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I have a marriage for these in March qtr 1919 at East Retford.
I have John in 1891 with parents Benjamin and Mary, I also have both the 1901 and 1911 for John, BUT have absolutely nothing for Alice Wells so hoping the 1921 will give me a clue where she was born and I will be able to trace her parents etc.
Thank-you.

Just in case it helps their son James Abey was born in Worksop, Notts in 1925 and it looks like they stayed in Worksop. Wondering about the 1939 register ??

1939 5 Avenue Road, Retford, East Retford M.B., Nottinghamshire, England

John H Abey 25 Nov 1889 Male Railway Loco Coalman Married 85 1
Alice Abey 07 Jul 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 85 2
James Abey 26 Dec 1924 Male Butcher's Errand Boy Single 85 3

Thank- you very much Rambling

If you buy a copy of the marriage cert, it will tell you Alice's father's name.


Alice Abey
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name Alice Abey
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Birth Date 7 Jul 1885
Residence Date 1939
Address 5 Avenue Road
Residence Place East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number 32
Schedule Number 85
Sub Schedule Number 2
Enumeration District Rnfh
Borough East Retford
Registration district 426/1
Inferred Spouse
John H Abey
Inferred Children
James Abey
Household Members (Name) Age
John H Abey 50 - 25 Nov 1889
Alice Abey 54
James Abey 15
This record is officially closed.


Alice Abey
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Alice Abey
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: abt 1887
Registration Date: Jan 1966[Feb 1966] [Mar 1966]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Worksop
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 698

Alice and John H are on the 1921 mistranscribed as Alice Aley, sorry I don't have full access but birth place for Alice is given as " Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England "

Thank you ArgyllGran, I will pass all this on to James and he can send for the certificate.

No problem Rambling, thank you for your time.

ABY, JOHN HENRY mmn VERNON
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in EAST RETFORD Volume 07B Page 11


WELLS, ALICE mmn MITCHELL
GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SOUTHWELL NOTTS Volume 07B Page 408


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Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
MITCHELL Elizabeth E. Retford 7b 38
Wells Charlton East Retford 7b 38


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Alice Wells
in the 1891 England Census
Name Alice Wells
Gender Female
Age 5
Relationship Daughter
Birth Year 1886
Father
Charlton Wells
Mother
Elizabeth Wells
Birth Place Sutton on Trent, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish Ordsall
Ecclesiastical parish Ordsall
Residence Place Elksley, Ordsall, Nottinghamshire, England
Registration district East Retford
Sub registration district East Retford
ED, Institution or Vessel 16
Neighbors
Piece 2641
Folio 111
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Charlton Wells 29 Head
Elizabeth Wells 31 Wife
Charles Wells 7 Son
Alice Wells 5 Daughter
John William Wells 4 Son
Elizabeth Wells 3 Daughter
Charlton Wells 6/12 Son

Alice Wells
in the 1901 England Census
Name Alice Wells
Age 15
Estimated Birth Year abt 1886
Relation to Head Daughter
Gender Female
Father Charlton Wells
Mother Elizabeth Wells
Birth Place Sutton on Trent, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish Ordsall
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Ecclesiastical parish Ordsall All Hallows
Town East Retford
County/Island Nottinghamshire
Country England
Registration district East Retford
Sub-registration district East Retford
ED, institution, or vessel 17
Neighbors
Piece 3122
Folio 93
Page number 1
Household schedule number 1
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Charlton Wells 37 Head
Elizabeth Wells 41 Wife
Charles Wells 17 Son
Alice Wells 15 Daughter
John W Wells 14 Son
Elizabeth Wells 12 Daughter
Thomas Wells 8 Son
Lily Wells 5 Daughter
May Wells 4 Daughter



Alice Wells
in the 1911 England Census
Name Alice Wells
Age in 1911 25
Estimated Birth Year abt 1886
Relation to Head Daughter
Gender Female
Birth Place Sutton on Trent, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish Ordsall
County/Island Nottinghamshire
Country England
Street Address Ash Villa Retford
Marital Status Single
Occupation Ironer
Registration District Number 426
Sub-registration district East Retford
ED, institution, or vessel 11
Piece 20205
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Charlton Wells 47 Head
Elizabeth Wells 50 Wife
Alice Wells 25 Daughter
John William Wells 24 Son
Thomas Wells 18 Son
Lilly Wells 15 Daughter
May Wells 14 Daughter
Dally Salbert 24 Visitor


Sutton on Trent is approx 12miles from Southwell.

Charlton Wells
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charlton Wells
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: abt 1864
Registration Date: Oct 1939[Nov 1939] [Dec 1939]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: east Retford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 25



Charlton Wells
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name Charlton Wells
Death Date 4 Dec 1939
Death Place Nottinghamshire, England
Probate Date 17 Jan 1940
Probate Registry Nottingham, England


WELLS Charlton of 17 West Carr Road, Retford, Nottinghamshire died 4 December 1939.
Probate Nottingham 17 January to Herbert Howgate, retired railway inspector, and John Lewin, railway foreman. Effects £367 12s.
Admin (Will) de bonis non Nottingham, May1st 1967.


Re "de bonis non":
https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/inheritance-tax-manual/ihtm05102

Wow, I wonder why he left his effects to those people when he had a big family, its a bit wierd. Love these interesting snippets though, thank you

He didn't leave his effects to Herbert Howgate or John Lewin.
Well - he may have left them something, but not necessarily, and that's not why they're named.

They are the people given the duty of carrying out whatever his wishes were in his Will.


If you're interested to know who he DID leave his effects to, you can buy a copy of his Will for £1.50, here:

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

His record's not easy to find there.
Search for Wells (omit first name), year of death 1939.
Ignore the second page of search terms.
That will produce 807 pages of "image search results".
Don't bother trying to scroll through the pages to find his details.
Just click on the image, which will bring up the order form on the right side of the next page.
Enter on the order form at the right side of the page, the probate record details I've already posted .
Ignore the fact that it says "0 results returned".
Go to "My basket" in small print at the top of the page.
Log in if not already done so.
Pay.

1921 Census Of England & Wales
6, Westwood View, Sandy Lane, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
John Henry Aley Head Male 1884 36 Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Refief Charge Man Great Central Railway Company Loco Department
Alice Aley Wife Female 1885 35 Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England Home Duties -

From original - John said to be 37 years and 7 months old and Alice 35 y 11m

Have reported the surname spelling

Thank you ArgyllGran and greyghost.

DEATH OF MRS WELLS.— The death of Mrs. Wells, wife of Mr. Charlton Wells, Inspector at the L.N.E.R. Station, Retford, took place on Sunday week at 21, Century-road, Retford. She had been an invalid for 10 years.....

13 November 1928

Retford and Worksop Herald and North Notts Advertiser
Retford, Nottinghamshire, England

They had a family of 3 sons and 4 daughters and Mrs Wells was from Tuxford.
Mentioned at her funeral was Mrs J Aby (Worksop), Mrs G E Aby, Mr&Mrs E Bower, Mr&Mrs J Woodward, all daughters, the 3 sons and their wives and her brother W Mitchell and his wife.

Charlton's mother wasn't married at the time of his birth:

WELLS, CHARLTON GLAZEBROOK -
GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 5


Charlton Wells
in the 1871 England Census
Name Charlton Wells
Age 7
Estimated Birth Year 1864
Relation Son
Gender Male
Where born Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil parish Askham
Town Rockley
County/Island Nottinghamshire
Country England
Registration district East Retford
Sub-registration district Tuxford
ED, institution, or vessel 10
Household schedule number 53
Piece 3457
Folio 40
Page number 10
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
Thomas North 26 Head
Hannah North 28 Wife
Charlton Wells 7 Son
Clara North 1 Daughter
Ann Wells 69 Mother[-in-law of Thomas]



Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%)
NORTH Thomas E. Retford 7b 48
Wells Hannah E. Retford 7b 48


NORTH, CLARA mmn WELLS
GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 23



Possibly the groom in this marriage was Charlton Wells's father ????

Charlton Glazebrook
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charlton Glazebrook
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: East Retford
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 26
Records on Page:
Name
Charlton Glazebrook
Elizabeth Rylatt

He went on to have about 11 or 12 children with Elizabeth.

Hi Alviegal, thank you for this extra information, very interesting.