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No help with the query - and I expect Delboy already knows, but posting just in case not:

Re the 5 children Jane's mother is said to have had by 1911 census:

She'd actually had six, but one had died:

SPARKS, OWEN mmn MCGHAN (died in infancy 1894 )
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 580


Catherine 1896, Eliza 1898, George 1900, Jane 1907, and Bessie (Elizabeth) 1910 already posted.

Bessie died in 1911, after the census.
Eliza married her step-brother James Fort in 1916, and died in 1976..
George married Theresa McWilliams in 1933, and died in 1950.
Catherine married Matthew Preece in 1919, and died in 1959


I would guess that Jane's father's name was Hargreaves, and Bessie's father was Hooper - but could well be wrong!

Thanks.

I didnt notice that George wasnt her father...it was someone called Arthur! hence why we would not be DNA matched.... makes sense there!

Dell boys head must be spinning with all this information. Bad enough when it is your own reasonably near family.

Have Zita or Lawrence got any descendants that could be asked to do a dna test? This could help eliminate some of the matches. I don’t know who you both tested with but Ancestry now splits the results into two - your parents lines.

Death
FORT Nicholas 48 1917 Burnley East Preston BUE/52/62

Burial: 25 Apr 1917 St Leonard, Padiham, Lancashire, England
Nicholas Fort -
Age: 48 years
Abode: 8 Royle Road, Burnley
Grave: 5~11~22
Buried by: William Donnelly
Register: Burials 1907 - 1923, Page 197, Entry 1576
Source: Original Parish Register


1921 Census Of England & Wales
49, Calder Vale Road, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Mary Fell Head Female 1874 47 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rag Sorter Papper Mill Paper Mill Co
William Fortune Son Male 1900 20 Burnley, England Paper Mill Paper Mill Co
Geraldine Frances Fortune Daughter Female 1903 18 Burnley, England Weaver Edward Tape Cotton Manufacturers
Hilda Mary Fortune Daughter Female 1917 3 Burnley, England - -
Margaret Fort Boarder Female 1874 47 Dublin, Ireland Waste Sorter Thon Watts Waste Manufacturers
Jane Sparks Boarder Female 1907 13 Burnley, England Tenter Weaver Suffiff & Clarham Cotton Manufacturers

George Sparks Head Married Male 30 1871 Coal trimmer Maryport, Cumberland, England
Margaret Sparks Wife Married Female 30 1871 - -
Cathe Sparks Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Maryport, Cumberland, England
Eliza Sparks Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Maryport, Cumberland, England
George Sparks Son Single Male 0 1901 - Maryport, Cumberland, England
Margaret A Finnigan Servant Single Female 18 1883 Domestic servt Maryport, Cumberland, England
John Sparks Boarder Single Male 54 1847 Carter Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
John Tremble Boarder Single Male 18 1883 Seaman Maryport, Cumberland, England



SPARKS, CATHERINE MCGANN
GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 648
SPARKS, ELIZA MCGANN
GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 627
SPARKS, GEORGE MCGANN
GRO Reference: 1900 S Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 657

Jane’s father was NOT George Sparks. He died well over a year before her birth.

That rules out any possibility of your being related by blood to George McVay's granddaughter

Also, read the notes added by the vicar on her baptism record, which I posted yesterday

Don’t worry too much about not matching your dna. I get matches that I share with a first cousin and / or her daughter that don’t match with my brother.

And yes, he is my full brother ;-)

It is all down to the unequal amounts of dna we inherit.

Jane Sparks father George Sparks was the illegitimate son of her grand mother Catherine Sparks.

Catherine Sparks brother Frederick Sparks is my 3 x Great Grandfather.

their parents are both our 4 x Great Grand Parents: George Sparks 1810 and Ellen Pedlow 1809

Who is the person with whom you think you share a heritage with George’s granddaughter?

She has come back to say it was wrong the date of death and it was 1984.

She has taken a DNA test but we dont appear to be a match which we should do as we share GGG grandparents. the family do not appear to know much about George's mother other than her name.

She is going to get his birth certificate to see who his mother is, i got a sense there is doubt about it. It might be George was adopted by Jane unofficially and the McVey on his birth cert might be a relative of her husband who had a child and she took her on. That may explain why we dont match DNA wise. Just guessing

I got that death date from my 5th cousin who is Georges grand daughter. I will see where she got it from.

Precisely why I questioned the OP’s statement

Jane died 1984 Burnley, as posted at bottom of page 1.

Same DOB as in 1939 Register.

OP says Jane died 1990………..anything to support this?

Thank you everyone for the replies. I will go through them!

1939 Register
5 Fir Street, Burnley, Burnley C.B., Lancashire, England
Margaret Fort 22 Mar 1871 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 129 1
Jane Hatch (Mcnay) 03 Oct 1907 Female Cotton Weaver Widowed 129 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.
Margaret Worstenhosme (Marsden) 22 Mar 1917 Female Domestic Servant Single 129 5


COOPER Jane HATCH Bertie 1968 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston BRM/41/7
HATCH Bertie COOPER Jane 1968 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston BRM/41/7
HATCH Bertie MCVAY Jane 1968 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston BRM/41/7
MCVAY Jane HATCH Bertie 1968 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston BRM/41/7

Marriages Mar 1893 (>99%)
McGann Margaret Cockermouth 10b 741
Sparks George Cockermouth 10b 741

George died 1902 registered Cockermouth district

FORT Nicholas MCGANN Margaret 1911 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/159/193
FORT Nicholas SPARKS Margaret 1911 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/159/193
MCGANN Margaret FORT Nicholas 1911 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/159/193
SPARKS Margaret FORT Nicholas 1911 Burnley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/159/193

SPARKS, JANE MCGANN
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 146

Here's Jane in 1939, with 2 closed records (presumably Zita and Lawrence ) , and name mistranscribed on Ancestry.
It's McVay on the image, when you know what you're looking for.:

Jane McNutt
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Jane McNutt [Jane Match] [Hatch ]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widow <<<<<<<<<<
Birth Date: 3 Oct 1907
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 5 Mary Street
Residence Place: Burnley, Lancashire, England
Occupation: Cotton Weaver
Line Number: 38
Schedule Number: 129
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: Nfaf
Borough: Burnley
Registration district: 472/1
Household Members (Name) Age
Margaret Fort 68
Jane McNutt 32
This record is officially closed. <<<<<<<<<
This record is officially closed. <<<<<<<<<<
Margaret Maroden 22




Marriages Mar 1968 (99%)
HATCH BERTIE MCVAY BURNLEY 10B 1708
MCVAY JANE HATCH BURNLEY 10B 1708


Deaths 1984 (>99%)
HATCH JANE 3OC1907 BURNLEY/PEN 40 1088

If, as expected, the birth certificate doesn’t give the fathers name the next step to consider is a DNA test which might give some clues.