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Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	25 Sep 2023 23:58
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	I would appreciate some help please. Looking for a marriage of a William Camber b 1795 -98 Orpington to Sarah b 1801 Orpington. By 1841 they were living in Eynesford Kent. 1861 states name Kember. Their son Henry was listed as Coomber in a later census . Found a death for William in 1861 but no death for wife Sarah. Many thanks
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 7,003 Send Message	nameslessone	Report	26 Sep 2023 09:59
Member Since: May 2006 Posts: 7,003 Send Message	William & Sarah are in a lot of Ancestry trees but no one seems to have Sarah’s maiden name. Several of the children are born after 1837 so Erika’s advice on using the GRO to find the maiden name is worth doing. Looking at the various census Sarah’s age seems to differ. In 1861 she appears to be 11 years younger than William, yet it is only about 8 years in 1851. added: Most of the Ancestry trees are from one source with William born 1801 Wrotham. so probably the wrong one.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	26 Sep 2023 11:04
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	1851 census for the family - for our information 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census 1, Bath Terrace, Eynsford, Dartford, Kent, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Camber Head Married Male 53 1798 Ag lab Orpington, Kent, England Sarah Camber Wife Married Female 45 1806 - Orpington, Kent, England George Camber Son Unmarried Male 18 1833 Ag lab Eynsford, Kent, England William Camber Son - Male 13 1838 Ag lab Eynsford, Kent, England Henry Camber Son - Male 11 1840 Ag lab Eynsford, Kent, England Sophia Camber Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Eynsford, Kent, England John Camber Son - Male 5 1846 - Eynsford, Kent, England and from the GRO site mentioned - https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: CAMBER, HENRY LOCKYER GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in DARTFORD UNION KENT Volume 05 Page 91 CAMBER, SOPHIA LOCKYER GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in DARTFORD UNION Volume 05 Page 105 CAMBER, JOHN LOCKYER GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in DARTFORD UNION Volume 05 Page 106
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	26 Sep 2023 11:21
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	1861 census on FMP has them as surname Rember and place of birth for William and Sarah transcribed as Oakington. Suggested corrections notified. The family are at Crocker Hill, Eynsford.
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	26 Sep 2023 11:39
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	The 1861 death you mention for William. Name: Age at Death (in years): CAMBER, WILLIAM 66 GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in DARTFORD Volume 02A Page 166 ------------------------- Have you found Sarah in later census? YES - here in 1871 so no need to look for a death prior to then 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census The Vicarage, Eynsford, Dartford, Kent, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Sarah Comber Head - Female 70 1801 - Kent, England George Comber Son - Male 39 1832 - Kent, England Henry Comber Son - Male 29 1842 - Kent, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	26 Sep 2023 11:42
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Have you followed her children - is she living with one of them perhaps out of the usual area?
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	alviegal	Report	26 Sep 2023 12:02
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,339 Send Message	That mistranscribed 1861. 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Crocker Hill, Eynsford, Dartford, Kent, England Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Rember Head Married Male 66 1795 Agricultural labourer Oakington, Kent, England Sarah Rember Wife Married Female 55 1806 - Oakington, Kent, England George Rember Son Unmarried Male 28 1833 Agricultural labourer Eynsford, Kent, England Henry Rember Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Agricultural labourer Eynsford, Kent, England Sophia Rember Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 - Eynsford, Kent, England John Rember Son Unmarried Male 15 1846 Agricultural labourer Eynsford, Kent, England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	26 Sep 2023 12:16
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	There is a Church - St Martin's in Eynsford, under the Benifice of Eynsford with Framingham and Lullingstone - their Office No. 01322 863050 - who may be able to look up burials in the Churchyard or Contact Kent Records Office who may do a look up for you - 03000 413131. they may charge. However post 1871 wouldn't be too early for a Cremation although more unusual
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	26 Sep 2023 12:17
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Thank you greyghost,re possibly a mothers name of Lockyer for the children, actually I did find a marriage just yesterday of a William KIMBER ( not Kember) to a Sarah LOCKEY in Croydon 14 Dec 1825 and did wonder because being 1825 and the 1st child being born in 1833 which would be 8yrs difference , I kind of ignored it. On the other hand Croydon is not too far from Orpington, so you finding mother of LOCKYER there could be a strong possibility that this could be their marriage ,
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	26 Sep 2023 12:40
	Sarah Father's first name(s) Henry Last name Lockey Father's last name Lockey Sex Female Mother's first name(s) Ann Baptism year 1805 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 27 Oct 1805 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Orpington Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain Country England Sarah Country England Last name Lockey Licence or banns Banns Marital status Spinster Archive Surrey History Centre Marriage year 1825 Archive reference 2888/1/30 Marriage date 12 Dec 1825 Register type Marriages Marriage place Croydon, St John Year range 1813-1827 Spouse's first name(s) William Page 243 Spouse's last name Kimber Record set Surrey Marriages Spouse's condition Bachelor Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records First witness Sophia Kimber Subcategory Parish Marriages Second witness James Stanke Collections from England, Great Britain County Surrey
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	26 Sep 2023 12:47
	???? Wm. Father's first name(s) Thos. Last name Kember Father's last name Kember Sex Male Mother's first name(s) Jane Baptism year 1801 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 26 Apr 1801 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Orpington Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain Country England Thomas County Kent Last name Kimber Country England Role Groom Supplier Kent Family History Society Marriage year 1796 Record source West Kent Marriage Index, Orpington marriages 1560-1812 Marriage date 10 Oct 1796 Record set Kent Marriages And Banns Place Orpington, All Saints Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Spouse's first name(s) Jane Subcategory Parish Marriages Spouse's last name Sims Collections from England, Great Britain Spouse's marital status W
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	26 Sep 2023 12:51
	witness at wedding Sophia Father's first name(s) Thos. Last name Kember Father's last name Kember Sex Female Mother's first name(s) Jane Baptism year 1811 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 29 Dec 1811 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Sutton At Hone Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain Country England
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	26 Sep 2023 12:56
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	Unless they married a bit later in life or had early child deaths then there may have been older children not showing on the 1841 census. OR either could have been married before. The children's birth registrations would have the Mother's maiden name not that under which she married. George born 26.1.1835 baptised 24.2.1833 Eynsford St Martin to William Camber a Labourer and Sarah of Croken Hill James William bapt. 14.3.1835 (one variation of record has William James). He was buried 9.4.1837 at Eynsford age 2 Henry bapt. 20.10.1839
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	greyghost	Report	26 Sep 2023 13:24
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 10,663 Send Message	William Camber from 1851 census - Farningham is close to Eynsford. Original shows of Eynsford (Surname has been transcribed both as Kember, Cumber and Cimber on different records) Transcript of William's record Copy to clipboard First name(s) William Country England Last name Cumber Archive Kent History & Library Centre Baptism date 20 Aug 1837 Archive reference P145/1/B/1 Baptism year 1837 Register type Baptisms Place Farningham, Ss Peter & Paul Year range 1813-1851 Residence Eynsford Page 62 Father's first name(s) William Record set Kent Baptisms Father's occupation Labourer Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Mother's first name(s) Sarah Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain © Findmypast There is something written in a different hand in the surname area of the OPR - "children (?buried in) (?-------- of) Eynsford"
Member Since: March 2003 Posts: 26,276 Send Message	ArgyllGran	Report	26 Sep 2023 13:27
	As Sarah was living in Dartford in 1871: ??? Deaths Jun 1874 (>99%) Kimber Sarah 75 Dartford 2a 220 Age stated at death is only as accurate as the informant's knowledge/belief.
	Researching: Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	26 Sep 2023 14:10
	williams siblings Anne Father's first name(s) Thos. Last name Kember Father's last name Kember Sex Female Mother's first name(s) Jane Baptism year 1799 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 20 Jan 1799 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Orpington Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain Country England Sarah Father's first name(s) Thos. Last name Kember Father's last name Kember Sex Female Mother's first name(s) Jane Baptism year 1797 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 06 Aug 1797 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Orpington Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain Country England Thomas Father's first name(s) Thos. Last name Kember Father's last name Kember Sex Male Mother's first name(s) Jane Baptism year 1803 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 13 Feb 1803 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Orpington Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain Country England
Member Since: December 2009 Posts: 13,418 Send Message	Maddie	Report	26 Sep 2023 14:49
	sarah's siblings Henry Father's first name(s) Henry Last name Lockey Father's last name Lockey Sex Male Mother's first name(s) Ann Baptism year 1803 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 28 Aug 1803 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Orpington Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain Country England James Father's first name(s) Henry Last name Lockey Father's last name Lockey Sex Male Mother's first name(s) Ann Baptism year 1808 Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Baptism date 20 Mar 1808 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Place Orpington Subcategory Parish Baptisms County Kent Collections from England, Great Britain Country England
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	26 Sep 2023 16:24
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Looking at the information that Maddie has found,there seems a few coincidences with William and Sarah Kember. First the witness Sophia Kimber at their wedding in Croydon, William and Sarah had a daughter called Sophia Sarah Patience also a son John Thomas. Looking on post above that Maddie found her father was called Thomas Kember his daughter being Sophia b 1811 so this could be William was the son of Thomas. see Thomas Kember got married in 1796 Orpington so feel this is the family I need. All the spelling of their surnames is very confusing. .
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	26 Sep 2023 16:53
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	A big Thankyou to all of you, vey much appreciate your time in looking up for me. Reading through the posts again , yes feel 100% this is the family.
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	John	Report	26 Sep 2023 17:31
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 863 Send Message	Hi AG, Thankyou for finding the death of Sarah, no wonder I couldn’t find it being under the surname Kimber, Wished I knew what the correct name the family are. Think it is Kember . Eynesford is in the Dartford district.so it must be Sarah. Hope all is OK with you, long time no contact, nice to know you are still on here doing your bit.

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