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You would be wise to obtain the adoption certificate.

There is no birth of a Peter Webb or West in Lincoln in 1957.

There are some of each in other places in Lincolnshire, in other years - but none which would fit with a DOB 12/1/57.


If that DOB is correct, in Lincoln, in first quarter 1957, there are birth registrations for boys named Peter, with these surnames -

Adlard, Barron, Farnsworth, Kay, Shaw, and White.


There are two possibly illegitimate births with surname West - but not named Peter:
But - there was a West/West marriage in another part of Lincolnshire in 1950, so they may be children of that couple.
There are also other West/West births in Lincolnshire from1950 onwards.

There are none with surname Webb.

Look for yourself, on https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

ladys just an update ive just found out that my dads birth name is peter webb or west he was apparently born in lincoln ive searched but getting no were could if any of you no wheather there would be a birth certificate registered in this name at all and also taking the first steps in getting his birth parents names so thank you gwyn in kent for your input on that one

Re-reading the info on the link posted by Kay????, it seems that you'll have to use an adoptions agency. There's no way to find your father's unknown birth details by yourself online:

"Previously, only the person adopted and their birth relatives were able to use specialised adoption agencies to help shed light on their family history and make contact with their biological family members.

The new rules will extend this right to all relatives of adopted adults, . . ."


Probably best to ask an agency in the Grimsby area - though the one used by Arthur and Elizabeth (if they did use an agency) may no longer exist.

You can apply for his Adoption Certificate as described below:

". . you can request a copy of an adoption record via the GRO’s website. To do so, you must register for a free account on the website, select 'Place an Order' from the options given, and fill in the form. You will need to know the adopted child’s current age or their age at death if they are deceased; the year in which the adoption was registered; their adoptive surname and forename; and their date of birth."
https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/tutorials/adoption/

But note -

"An adoption certificate will show only the adoptive details of a person and has no information that relates back to the corresponding birth entry"
https://deedpolloffice.com/change-name/law/birth-certificates

Also -
an Adoption Certificate is not the adoption record.
The adoption record (if it still exists) has all sorts of other info.

Info re adoption records here:
https://tinyurl.com/45tantx6

Scroll down to "What information might the records hold"

Gwyn your a diamond just going on there now and taking a look . And thankyou you lovely bunch, for all your help who have posted on my message i really do appreciate it. :-)

Ah, good to know, Gwyn!

Well remembered, Gwyn.

Christopher can start the searching process now

I've been hunting for this information, as I thought I remembered that there had been changes in legislation............

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/relatives-of-adopted-adults-now-able-to-trace-family-tree

Assuming his place and date of birth are correct, and assuming his birth mother was unmarried, there are eight possible births, which you can look up on FreeBMD:

Ball, Bartlett, Cox, Cutforth, Hall, Miles, Overy, and Tuson.

But there's no way of finding out which one (if any) might be your father.

Hiya yes on his passport it says from Grimsby

His passport should say where he was born.

Rose

Sadly, I have to agree that you will never know his birth name nor who his parents were.

As far as we can tell, he was not a blood relative of either Elizabeth or Arthur Dodd, but only adopted by them

Well thanks you guys for your help still having a load of fun doing this ad learning lots so thanks :-D

Unfortunately, his passport will have only the name he was known by when he applied for it

It would appear that he was adopted by Arthur and Elizabeth (nee Draper), but you need his marriage cert for confirmation, and even then you will not be able to find out his birth name

hi ladies wow you lot are good but all tha t information i dont no what to do with it or think of it or place it anywere im a total novice and feel totaly out my depth even though i appreciate everyone of you so here goes i have got my dads death record of the GRO index i thought that was an actual death certificate my bad ,i have one item of my dads i dont no if this makes any difference which is his passport :-S

Good point, Gwyn - assuming that the informant knew where he was born ;-) ;-)

Have you seen Martyn's death certificate or do you mean you have found the record in the GRO index?

By the time he died, place of birth was usually recorded on a death certificate.

As you have no idea of your father's birth name, you have no way of accessing his birth cert, I'm afraid.

Only he would have been allowed to access his adoption papers

Name: Arthur Dodd
Register Type: Cremation
Death Date: 30 Dec 1977
Burial or Cremation Date: 6 Jan 1978
Burial or Cremation Place: Lincolnshire, England


Deaths Dec 1977 (>99%)
DODD ARTHUR 4MY1915 GRIMSBY 7 499

Name: Arthur Dodd
Gender: Male
Death Age: 62
Birth Date: abt 1915
Death Date: 30 Dec 1977
Death Place: 2 Sandford Street Grimsby
Obituary Date: 30 Dec 1977
Obituary Place: Scunthorpe, Humberside, England
Newspaper Title: Scunthorpe Evening Telegraph
Spouse: Elizabeth

1939 Register
50 Rendel Street, Grimsby, Grimsby C.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England
Sarah Dodd 14 Sep 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 62 1
Arthur Dodd 04 May 1915 Male Wharf Labourer Single 62 2
Thomas Welbourn 27 Apr 1914 Male Wharf Labourer Single 62 3