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Carol

Carol Report 30 Jul 2023 18:36

I have a possible ancester Bruce Malcolm Harber born 27 Sept 1923 Victoria Australia.Father Walter Harber. Any information If Possible.Please

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2023 19:10

Worthwhile having a read of this as a guide to when you can obtain certificates

https://www.nla.gov.au/research-guides/australian-birth-death-and-marriage-records

Births 1922 and before, marriages up to 1950 and deaths up to 1985

Info also on the various States and where you might find further info.

A Walter Samuel Harber died in 1978 Victoria mmn Ellerker

A Walter Samuel Harber married Florence Maud Melvina Davis 1919 Victoria

A Walter Samuel HArber was born 1892 in Victoria, Father Walter Samuel Harber, mother HArber


Australian ER's are online on Ancestry 1903- 1980.

A Bruce Malcolm Harper can be seen on ER's from 1949
1949 - with Walter Samuel, Joan Veronica and Florence at 13 Clive Street, Brighton, Balaclava, Victoria
Walter is in Sales and Bruce a Mechanic

1954 - Bruce Malcolm and Joan Veronica Warrandyte Road, N. Ringwood, Deakin, Victoria. A motor mechanic

1963 - Bruce, Joan and Walter 13 Clive Street. Bruce a Machinist, Walter sales

1967 - ditto

1972 - Bruce, Joan, Paul Andrew, Walter Samuel at 13 Clive Street. Paul is a Mechanic

1977 - . Bruce, Joan, June ellen, Neal Anton and Walter Samuel
Bruce a Machinist, June a dancer, Nelson a technician and Walter sales
13 clive Street, Brighton East, Higinbotham, Victoria

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2023 19:15

Detail Source
Name Walter Samuel Harber
Gender M (Male)
Birth Date oct. 1892 (Oct 1892)
Birth Place St Kilda, Victoria, Australie (Australia)
Death Date 1978
Death Place Bentleigh, Victoria, Australie (Australia)
Father
Walter Samuel Harber
Mother
Constance Eveline (Harber) Ellerker
View on Geneanet
https://gw.geneanet.org/warragul19?n=harber&oc=&p=walter+samuel


Died 11 Dec. 1978 Cremated at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Springvale, Greater Dandenong City, Victoria
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/244298118/walter-samuel-harber

wills and probate records - died 7.12.1978 Brighton East. a Pensioner. Grant of probate 21 aug 1979

Carol

Carol Report 30 Jul 2023 19:16

Thank you so much.For your kind help.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2023 19:17

Australia City Directories - 1921 - Walter S Harber 4 Belsize Avenue, Mrmbna (no idea which Walter)

Carol

Carol Report 30 Jul 2023 19:35

Oh thanks so much. I wasn't expecting all this.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2023 19:42

WW1 records - born St Kilda, Victoria, enlisted at Prahran aged 21 on 17.8.1914, Victoria, Service No 319. NOK - sister Eveline Mabel Harber. A commercial traveller.

Sister - Miss of 202 Inkerman Street, St kilda

Signed on for duration of War plus 4 months

Discharged 5.6/1916 Debility following Dysentery.

Letter to sister - regret to advise brother W Harber of 5th Battalion AIF disembarked at Malta from the hospital ship "Neuralia" on 10th inst. , slightly sick. Further reports received will be promptly communicated.

Further letter - ref. your enquiry re brother , now in receipt of cable from Malta, states suffering from Gastritis, progressing satisfactorily.

8.2.1916 - to sister - Cable advising No 319 Private W S HArber 5th Ben. returning to Australia by H.S. "Known" which left Suez 28.1.1916 , due Melbourne about 5..3.16

Advise take a trial with Ancestry to access all records - don't forget to cancel before they take full year's membership money

Further letter about his pay allotment, involving sister

Granted £3 per fortnight pension from 6.6.16. Of 36 Perth Street, Prahran, reduced to 15/- pf from 1.3.17

Received 1914/15 Star medal

Absent without leave - punishment ordered 6..12.14 - 7 days confined to camp

Writes in 1921 from Murrumbreena asking for his General Service medal to be given to letter bearer Mrs J Whelan

Some medical records

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Jul 2023 19:44

Suggest join Ancestry on a trial so you can access all these records in full - just make sure you cancel before they take a year's worth of membership fees !!

The Harber family have a Family tree on Ancestry (not much info on it) - Bruce Malcolm married Joan Veronica Northeast in 1947 so you should now be able to get copies of that certificate. They had a son in 1948 - too early to get certificate.

Joan died 2014, Bruce died 2017, son 2019 (had married and had a child)

Bruce buried Caulfield South, Glen Eira City, Victoria

Carol

Carol Report 30 Jul 2023 19:53

Thankyou so much

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jul 2023 21:08

Constance Eveline Ellerker
in the Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950Name Constance Eveline Ellerker
Marriage Date 1890
Marriage Place Victoria
Registration Date 1890
Registration Place Victoria, Australia
Spouse Saml Walt Harber
Registration Number 6267



Constance Eveline Harber
in the Victoria, Australia, Divorce Records, 1860-1940
Name Constance Eveline Harber
Gender Female
Role Petitioner
Divorce Age 26
Birth Date abt 1868
Birth Place South Melbourne, Victoria
Marriage Date 31 Jul 1890
Marriage Place Kilda, Victoria
Court Date 1894
Divorce Date 1894
Divorce Place Victoria, Australia
Spouse
Walter Samuel Harber
Case Number 47

She petitioned for divorce on the grounds that Walter (senior) had been "an habitual drunkard" for over 3 years, and had been guilty of cruelty towards her.

Walter was a dentist.
He was born at Abbotsford, Victoria (according to Constance) .
Walter and Constance had had 2 children - Eveline Mabel, born at 175 High Street, St Kilda, Victoria, and aged 3 at time of petition, and Walter Samuel, aged 17 months, and also born at 175 High Street.

She had left him a couple of times because of his cruelty, and had finally left on 2 May 1894..
Various instances of his physical violence are described.
Full details (image of petition document) on Ancestry.



I assume this is her death, with a different surname - though I don't see another marriage record for her:

Constance Everline Tippett
in the Australia and New Zealand, Find a Grave® Index, 1800s-Current
Name Constance Everline Tippett
Maiden Name Elleker
Gender Female
Birth Date 1867
Birth Place Albert Park, Port Phillip City, Victoria, Australia
Death Date 22 Jun 1937
Death Place Fairfield, Darebin City, Victoria, Australia
Cemetery Fawkner Memorial Park
Burial or Cremation Place Fawkner, Moreland City, Victoria, Australia


Constance E Tippet
in the Victoria, Australia, Wills and Probate Records, 1841-2009
Name Constance E Tippet
Death Date 22 Jun 1937
Death Place Northcote
Occupation Widow
Grant Date 15 Jul 1937
Grant A



Here she is in 1919, but not living with any other Tippetts:

Constance Eveline Tippet
in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name Constance Eveline Tippet
Gender Female
Electoral Date 1919
Electoral Place Benalla, Indi, Victoria, Australia
Address: Kent Street, Benalla.
Occupation: home duties.



Carol

Carol Report 5 Aug 2023 04:30

Thanks very much