17 1874 Grocer Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
James Rigby Son - Male 14 1877 Clerk Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Georgina G Rigby Daughter - Female 12 1879 Scholar Rutherglen, Lanarkshire, Scotland

DorothyG

DorothyG Report 21 Jan 2024 14:56

Thank you Erika and Maddie very much for your help.

Maddie has all the correct details which match other research I’ve done - Blantyre would fit in for his birth - I only knew the family had lived in Kilmarnock for some time but there are other close relations in Blantyre, so that’s logical.

Thanks Maddie for confirming he had married…. Odd that his wife’s name is not listed….? Many years ago I made contact with one of his daughters through another site - sadly I’ve lost that connection now, otherwise I could ask her for more details. At that time she’d said her father had died, but didn’t say when. And the family lived in the Kilmarnock area.
I had let the research drop there - but now have reason to learn his children’s names.

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Jan 2024 15:07

sorry but i didn't say he had married only that no spouse was recorded, not much help i know

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 15:08

Marriages Sep 1955 (>99%)
GRAY Alexander C WINCH Folkestone 5b 1343
Find name yourself on freebmd

Divorced 1963

22/06/1963 • EDINBURGHSHIRE SCOTLAND
Court of Session announced decree of divorce dissolving the marriage of Alexander Campbell Gray and ******


Re-married in 1963...look for the record yourself on SP as per link above

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 15:23

MMN is not on modern Scottish births on SP.

DorothyG

DorothyG Report 21 Jan 2024 16:06

Maddie - ooh bit confused …
So are you saying ….

196343
Marriage
26/10/1963 • Ayrshire, Scotland

Is not his marriage?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 16:18

No, Maddie is not saying anything about marriages

Read my posts, please

Look at SP yourself ;-) ;-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Jan 2024 16:45

All marriages of men named Alexander Campbell Gray in Scotland 1937-80.

I imagine the one in Kilmarnock may be the one mentioned on the tree quoted by Maddie, but you would have to buy a copy of the cert to make sure.
Order on Scotlands People website - free to register and search; £12 for the cert.

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk



GRAY ALEXANDER CAMPB
BROWNLIE MARY BENNIE
1941
644 / 15 / 143
Gorbals

GRAY ALEXANDER CAMPB
CUTHILL AUDREY SHARP
1963
673 / 1 / 29
Whitburn


GRAY ALEXANDER CAMPB
MELROSE CATHERINE ANDER[son]
1957
685 / 6 / 188
Newington


GRAY ALEXANDER CAMPB
ATHERTON JANET
1963
597 / 331
Kilmarnock (Ayr)



GRAY ALEXANDER CAMPB
JAFFRAY CHARLOTTE [ also listed as Charlotte Lovie ]
1943
227 / B / 8
New Pitsligo



If Janet Atherton was his wife, she doesn't seem to have died in Scotland


There is no wife with him on any of his trips to Lagos.

DorothyG

DorothyG Report 21 Jan 2024 17:04

ArgyllGran

Thank you :)
yes the Kilmarnock one seems likely!
So I’ll order the Cert - and hopefully move on from there.

DorothyG

DorothyG Report 21 Jan 2024 17:30

Gggrrr - I’ve tried and tried to Register on SP - can only get as far as entering a password, but the page then won’t move up to complete the registration ….?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Jan 2024 17:50

You stated in your post at 14.56 that you had contacted one of the man’s daughters……..not sure, therefore, why you are asking if he had any children :-0 :-0

DorothyG

DorothyG Report 21 Jan 2024 19:02

Erika - yes one of his daughters replied to a research question, and inferred there were only daughters - but someone who says he’s a son has made contact - so just wanted to check that out as she made no mention of him.