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Teresa
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2 Jun 2023 09:54 |
Hi Alviegal, thank you for this extra information, very interesting.
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1 Jun 2023 22:22 |
Charlton's mother wasn't married at the time of his birth:
WELLS, CHARLTON GLAZEBROOK - GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 5
Charlton Wells in the 1871 England Census Name Charlton Wells Age 7 Estimated Birth Year 1864 Relation Son Gender Male Where born Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish Askham Town Rockley County/Island Nottinghamshire Country England Registration district East Retford Sub-registration district Tuxford ED, institution, or vessel 10 Household schedule number 53 Piece 3457 Folio 40 Page number 10 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Thomas North 26 Head Hannah North 28 Wife Charlton Wells 7 Son Clara North 1 Daughter Ann Wells 69 Mother[-in-law of Thomas]
Marriages Dec 1868 (>99%) NORTH Thomas E. Retford 7b 48 Wells Hannah E. Retford 7b 48
NORTH, CLARA mmn WELLS GRO Reference: 1869 D Quarter in EAST RETFORD UNION Volume 07B Page 23
Possibly the groom in this marriage was Charlton Wells's father ????
Charlton Glazebrook in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Charlton Glazebrook Registration Year: 1864 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: East Retford Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 26 Records on Page: Name Charlton Glazebrook Elizabeth Rylatt
He went on to have about 11 or 12 children with Elizabeth.
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1 Jun 2023 21:37 |
DEATH OF MRS WELLS.— The death of Mrs. Wells, wife of Mr. Charlton Wells, Inspector at the L.N.E.R. Station, Retford, took place on Sunday week at 21, Century-road, Retford. She had been an invalid for 10 years.....
13 November 1928
Retford and Worksop Herald and North Notts Advertiser Retford, Nottinghamshire, England
They had a family of 3 sons and 4 daughters and Mrs Wells was from Tuxford. Mentioned at her funeral was Mrs J Aby (Worksop), Mrs G E Aby, Mr&Mrs E Bower, Mr&Mrs J Woodward, all daughters, the 3 sons and their wives and her brother W Mitchell and his wife.
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Teresa
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1 Jun 2023 15:08 |
Thank you ArgyllGran and greyghost.
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31 May 2023 22:46 |
1921 Census Of England & Wales 6, Westwood View, Sandy Lane, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer John Henry Aley Head Male 1884 36 Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Refief Charge Man Great Central Railway Company Loco Department Alice Aley Wife Female 1885 35 Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England Home Duties -
From original - John said to be 37 years and 7 months old and Alice 35 y 11m
Have reported the surname spelling
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31 May 2023 18:27 |
He didn't leave his effects to Herbert Howgate or John Lewin. Well - he may have left them something, but not necessarily, and that's not why they're named.
They are the people given the duty of carrying out whatever his wishes were in his Will.
If you're interested to know who he DID leave his effects to, you can buy a copy of his Will for £1.50, here:
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
His record's not easy to find there. Search for Wells (omit first name), year of death 1939. Ignore the second page of search terms. That will produce 807 pages of "image search results". Don't bother trying to scroll through the pages to find his details. Just click on the image, which will bring up the order form on the right side of the next page. Enter on the order form at the right side of the page, the probate record details I've already posted . Ignore the fact that it says "0 results returned". Go to "My basket" in small print at the top of the page. Log in if not already done so. Pay.
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Teresa
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31 May 2023 17:43 |
Wow, I wonder why he left his effects to those people when he had a big family, its a bit wierd. Love these interesting snippets though, thank you
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31 May 2023 17:35 |
Charlton Wells in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Charlton Wells Death Age: 75 Birth Date: abt 1864 Registration Date: Oct 1939[Nov 1939] [Dec 1939] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: east Retford Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 25
Charlton Wells in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 Name Charlton Wells Death Date 4 Dec 1939 Death Place Nottinghamshire, England Probate Date 17 Jan 1940 Probate Registry Nottingham, England
WELLS Charlton of 17 West Carr Road, Retford, Nottinghamshire died 4 December 1939. Probate Nottingham 17 January to Herbert Howgate, retired railway inspector, and John Lewin, railway foreman. Effects £367 12s. Admin (Will) de bonis non Nottingham, May1st 1967.
Re "de bonis non": https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/inheritance-tax-manual/ihtm05102
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31 May 2023 17:26 |
Alice Wells in the 1901 England Census Name Alice Wells Age 15 Estimated Birth Year abt 1886 Relation to Head Daughter Gender Female Father Charlton Wells Mother Elizabeth Wells Birth Place Sutton on Trent, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish Ordsall Search Photos View blank form Ecclesiastical parish Ordsall All Hallows Town East Retford County/Island Nottinghamshire Country England Registration district East Retford Sub-registration district East Retford ED, institution, or vessel 17 Neighbors Piece 3122 Folio 93 Page number 1 Household schedule number 1 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Charlton Wells 37 Head Elizabeth Wells 41 Wife Charles Wells 17 Son Alice Wells 15 Daughter John W Wells 14 Son Elizabeth Wells 12 Daughter Thomas Wells 8 Son Lily Wells 5 Daughter May Wells 4 Daughter
Alice Wells in the 1911 England Census Name Alice Wells Age in 1911 25 Estimated Birth Year abt 1886 Relation to Head Daughter Gender Female Birth Place Sutton on Trent, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish Ordsall County/Island Nottinghamshire Country England Street Address Ash Villa Retford Marital Status Single Occupation Ironer Registration District Number 426 Sub-registration district East Retford ED, institution, or vessel 11 Piece 20205 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Charlton Wells 47 Head Elizabeth Wells 50 Wife Alice Wells 25 Daughter John William Wells 24 Son Thomas Wells 18 Son Lilly Wells 15 Daughter May Wells 14 Daughter Dally Salbert 24 Visitor
Sutton on Trent is approx 12miles from Southwell.
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31 May 2023 17:22 |
ABY, JOHN HENRY mmn VERNON GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in EAST RETFORD Volume 07B Page 11
WELLS, ALICE mmn MITCHELL GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SOUTHWELL NOTTS Volume 07B Page 408
??? Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%) MITCHELL Elizabeth E. Retford 7b 38 Wells Charlton East Retford 7b 38
?? Alice Wells in the 1891 England Census Name Alice Wells Gender Female Age 5 Relationship Daughter Birth Year 1886 Father Charlton Wells Mother Elizabeth Wells Birth Place Sutton on Trent, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish Ordsall Ecclesiastical parish Ordsall Residence Place Elksley, Ordsall, Nottinghamshire, England Registration district East Retford Sub registration district East Retford ED, Institution or Vessel 16 Neighbors Piece 2641 Folio 111 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Charlton Wells 29 Head Elizabeth Wells 31 Wife Charles Wells 7 Son Alice Wells 5 Daughter John William Wells 4 Son Elizabeth Wells 3 Daughter Charlton Wells 6/12 Son
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Teresa
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31 May 2023 17:19 |
No problem Rambling, thank you for your time.
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Teresa
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31 May 2023 17:17 |
Thank you ArgyllGran, I will pass all this on to James and he can send for the certificate.
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Rambling
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31 May 2023 17:15 |
Alice and John H are on the 1921 mistranscribed as Alice Aley, sorry I don't have full access but birth place for Alice is given as " Southwell, Nottinghamshire, England "
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ArgyllGran
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31 May 2023 17:11 |
If you buy a copy of the marriage cert, it will tell you Alice's father's name.
Alice Abey in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name Alice Abey Gender Female Marital Status Married Birth Date 7 Jul 1885 Residence Date 1939 Address 5 Avenue Road Residence Place East Retford, Nottinghamshire, England Occupation Unpaid Domestic Duties Line Number 32 Schedule Number 85 Sub Schedule Number 2 Enumeration District Rnfh Borough East Retford Registration district 426/1 Inferred Spouse John H Abey Inferred Children James Abey Household Members (Name) Age John H Abey 50 - 25 Nov 1889 Alice Abey 54 James Abey 15 This record is officially closed.
Alice Abey in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Alice Abey Death Age: 79 Birth Date: abt 1887 Registration Date: Jan 1966[Feb 1966] [Mar 1966] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Worksop Inferred County: Nottinghamshire Volume: 3c Page: 698
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Teresa
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31 May 2023 17:11 |
Thank- you very much Rambling
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31 May 2023 17:10 |
1939 5 Avenue Road, Retford, East Retford M.B., Nottinghamshire, England
John H Abey 25 Nov 1889 Male Railway Loco Coalman Married 85 1 Alice Abey 07 Jul 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 85 2 James Abey 26 Dec 1924 Male Butcher's Errand Boy Single 85 3
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31 May 2023 16:18 |
Just in case it helps their son James Abey was born in Worksop, Notts in 1925 and it looks like they stayed in Worksop. Wondering about the 1939 register ??
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Teresa
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31 May 2023 16:14 |
I have a marriage for these in March qtr 1919 at East Retford. I have John in 1891 with parents Benjamin and Mary, I also have both the 1901 and 1911 for John, BUT have absolutely nothing for Alice Wells so hoping the 1921 will give me a clue where she was born and I will be able to trace her parents etc. Thank-you.
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