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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2023 17:50 |
Joseph senior's birth, which hasn't been posted yet:
MCMEHAN JOSEPH mmn ROBISON M 1880 668 / 176 Linlithgow
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ErikaH
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22 Mar 2023 17:46 |
Who - exactly - is your PROVEN relation in this line?
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2023 14:20 |
Re 1911 -
Margaret may be a mistranscription. It may be that the transcriber mis-read "Mary" as "Marg" or Margt".
Or the enumerator got confused with the mother's name being Margaret.
EDIT: Have just had a look - curiosity got the better of me.
The daughter Margaret is clearly written as Margaret, so it's probably a mistake by the enumerator.
It's definitely the right family, as there's also a boarder with them: Catherine McAlpine, 18, single, factory worker at explosives works, born in Linlithgow.
This is Catherine's birth, which makes her a sister of Margaret/Maggie, Joseph's wife.:
MCALPINE CATHERINE mmn MCGREGOR F 1892 668 / 104 Linlithgow
The father Joseph McMeechan is a railway engine driver, born in Linlithgow. In fact, the whole household is said to be born in Linlithgow. Their address in 1911 is 14 West Port, Linlithgow
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alviegal
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22 Mar 2023 13:49 |
Joseph snr's death?
MCMEECHAN JOSEPH 77 M 1958 486 / 32 Polmont and Muiravonside
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MCMEECHAN MARGARET 79 F 1961 486 / 64 Polmont and Muiravonside
did Joseph jnr return?
MCMEECHAN JOSEPH 87 MCALPINE M 1995 485 / 52 Polmont and Muiravonside
sorry must away now.
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alviegal
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22 Mar 2023 13:45 |
MCMECHEN JOSEPH MCALINE M 1907 668 / 155 Linlithgow
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MCMEHEN MARY JANE ROBER MCALPINE F 1903 668 / 47 Linlithgow
Think Margaret is either a mistake on the 1911 or it's what she was known as.
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Sylann
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22 Mar 2023 13:43 |
Got a Joseph 1907 Linlithgow MMN Mcaline ?? error so that looks promising for the 1911 census
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alviegal
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22 Mar 2023 13:39 |
Joseph jnr going to Canada.
Name: Joseph McMechan Gender: Male Arrival Age: 17 Birth Year: abt 1910 Birth Country: Scotland Departure Port: Greenock, Scotland Arrival Date: 10 Sep 1927 Arrival Port: Quebec, Canada Vessel: Montrose
b in Linlithgow, race was Irish, he was a miner going to brother in law Mr Martin in Peterboro. His father was J McMechan of 8 ?? Place, Polmont.
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Sylann
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22 Mar 2023 13:38 |
Not sure about the 1911 census nothing is showing up on SP for births of Margaret or Joseph
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Sylann
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22 Mar 2023 13:20 |
Could be I've got so many different children ? but Janet matches and may be Margaret 29 for Maggie? I'll see what I can sort out
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alviegal
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22 Mar 2023 13:09 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Linlithgow Bridge Village, Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland Household members (7 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph McMehen Head Married Male 28 1853 Railway surfaceman Ireland Mary Jane McMehen Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Ireland William A McMehen Son - Male 9 1872 Scholar Ireland Mary Ann McMehen Daughter - Female 6 1875 Scholar Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland Nancy McMehen Daughter - Female 5 1876 Scholar Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland Jane McMehen Daughter - Female 3 1878 - Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland >>Joseph McMehen Son - Male 0 1881 - Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Falkirk Road, Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland Household members (5 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph McMeuchen Head Married Male 48 1853 Platelayer n b ry Ireland Mary Jane Polinson Or Mcmeuchen Wife Married Female 58 1843 - Ireland Joseph McMeuchen Son Single Male 20 1881 Fireman n b ry Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire (West Lothian), Scotland Catherine McMeuchen Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Paper mill worker Stirlingshire, Scotland George McMeuchen Son Single Male 15 1886 Engine cleaner n b ry Stirlingshire, Scotland
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alviegal
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22 Mar 2023 13:02 |
MCMEECHAN JOSEPH 1911 M 30 668/ 4/ 1 Linlithgow West Lothian
with Margaret 29, Janet 9, Joseph 3 and Margaret 8.
Is this your family still in Linlithgow in 1911?
Same family in 1921?
MCMEECHAN JOSEPH 1921 M 40 486/ 6/ 19 Muiravonside Stirling
with Margaret 39, Joseph 13, Mary Jane 18, George 9 and Maegaret 2.
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Sylann
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22 Mar 2023 11:54 |
Good morning just you beat me to it yes I've got all that I was a bit concerned about Mary Jane But it doesn't matter as yet don't think she is related only by marriage
The children's births that you put on yes they are mine But different family
I'm going to check now and make sure I've got the right children for the right parents??
Thank you for all your help
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2023 09:27 |
Maggie Mcalpine in the 1891 Scotland Census Name: Maggie Mcalpine Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: George Mcalpine Mother's Name: Maggie Mcalpine Gender: Female Where born: Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire Registration Number: 668 Registration district: Linlithgow Civil parish: Linlithgow Town: Linlithgow County: West Lothian Address: 251 High Street Occupation: Scholar ED: 3 Household schedule number: 66 Line: 22 Roll: CSSCT1891_326 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship George Mcalpine 30 Head - shoemaker Maggie Mcalpine 29 Wife Maggie Mcalpine 9 Daughter Janet Mcalpine 4 Daughter Nellie Mcalpine 1 Daughter
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2023 09:16 |
The 1901 census ErikaH mentioned (name transcribed as McMerchen on Ancestry):
Joseph Mc Merchen in the 1901 Scotland Census Name: Joseph Mc Merchen Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Relationship: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Jane Polidson Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 668 Registration district: Linlithgow Civil parish: Linlithgow County: West Lothian Address: Falkirk Road Occupation: Platelayer N B Ry ED: 11 Household schedule number: 92 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1901_357 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship Joseph Mc Merchen 48 Head - Platelayer, North British Railway. Mary Jane Polidson 58 Wife Mary Jane Mc Merchen 58 Wife Joseph Mc Merchen 20 Son Catherine Mc Merchen 17 Daur (Daughter) George Mc Merchen 15 Son
Polidson may well be a mistranscription of Robinson. Another 6 credits on SP would let you see the original document.
Possible marriage of parents ??:
SR District/Reg Area - Monaghan Marriage of JOSEPH MCMECHAN and MARY ROBINSON on 28 November 1870
Party 1 Name JOSEPH MCMECHAN Party 2 Name MARY ROBINSON Date of Event 28 November 1870 Group Registration ID 2737703 SR District/Reg Area Monaghan
On 28 Nov 1870. Joseph McMechan, full age, bachelor, labourer. Address: Feragh, Monaghan. Father: Andrew McMechan, labourer
Mary Jane Robison, full age, spinster. Address: Creevagh, Tullycorbet (?) Father: Adam Robison, labourer.
Witnesses: Owen McCabe and Charles McMechan.
Both Joseph and Mary Jane only made their marks. Mary Jane's name is ROBISON in the record, but the name provided where she made her mark is ROBINSON.
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ErikaH
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22 Mar 2023 09:03 |
No, AG, I didn’t look at cert - merely searched on FMP for ‘Joseph’ In Linlithgow in 1901 ;-) ;-)
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ArgyllGran
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22 Mar 2023 08:48 |
Had a look at the marriage cert to see parents' names (and I guess ErikaH has also done so):
14 June 1901, at 225 High Street, Linlithgow. Joseph McMehan, railway fireman, bachelor, 20. Usual residence: Linlithgow Bridge. Parents: Joseph McMehan, railway platelayer, and Mary Jane McMehan, maiden surname Robertson.
Maggie McAlpine, spinster, 19. Usual residence: Linlithgow Bridge. Parents: George McAlpine, shoemaker, deceased, and Margaret McAlpine, maiden surname McGregor.
Witnesses: Alfred Pownie (Downie ?) and Janet McAlpine.
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Sylann
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21 Mar 2023 19:34 |
Thank you I got the marriage certificate for Joseph and Maggie opened a can of worms ??? My McAlpine named their children with the same names getting this certificate I've realised that some that I got from other people are for the wrong family Yes it does look as though they could be related but I'm going to leave it for tonight and take it up again tomorrow
The McMeechen is spelt so many different ways McMehen is one??
Thank you again back tomorrow hopefully I'll be OK
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ErikaH
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21 Mar 2023 19:15 |
Without birth year info from the OP, it’s bit of a lottery, but
There’s a Joseph McMeuchen b, 1881 with father Joseph 1853, b IRELAND in Linlithgow in 1901 per FMP Wife of Joseph snr is Mary jane Polinson or Mcmeuchen
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ArgyllGran
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21 Mar 2023 18:43 |
Births of other likely siblings of Janet:
MCMECHEN GEORGE MCALPINE MCALPINE M 1911 668 / 149 Linlithgow
MCMEECHAN AGNES DOWNIE mmn MCALPINE F 1915 668 / 82 Linlithgow MCMEECHAN MAGGIE MCALPINE mmn MCALPINE F 1904 668 / 139 Linlithgow MCMEECHAN JAMES HANLON MC[alpine] mmn MCALPINE M 1907 668 / 174 Linlithgow MCMEECHAN ROBERT TWEED mmn MCALPINE M 1906 668 / 170 Linlithgow
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ArgyllGran
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21 Mar 2023 18:23 |
Don't know if this person is related or not:
Canada, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Joseph McMechan Gender Male Arrival Age 17 Birth Year 1910 Birth Country Scotland [ born Linlithgow] Departure Port Greenock, Scotland Arrival Date 10 Sep 1927 Arrival Port Quebec, Canada Vessel Montrose
His birth.
MCMEECHAN JOSEPH M 1912 668 / 155 Linlithgow
Might possibly be a brother of Janet - but you'd need to see the birth cert.
Unfortunately, SP hasn't transcribed mmn on all births yet, though they're working on it
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