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James Connolly born abt 1771 in Ireland

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Ellen

Ellen Report 29 Jun 2023 03:30

Now looking for the Birth/ Marriage of James Connolly, Possibly born abt 1771, he married a Mary ? I believe he died 22/6/1828 I don't know where

Their children were Timothy Abt 1790, Laurence Abt 1796 ,Luke Abt 1811
John Abt 1812 ,Patrick Abt 1815

Appreciate any further help

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2023 06:37

You won’t find birth but possibly a baptismal record


Have you tried Family Search site

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 29 Jun 2023 06:45

A tree on ancestry has some research

Found this

1841 census
Name Luke Connelly
Age 29
Estimated Birth Year abt 1812
Gender Male
Where born Ireland
Civil parish Wolverhampton
Hundred North Seisdon and East Cuttlestone and South Offlow
County/Island Staffordshire
Country England
Registration district Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district Wolverhampton Eastern
Neighbors View others on page
Piece 999
Book 6
Folio 29
Page number 2
Household Members (Name) Age
Bridget Gready
25
Lougham Courtney
21
Luke Connelly 29
Patt Caine
19
Prtt Huse
20

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Jun 2023 08:29

Try Family Search as Shirley suggested which is free. Then try www.irishgenealogy.ie which I believe is not free.

Irish research is still problematical with the loss of many records but work is being carried out on other records in compiling lists of names.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2023 09:03

www.irishgenealogy.ie is free.

However, as already said, Irish records are very patchy.
Also, such old records don't usually give much detail to help identify a particular person.
Connolly is a very common name, and we don't know where in Ireland the family came from.

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Jun 2023 10:32

Thanks AG - I was probably thinking of Roots.ie

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 29 Jun 2023 10:47

There are trees on Ancestry showing both a Laurence and a Luke Connolly living in Dewsbury, Yorkshire. Most give the father as Timothy, only one gives the name James.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2023 11:28

Marriage of the Dewsbury Luke (his second wife):

Luke Connoley
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Luke Connoley
Registration Year: 1851
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Dewsbury
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 22
Page: 84
Records on Page:
Name
Luke Connoley
Mary Flinn


In 1851 census he's a widower:

Luke Conally
in the 1851 England Census
Name Luke Conally
Age 40
Estimated Birth Year abt 1811
Relation Head
Gender Male
Where born Ireland
Civil parish Dewsbury
Ecclesiastical parish St Matthew
County/Island Yorkshire
Country England
Registration district Dewsbury
Sub-registration district Mirfield
ED, institution, or vessel 1r
Neighbors
Household schedule number 245
Piece 2324
Folio 673
Page number 6
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Luke Conally 40 Head
Catharine Conally 18 Daughter
Honora Conally 9 Daughter
James Conally 15 Son
Michael Conley 6 Son
Patrick Conley 36 Lodger, Ireland, married <<<<<< [ Luke's brother ???]
Catharine Conley 30 Lodger, married
Margaret Cowley 12 Lodger
James McCaughin 45 Lodger
Catharine McCaughin 40 Lodger
Ellen McCaughin 18 Lodger



His first wife was Mary Verdun / Verdin - but I can't see their marriage, which was probably in Ireland.
Eldest daughter Catherine was born in Ireland, per census.

Mary Verdun's death:

CONNOLEY, MARY 39
GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in OF THE DEWSBURY UNION Volume 22 Page 35


Luke's 1851 marriage cert should name his father..

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2023 12:34

Suggestion ONLY...........................but not for James

First name(s) Timothy
Discharge corps 95th Regt Of Foot
Last name Connolly
Document type Discharge
Birth year 1789
Archive reference WO 97
Birth parish Cork
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Birth town Cork
Box 1031
Birth county Cork**************
Box record number 53
Birth country Ireland
Archive The National Archives
Service number -
Country Ireland
Privt
Record set British Army Service Records
Regiment 95th Regt Of Foot
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Year 1812
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Attestation date 24 Mar 1812
Collections from Great Britain, UK Other
Attestation age years 23

AND/OR
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ship Street, St George, St George in the East, London & Middlesex, England
Jeremiah Calahan Male 50 1791 Ireland
Ellen Calahan Female 48 1793 Ireland
Margaret Callahan Female 20 1821 Ireland
Ellen Callahan Female 14 1827 Middlesex, England
Timothy Connelly Male 52 1789 Ireland
Mary Connelly Female 45 1796 Ireland
Jeremiah Connelly Male 14 1827 Ireland



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2023 12:37

Where did you find the names of children of James and Mary?

WHERE was each of them baptised (too early for birth records)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2023 14:51

You mentioned the possible date of death 26/6/1828.

At least one of the Ancestry trees has documentary evidence of that date of death for a Timothy Connell, murdered on board the "Mary Russell" , off Cork.
Gravestone erected by his brother Patrick Connell.

Google produces a number of sites detailing the incident - for instance this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Russell_murders


BUT -
the tree does NOT in any way prove that Timothy, Laurence, Luke , Patrick and John were brothers, nor that they were the sons of James/Timothy.

Nor that the Timothy Connell who died in 1828 was the same Timothy as the supposed member of that supposed family.

No baptism records are given for any of them, so there's no way of knowing who their parents were, nor even if they were brothers.
Their years of birth are taken from census records.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 29 Jun 2023 16:40

Death referred to James, I thought ;-) ;-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 29 Jun 2023 23:22

Ellen said it was James's death - but Ancestry tree, and reports of the murder, say it was Timothy's.

But we have no proof that they're even members of the right family. Might be just a coincidence re date.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2023 09:42

So not much in the way of factual info to work on…………………

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2023 10:00

None at all, as far as I can see!
Can't see anything online to prove that the supposed siblings were actually siblings.
No baptism records.

Maybe Ellen knows more.

Death record for the supposed son John (image provided on Ancestry tree) gives his father's name as Timothy.
But John Connolly is a very common name.

The tree (and others which have copied from each other) has Patrick emigrating to Massachusetts in 1863 - but then living in Sheffield in 1871. Not impossible, but no proof that both records are for the same person - another very common name.

Ellen

Ellen Report 30 Jun 2023 13:44

I have the marriage Certificate of Luke Connolly to Mary Galway on the 20th December 1871 says his father is James Connolly

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2023 14:14

Married where, please?

And where did you get the info about Luke's alleged siblings?

It helps us to help you if you tell us everything you actually know to be factual...................

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2023 14:16

OK..................

Name Mary Galway
Gender Female
Event Type Marriage
Marriage Date 20 Dec 1871
Marriage Place Fermoy, Ireland, Ireland
Parish Variants Fermoy Union Workhouse, Workhouse, Fermoy Union
Diocese Cloyne
Spouse Luke Connolly

BOTH parties were aged 19************************, he a Soldier, she a Milliner.
His father James, occ Shoemaker
Her father Samuel, occ Weaver
IMAGE is on https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Witnesses: Francis Mullen, Elizabeth Barrett

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 30 Jun 2023 15:02

In which case, Luke is not a brother of the John whose father was named Timothy.

The marriage is also on Ancestry, although not the image with fathers' names..

He is also not the Luke Connolly who lived in Dewsbury.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jun 2023 15:16

Nor was he born c1811............................ :-S :-S

...................some sort of 'paper trail' is needed