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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2023 14:35 |
As you say, such common names in the area...........and nowhere nearer to finding the death which is the subject of this request :-0 :-0 :-0
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ArgyllGran
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11 Nov 2023 13:50 |
Jesse's marriage:
Jesse Dando in the Bristol, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 Name Jesse Dando Gender Male Marriage Age 30 Record Type Marriage Birth Year abt 1817 Marriage Date 20 Mar 1847 Marriage Place St. James' Church, Bristol Parish as it Appears St. James' Church Father Samuel Dando , CLERK - different Samuel, maybe?? <<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse Matilda Hewett
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ArgyllGran
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11 Nov 2023 13:47 |
There are so many different households named Dando/Dandy in the general area, including several Samuels and Marthas, that it's hard to know if the Westerleigh family might be the right one or not.
??? Re Jesse 1813 (baptism posted above) -
possibly same person living next door to OP's Martha Dando and Martha Cook in 1851:
Jesse Dando in the 1851 England Census Name Jesse Dando Age 37 Estimated Birth Year abt 1814 Relation Head Spouse's Name Matilda Dando Gender Male Where born Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish Frampton Cotterell Ecclesiastical parish Coalpit Heath St Saviour County/Island Gloucestershire Country England Registration district Chipping Sodbury Sub-registration district Chipping Sodbury ED, institution, or vessel 3c Neighbors Household schedule number 64 Piece 1956 Folio 617 Page number 16 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Jesse Dando 37 Head Matilda Dando 35 Wife
I don't see him in 1841.
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2023 11:55 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Ram Hill, Westerleigh, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Edward Dando Male 30 1811 Gloucestershire, England Ann Dando Female 35 1806 Gloucestershire, England Martha Dando Female 8 1833 Gloucestershire, England Hannah Dando Female 4 1837 Gloucestershire, England Harriet Dando Female 2 1839 Gloucestershire, England
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2023 11:47 |
??????? First name(s) Samuel Father's first name(s) Samuel Last name Dandy Father's last name Dandy Sex Male Mother's first name(s) Martha Baptism year 1807 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 22 Apr 1807 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Westerleigh Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Gloucestershire Collections from England, Great Britain Country England
First name(s) Hester Country England Last name Dandy Father's first name(s) Samuel Sex Female Father's last name Dandy Baptism year 1803 Mother's first name(s) Martha Baptism date 01 Jun 1803 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Residence Westerleigh, Gloucester, England
First name(s) Silas Country England Last name Dandy Father's first name(s) Samuel Sex Male Father's last name Dandy Baptism year 1805 Mother's first name(s) Martha Baptism date 17 Mar 1805 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Residence Westerleigh, Gloucester, England
First name(s) Jesse Father's first name(s) Samuel Last name Dandy Father's last name Dandy Sex Male Mother's first name(s) Martha Baptism year 1813 Mother's last name Dandy Baptism date 12 Sep 1813 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Residence Westerleigh, Gloucester, England Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place St James
First name(s) Anna Maria Country England Last name Dandy Father's first name(s) Samuel Sex Female Father's last name Dandy Baptism year 1802 Mother's first name(s) Martha Baptism date 25 Jan 1802 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Residence Westerleigh, Gloucester, England
First name(s) Edward Country England Last name Dandy Father's first name(s) Samuel Sex Male Father's last name Dandy Baptism year 1810 Mother's first name(s) Martha Baptism date 07 Aug 1810 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Residence Westerleigh, Gloucester, England
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2023 11:44 |
FMP links this baptism to the marriage
First name(s) Samuel Country England Last name Dandy Father's first name(s) George Sex Male Father's last name Dandy Baptism year 1774 Mother's first name(s) - Baptism date 13 Feb 1774 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Residence Westerleigh, Gloucester, England Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Westerleigh Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Gloucestershire
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ArgyllGran
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11 Nov 2023 09:54 |
The possible marriage, just for the record:
Samuel Dandy in the Bristol, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name Samuel Dandy Event Type Marriage Marriage Date 1 Sep 1800 Marriage Place St James the Great, Gloucestershire, England Parish as it Appears Westerleigh Register Type Bishop Transcripts Spouse Martha Dandy
Samuel Dandy in the Bristol, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 Name Samuel Dandy Record Type Marriage Marriage Date 1 Sep 1800 Marriage Place St James the Great, Gloucestershire, England Spouse Martha Dandy
Another record, without image on Ancestry , says 5th Sept, but that's just a mistranscription. The images of both the records above are clear.
However, if this is the same couple, the Banns were read in February, but the marriage wasn't until September.
Samuel Dandy in the Bristol, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 Name Samuel Dandy Record Type Marriage Marriage Date 16 Feb 1800 [ not marriage - only banns read] Marriage Place St James the Great, Gloucestershire, England [ not marriage - only banns read] Spouse Martha Dandy
The Banns were read on 2nd, 9th, and 16th Feb 1800.
Westerleigh is approx 4 miles from Frampton Cotterell.
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ErikaH
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11 Nov 2023 09:05 |
The marriage was in 1800 at Westerleigh. Transcribed on FMP as Dandy
I would think it extremely unlikely that the 1816 birth was their first child
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SylviaInCanada
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11 Nov 2023 01:02 |
According to a family tree on Ancestry, Martha Dando b. ca 1816 parents Samuel and Martha Dandy married Thomas Bateman
Spouse Thomas Bateman Father Samuel Dandy Mother Martha Dandy Children Samuel Birth 1816 Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England Death Dec 1895 Gloucestershire, England
After searching, I found this (with help from that tree!
Bristol, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1938 Name Martha Sands [Martha Dando] Gender Female Record Type Marriage Marriage Date 29 May 1836 Marriage Place Frampton Cotterell, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England Parish as it Appears Frampton Cotterell Spouse Thomas Bateman
The image on the register is Dando!
No parents' names of either Thomas or Martha
1841 Census
Name Martha Bateman Age 15 Estimated Birth Year abt 1826 Gender Female Where born Gloucestershire, England Civil parish Frampton Cotterel Hundred Langley and Swinehead (Upper Division) County/Island Gloucestershire Country England Registration district Chipping Sodbury Sub-registration district Iron Acton Neighbors View others on page
Name Age Martha Bateman 15 Thomas Bateman 15 Annamwrich Bateman 3 Samuel Bateman 2 George Bateman 2 Mo
Ages on 1841 can be out by as much as 5 years, but I fear this is NOT the correct Martha, as she would have been about 25 in 1841.
Sorry!
My hope had been that Mama would have been with them!
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SylviaInCanada
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11 Nov 2023 00:39 |
I am puzzled by the fact that there are only 2 daughters to the marriage.
According to the 1851 Census, Martha was born in 1778 +/- 2 years, so she was around 38 when Martha was born.
Have you found a marriage date for Martha and Samuel??
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SylviaInCanada
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11 Nov 2023 00:36 |
Samuel is also shown as collier at Rachel's baptism
Gloucestershire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1913
Name Rachel Dando Event Type Baptism Baptism Date 12 Nov 1820 Baptism Place Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England Father Samuel Dando <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< collier Mother Martha Dando
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SylviaInCanada
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11 Nov 2023 00:15 |
He might not be deceased when you think.
If he left the family for some reason, then it would not be unusual for the wife to save face by saying he was dead. Children might not know whether he was deceased OR, depending on how the question was asked by the vicar, gave the wrong answer
eg, What is your father's name? Samuel Dando.
vs What is your father's name, and is he still alive? Samuel Dando, and he's dead.
Both are quite correct replies, just the extra information was not given in the first case, because the bride did not realise it was needed.
If he really was a miner, then I think the life span was not great, with many dying in accidents underground.
Look at Parish Burials.
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ErikaH
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9 Nov 2023 19:37 |
I mentioned only the GRO index.............by definition, that starts at 1st July 1837
Parish records are entirely separate
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Dianna
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9 Nov 2023 19:30 |
I did see that Baptism Date but was'nt sure L will check again,
Dont quite understand why there appears to be no record of Samuel Dondo death. Thanks for all your efforts.
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9 Nov 2023 16:29 |
Death of Martha Dando - there were 2 in 1854 but this one same area as the 1851 census. Her age here then is given as 73 which would give a birth year of 1780/1 - quite a few Martha Dando's in the area too !
Name: Age at Death (in years):
DANDO, MARTHA 73 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in CHIPPING SODBURY Volume 06A Page 128
But there is a Baptism I presume for her 22.2.1778 Frampton Cotterell, d/o Stephen and Rachel
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Dianna
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9 Nov 2023 16:24 |
Hi, Martha's maiden name was also Dando, Rachel married Elias Cook Martha Cook her daughter.
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ErikaH
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9 Nov 2023 16:08 |
No death for Samuel on the GRO index.
Finding Martha in 1841 would be very useful...............
......not living with Rachel
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ErikaH
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9 Nov 2023 15:54 |
What was Martha's maiden name, please?
Death???? DANDO, MARTHA 73 GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in CHIPPING SODBURY Volume 06A Page 128
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ErikaH
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9 Nov 2023 15:44 |
Name Martha Dando Event Type Baptism Baptism Date 15 Sep 1816 Baptism Place Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England Father Samuel Dando..........................Occ: Collier Mother Martha Dando
Name Rachel Dando Marriage Age 20 Record Type Marriage Birth Year abt 1820 Marriage Date 5 Oct 1840 Marriage Place St. James' Church, Bristol, England Father Samuel Dando......Occ Miner (does not say 'deceased') Spouse Elias Cook
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ErikaH
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9 Nov 2023 15:39 |
INFO
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Coalpit Heath, Frampton Cotterell, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Martha Dando Head Widow Female 73 1778 Pauper Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England Martha Cook Grand daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Frampton Cotterell, Gloucestershire, England
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