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Hi, Please could anyone help with this one, I am trying to find the Father of John A Hardy born 18/11/1914 possibly Manchester, married to Ellen McDermott on the 10/09/1911, Chorlton. Any help much appreciated, thank you.

is this not the marriage - 1936? If known, his Father's name should be on the certificate

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1936 (>99%)

Hardy John A McDermott Manchester N. 8d 1622
McDermott Ellen Hardy Manchester N. 8d 1622

The only birth reg. of a John A Hardy in the right time frame in England/Wales - 6 weeks allowed to register a birth. The birth cert. should give his parents full names

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1915 (>99%)
Hardy John A O'Brien Manchester 8d 454

and from https://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference Add to Summary
HARDY John Avro O'BRIEN 1915 Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/302/86

Thank you for your help.

Just because it came up

First name(s) John Avro
County Cheshire
Last name Hardy
Volume 10A
Sex Male
Page 749
Birth day 18
Country England
Birth month 11
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Birth year 1914
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 3
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1970
Collections from Great Britain, England
District Hyde

Twin brothers

HARDY, HARRY O'BRIEN
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 212
HARDY, JACK O'BRIEN
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 212


Sadly looks like both died

HARDY, HARRY 0
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 42

HARDY, JACK 0
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 43


Not seeing a marriage but with Lilian surname and husbands in army it could have been in Ireland

Father Thomas hardy private 6th battalion Manchester regiment (engineers fitter )
Mother Liliy O’Brien

Name Thomas Hardy
Gender Male
Rank Private
Record Type Military
Death Date 25 Jan 1919
Service Number 18062
Corps, Regiment or Unit Royal Defence Corps
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description Other Ranks Died Hardy I-Hargreaves R
Next of Kin (Name) Relation to Soldier
Thomas Hardy
Lilian Hardy

Name Lilian Hardy
Gender Female
Residence Place Manchester.
Relation to Soldier Widow
Title WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description Other Ranks Died Hardy I-Hargreaves R
Next of Kin (Name) Relation to

Needs Fold 3 to view

Deaths Mar 1919
Hardy Thomas 53 Prestwich 8d 659


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1921 census
43, Princess Street, Miles Platting, North Manchester, Lancashire, England

Household members (4 people)

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Charles Pitfield Head Male 1857 64 Manchester, Lancashire, England Carter (Horse) (Cotton Manufacturer) William Hollins Cotton Manufacturer
Lilly Pitfield Wife Female 1881 39 Manchester, Lancashire, England Home Duties -
Maude Hardy Step-daughter Female 1913 7 Manchester, Lancashire, England - -father dead
John Hardy Step-son Male 1915 6 Manchester, Lancashire, England - -
Father dead

Marriage
Marriages Sep 1920
Hardy Lillian Pitfield Prestwich 8d 1044
Pitfield Charles Hardy Prestwich 8d 1044

That's interesting, thank you so much Shirley.

Possibly death

Deaths Jun 1934
Pitfield Charles H 79 Manchester N. 8d 552

Def right family

Surname spelling slightly different

Births Dec 1921
Pittfield Charles H O'Brien Prestwich 8d 649

Name Charles Pitfield
Death Age 68
Birth Date 22 Sep 1921
Registration Date Nov 1989
Registration district Oldham
Inferred County Greater Manchester
Volume 39
Page 102

Sadly looks like young Lilian died young

Lilian
County Lancashire
Last name Hardy
Volume 8D
Sex Female
Page 450
Birth year 1917
Country England
Age 3
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Death quarter 1
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death year 1920
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
District Prestwich
Collections from Great Britain, England

Maud Hardy
in the Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
Name Maud Hardy
Age 0
Birth Date 20 Jul 1912
Baptism Date 7 Aug 1912
Baptism Place Manchester, St Thomas, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears Manchester, St Thomas
Father Thomas Hardy
Mother Lilian Hardy
Reference Number GB127.M330/3/1/2


But this is the only birth reg on either GRO or FreeBMD which would fit that DOB:

HARDY, MAUD mmn STANSFIELD
GRO Reference: 1912 S Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 424

This looks like them on the 1911 census
Thomas Hardy in 1911
1911 Census For England & Wales
Broughton Salford, Broughton, Lancashire, England

Household members (5 people)

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Hardy Head Married Male 45 1866 Engineers fitter Manchester Lancashire
Lillian Hardy Wife Married Female 32 1879 Domestic duties Manchester Lancashire
Alexander Hardy Son - Male 13 1898 School Manchester Lancashire
Charlotte Hardy Daughter - Female 7 1904 School Manchester Lancashire
George Hardy Son - Male 5 1906 School Manchester Lancashire


Married 2 years. 2 children born none alive

The otherchildren are mmn walker

Mothers death

HARDY, MATILDA 42
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in PRESTWICH Volume 08D Page 242


Doest look like there was a marriage though

Hi Shirley, thank you so very, very much for all your help this morning. That is all very helpful, I have been searching for a long time. :-)

Re Thomas Hardy
Rank Private
Death Date 25 Jan 1919
Service Number 18062
306 Protect Coy, Royal Defence Corps

Territorial Attestation - 14th Sept 1914- 6th Battalion, Manchester Regt
Discharged - 10th Sept 1917- amblyopia- defective vision

Address: 10 Gordon Street, Shudehill, Manchester

Names of Children

Charlotte 28/03/03
Maude 20/12/11
John 18/11/14
Thomas-Matilda
Jane- Robert
Lilian -18/02/17
George- 06/03/04

NOK - Wife
Lilian Hardy
3 Wednesday (illeg)
Oldham Road
Manchester

Thomas and first wife in 1901;

Thomas Hardy
in the 1901 England Census
Name Thomas Hardy
Age 35
Estimated Birth Year abt 1866
Relation to Head Head
Gender Male
Spouse Matilda Hardy
Birth Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish South Manchester
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Ecclesiastical parish Ardwick St Silas
County/Island Lancashire
Country England
Registration district Chorlton
Sub-registration district Ardwick
ED, institution, or vessel 028
Neighbors
Piece 3677
Folio 149
Page number 43
Household schedule number 318
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas Hardy 35 Head
Matilda Hardy 34 Wife
Annie Hardy 16 Daughter
Thomas Hardy 14 Son
Matilda Hardy 12 Daughter
Jane Hardy 7 Daughter
Robert Hardy 5 Son
Alexander Hardy 3 Son
John Hardy 1 Son

Thomas Hardy
in the 1891 England Census
Name Thomas Hardy
Gender Male
Age 25
Relationship Head
Birth Year 1866
Spouse
Matilda Hardy
Child
Annie Hardy
Thomas Hardy
Matilda Hardy
Robert Hardy
Birth Place Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Great Bolton
Ecclesiastical parish Holy Trinity
Residence Place Great Bolton, Great Bolton, Lancashire, England
Registration district Bolton
Sub registration district Great Bolton
ED, Institution or Vessel 9
Neighbors
Piece 3120
Folio 67
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas Hardy 25 Head
Matilda Hardy 24 Wife
Annie Hardy 6 Daughter
Thomas Hardy 4 Daughter
Matilda Hardy 2 Daughter
Robert Hardy 2/12 Son

Addendum

Thomas was 45 on date of attestation
Previously served with Manchester Artillery

Birth year 1869
Series WO 363
Age 45
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Year 1914
Archive The National Archives
Service number 71
Record set British Army Service Records
Regiment Manchester Regiment
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Unit / Battalion 6th Battalion
Subcategory First World War
Residence town Manchester
Collections from Great Britain, UK

Took a look at the digital image for maud and it’ is the right maud !

Thomas Hardy registered the birth and states mum was Lilian nee stansfield

His occ matches as a engine fitter

Was born. 13th July 1912 at 125 red bank reg 4ty sept 1912

So why he gave Lilian as stansfield is ?

Marriages Dec 1931
Hardy Maud M Shuttleworth Manchester N. 8d 1003
Shuttleworth Robert Hardy Manchester N. 8d 1003