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23 Dec 2023 23:13 |
Wow!!! thank you so much Shirley for all this extra info, I never would never have found this without your help. Very much appreciated. :-)
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9 Dec 2023 16:10 |
Deaths 1987 SHUTTLEWORTH MAUD 13JY1912 TAMESIDE 39 1387
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9 Dec 2023 16:07 |
1939 Register 41 Baguley Street, Droylsden, Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England
Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number Robert Shuttleworth 07 Oct 1905 Male General Labourer Married 17 1 Maud Shuttleworth 08 Jul 1912 Female Domestic Duties Married 17 2 Thomas Shuttleworth 09 Mar 1934 Male At School Single 17 3 The record for this person is officially closed.
Probably a big family
Births Dec 1932 (>99%) Shuttleworth Robert Hardy Manchester North 8d 518
Births Mar 1934 (>99%) Shuttleworth Thomas Hardy Manchester N. 8d 581
Births Sep 1936 (>99%) SHUTTLEWORTH Barbara Hardy Manchester N. 8d 770
Births Dec 1937 (>99%) Shuttleworth Edward Hardy Manchester N. 8d 575
Births Jun 1939 (>99%) Shuttleworth Maud Hardy Manchester 8d 466
Births Mar 1943 (>99%) Shuttleworth David Hardy Manchester 8d 548
Births Jun 1944 (>99%) Shuttleworth Robert Hardy Manchester 8d 659
Births Dec 1945 (>99%) Shuttleworth Mary Hardy Manchester 8d 592
Births Mar 1949 (>99%) SHUTTLEWORTH Ann HARDY Manchester 10e 607
Births Jun 1951 (>99%) SHUTTLEWORTH Allan HARDY Manchester 10e 574
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9 Dec 2023 16:03 |
Marriages Dec 1931 Hardy Maud M Shuttleworth Manchester N. 8d 1003 Shuttleworth Robert Hardy Manchester N. 8d 1003
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9 Dec 2023 15:51 |
Took a look at the digital image for maud and it’ is the right maud !
Thomas Hardy registered the birth and states mum was Lilian nee stansfield
His occ matches as a engine fitter
Was born. 13th July 1912 at 125 red bank reg 4ty sept 1912
So why he gave Lilian as stansfield is ?
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9 Dec 2023 13:23 |
Addendum
Thomas was 45 on date of attestation Previously served with Manchester Artillery
Birth year 1869 Series WO 363 Age 45 Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents' Year 1914 Archive The National Archives Service number 71 Record set British Army Service Records Regiment Manchester Regiment Category Military, armed forces & conflict Unit / Battalion 6th Battalion Subcategory First World War Residence town Manchester Collections from Great Britain, UK
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9 Dec 2023 13:23 |
Thomas Hardy in the 1891 England Census Name Thomas Hardy Gender Male Age 25 Relationship Head Birth Year 1866 Spouse Matilda Hardy Child Annie Hardy Thomas Hardy Matilda Hardy Robert Hardy Birth Place Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish Great Bolton Ecclesiastical parish Holy Trinity Residence Place Great Bolton, Great Bolton, Lancashire, England Registration district Bolton Sub registration district Great Bolton ED, Institution or Vessel 9 Neighbors Piece 3120 Folio 67 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Thomas Hardy 25 Head Matilda Hardy 24 Wife Annie Hardy 6 Daughter Thomas Hardy 4 Daughter Matilda Hardy 2 Daughter Robert Hardy 2/12 Son
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9 Dec 2023 13:21 |
Thomas and first wife in 1901;
Thomas Hardy in the 1901 England Census Name Thomas Hardy Age 35 Estimated Birth Year abt 1866 Relation to Head Head Gender Male Spouse Matilda Hardy Birth Place Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil parish South Manchester Search Photos View blank form Ecclesiastical parish Ardwick St Silas County/Island Lancashire Country England Registration district Chorlton Sub-registration district Ardwick ED, institution, or vessel 028 Neighbors Piece 3677 Folio 149 Page number 43 Household schedule number 318 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Thomas Hardy 35 Head Matilda Hardy 34 Wife Annie Hardy 16 Daughter Thomas Hardy 14 Son Matilda Hardy 12 Daughter Jane Hardy 7 Daughter Robert Hardy 5 Son Alexander Hardy 3 Son John Hardy 1 Son
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9 Dec 2023 13:12 |
Re Thomas Hardy Rank Private Death Date 25 Jan 1919 Service Number 18062 306 Protect Coy, Royal Defence Corps
Territorial Attestation - 14th Sept 1914- 6th Battalion, Manchester Regt Discharged - 10th Sept 1917- amblyopia- defective vision
Address: 10 Gordon Street, Shudehill, Manchester
Names of Children
Charlotte 28/03/03 Maude 20/12/11 John 18/11/14 Thomas-Matilda Jane- Robert Lilian -18/02/17 George- 06/03/04
NOK - Wife Lilian Hardy 3 Wednesday (illeg) Oldham Road Manchester
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9 Dec 2023 12:53 |
Hi Shirley, thank you so very, very much for all your help this morning. That is all very helpful, I have been searching for a long time. :-)
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9 Dec 2023 12:46 |
This looks like them on the 1911 census Thomas Hardy in 1911 1911 Census For England & Wales Broughton Salford, Broughton, Lancashire, England
Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Thomas Hardy Head Married Male 45 1866 Engineers fitter Manchester Lancashire Lillian Hardy Wife Married Female 32 1879 Domestic duties Manchester Lancashire Alexander Hardy Son - Male 13 1898 School Manchester Lancashire Charlotte Hardy Daughter - Female 7 1904 School Manchester Lancashire George Hardy Son - Male 5 1906 School Manchester Lancashire
Married 2 years. 2 children born none alive
The otherchildren are mmn walker
Mothers death
HARDY, MATILDA 42 GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 242
Doest look like there was a marriage though
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9 Dec 2023 12:44 |
Maud Hardy in the Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 Name Maud Hardy Age 0 Birth Date 20 Jul 1912 Baptism Date 7 Aug 1912 Baptism Place Manchester, St Thomas, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears Manchester, St Thomas Father Thomas Hardy Mother Lilian Hardy Reference Number GB127.M330/3/1/2
But this is the only birth reg on either GRO or FreeBMD which would fit that DOB:
HARDY, MAUD mmn STANSFIELD GRO Reference: 1912 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 424
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9 Dec 2023 12:27 |
Sadly looks like young Lilian died young
Lilian County Lancashire Last name Hardy Volume 8D Sex Female Page 450 Birth year 1917 Country England Age 3 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Death quarter 1 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death year 1920 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials District Prestwich Collections from Great Britain, England
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9 Dec 2023 12:01 |
Def right family
Surname spelling slightly different
Births Dec 1921 Pittfield Charles H O'Brien Prestwich 8d 649
Name Charles Pitfield Death Age 68 Birth Date 22 Sep 1921 Registration Date Nov 1989 Registration district Oldham Inferred County Greater Manchester Volume 39 Page 102
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9 Dec 2023 11:48 |
Possibly death
Deaths Jun 1934 Pitfield Charles H 79 Manchester N. 8d 552
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9 Dec 2023 11:11 |
That's interesting, thank you so much Shirley.
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9 Dec 2023 11:08 |
Father Thomas hardy private 6th battalion Manchester regiment (engineers fitter ) Mother Liliy O’Brien
Name Thomas Hardy Gender Male Rank Private Record Type Military Death Date 25 Jan 1919 Service Number 18062 Corps, Regiment or Unit Royal Defence Corps Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers Description Other Ranks Died Hardy I-Hargreaves R Next of Kin (Name) Relation to Soldier Thomas Hardy Lilian Hardy
Name Lilian Hardy Gender Female Residence Place Manchester. Relation to Soldier Widow Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers Description Other Ranks Died Hardy I-Hargreaves R Next of Kin (Name) Relation to
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Deaths Mar 1919 Hardy Thomas 53 Prestwich 8d 659
.? 1921 census 43, Princess Street, Miles Platting, North Manchester, Lancashire, England
Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer Charles Pitfield Head Male 1857 64 Manchester, Lancashire, England Carter (Horse) (Cotton Manufacturer) William Hollins Cotton Manufacturer Lilly Pitfield Wife Female 1881 39 Manchester, Lancashire, England Home Duties - Maude Hardy Step-daughter Female 1913 7 Manchester, Lancashire, England - -father dead John Hardy Step-son Male 1915 6 Manchester, Lancashire, England - - Father dead
Marriage Marriages Sep 1920 Hardy Lillian Pitfield Prestwich 8d 1044 Pitfield Charles Hardy Prestwich 8d 1044
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9 Dec 2023 10:49 |
Twin brothers
HARDY, HARRY O'BRIEN GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 212 HARDY, JACK O'BRIEN GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 212
Sadly looks like both died
HARDY, HARRY 0 GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 42
HARDY, JACK 0 GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 43
Not seeing a marriage but with Lilian surname and husbands in army it could have been in Ireland
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9 Dec 2023 10:34 |
Just because it came up
First name(s) John Avro County Cheshire Last name Hardy Volume 10A Sex Male Page 749 Birth day 18 Country England Birth month 11 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Birth year 1914 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 3 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1970 Collections from Great Britain, England District Hyde
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9 Dec 2023 07:54 |
Thank you for your help.
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