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Hi I have been trying to find any records for George Hill, b Hanley, Staffordshire 1868 6b 182

Parents are George Hill/Ann Lloyd

1871 - 7 Nelson Place, Hanley, Staffordshire

1901 - possible 87 Church Street, Hanley.

Unable to confirm if he was married or had children or even confirm baptism.

I have tried GR, FMP, FREEREG, FREECEN. Any help is most welcome. Thanks.

What is his marital status in 1901?

It’s better to C&P the record, so that a fuller picture is available

Where was he in 1881 and 1891?

For info, his birth was registered AMJ

You may need to visit the County Records Office to look for a baptism - not all records are onlne

The best place to look for marriage info is freebmd…..
Or try Staffordshire records on UKBMD

There is a George Hill, born Hanley 1868 living in Newport, Mon in 1901

This is the George you mention in 1871 - how do you know this is the person you are looking for?

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Nelson Place, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Hill Head - Male 46 1825 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Ann Hill Wife - Female 45 1826 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William Hill Son - Male 20 1851 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Thirza Hill Daughter-in-law - Female 20 1851 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Martha Hill Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Alice Hill Daughter - Female - - - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Eliza Hill Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Emily Hill Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
George Hill Son - Male 3 1868 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Father George is an Engine ..? - at a coal Mine

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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HILL, GEORGE LLOYD
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 182

HILL, EMILY LLOYD
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 175

HILL, ELIZA LLOYD
GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 160

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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1846 (>99%)
Astbury Thomas Stoke On Trent 17 189
Brandell Elizabeth Stoke on Tr 17 189
Buxton Henry Stoke on Trent 17 189
Emery Lewis Stoke on T 17 189
Hill George Stoke on T 17 189 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Lloyd Ann Stoke on Trt 17 189 <<<<<<<
Morris Hannah Stoke on T 17 189
Ratcliff Elizabeth Stoke on T 17 189

Could this be George in 1881 - note Thirza Hill aged 30. It does say she's born Staffs rather than the Liverpool of 1871.

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
10, Stanley Terrace Bridge Road, Wavertree, West Derby, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Charlwood Head Married Male 42 1839 Cab owner cab proprietor Essex, England
Sarah Jane Charlwood Wife Married Female 33 1848 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England
William Percy Hill Adopted son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Stafford, Staffordshire, England
George Hill Brother in law Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Thirza Hill Sister in law Married Female 30 1851 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Frederic Hill Nephew Single Male 3 1878 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England
Charlwood Hill Nephew Single Male 0 1881 - Stafford, Staffordshire, England

Original only says born Staffordshire, it doesn't define Stafford

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This looks to be Thirza in 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Melville Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Hill Head Married Male 40 1851 Stationary engine driver Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Thirza Hill Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
William P Hill Son Single Male 18 1873 Waggoner in mine Hanley, Staffordshire, England
George Hill Son Single Male 16 1875 Waggoner in mine Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Fred Hill Son - Male 13 1878 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Bertram Hill Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HILL, WILLIAM PERCY NEWMAN
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 221

HILL, FREDERICK NEWMAN
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 188

HILL, CHARLWOOD NEWMAN
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 221

HILL, BERTRAM NEWMAN
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 195

The 1901 you mention:

George Hill
in the 1901 England Census
Name: George Hill
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Hanley
Ecclesiastical parish: Hanley St John
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stoke upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Hanley
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Neighbors:
Piece: 2599
Folio: 39
Page number: 22
Household schedule number: 129

He's stated to be single, and a butcher's salesman.


I can't see the 1901 record in Newport, which ErikaH mentions.

There's this one in 1911:

George Hill
 in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: George Hill
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Newport
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street Address: Alteryn Road Newport Mon
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 20 1/2
Estimated Marriage Year: 1891
Occupation: Labourer
Registration District: Newport
Registration District Number: 587
Sub-registration District: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Household Schedule Number: 333
Piece: 31965
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hill 43
L Thomas Hill 1
Lily Hill 38 - Liverpool
Daisey Hill 19
Arthur Hill 14
Albert Hill 9
May Hill 11
Austin Hill 12
Lily Hill 10
William Hill 6


HILL, ARTHUR mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 190


Daisy:

HILL, ANN mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 164


HILL, GEORGE AUSTIN mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 249

HILL, LILY mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1901 S Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 258

HILL, LLOYD THOMAS mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1910 M Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 248



George Austin Hill
in the Monmouthshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1551-1994
Name: George Austin Hill
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 1900
Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1900
Baptism Place: Newport St John Evangelist, Monmouthshire, Wales
Father: George Hill
Mother: Lily Hill


Ann Hill
in the Staffordshire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1900
Name: Ann Hill
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1892
Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1892
Baptism Place: Hanley, St Luke, Staffordshire, England
Religion: Anglican
Father: George Hill
Mother: Lilly Hill
Page number: 136


Can't see the family in 1901.

Shelton is an area of Stoke on Trent between Hanley and Stoke

Staffordshire Baptisms
Shelton, St Mark, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Martha
Country England
Last name Hill
Archive reference D4904/1/2
Baptism year 1859
Register type Baptism
Baptism date 10 Apr 1859
Page 4
Father's first name(s) George
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Denomination Anglican
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Place Shelton, St Mark
Collections from England, Great Britain
County Staffordshire

Original says George is a Miner

Also baptised same date was Alice

and on 13 October 1850, William was baptised. Father a Miner of Shelton

Eliza and Emily same date -

Staffordshire Baptisms
Hanley, St Luke, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Emily
Country England
Last name Hill
Archive reference D3726/1/1
Baptism year 1871
Register type Baptism
Baptism date 27 Feb 1871
Page 157
Father's first name(s) George
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Denomination Anglican
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Place Hanley, St Luke
Collections from England, Great Britain
County Staffordshire

From original - of Nelson Place. Father an engineer

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Hanover Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Hill Head Married Male 27 1824 Coal miner Shelton, Staffordshire, England
Ann Hill Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William Hill Son - Male 0 1851 - Shelton, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Lloyd Visitor Married Male 31 1820 Coal miner Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Mary Lloyd - Married Female 33 1818 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Lloyd Visitor's son - Male 7 1844 - Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Lloyd Visitor's son - Male 4 1847 - Bilston, Staffordshire, England

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Family in Shelton 1861 to fit those baptisms -

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
98, Etruria Road, Shelton, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Hill Head Married Male 36 1825 Coal miner Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Ann Hill Wife Married Female 35 1826 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William Hill Son - Male 10 1851 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Ann Hill Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Martha Hill Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Alice Hill Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Leek, Staffordshire, England

the Parish marriage of George Hill and Ann Lloyd

Staffordshire Marriages
Shelton, St Mark, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) George
Last name Hill
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Hill
Age Full Age
Place Shelton, St Mark
Denomination Anglican
Residence Shelton
Year 1846
Date 24 May 1846
Archive reference D4904/1/17
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Lloyd
Spouse's age Full Age
Spouse's residence Shelton
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Lloyd
County Staffordshire
Country England
Register type MarriagePage 187
Record set Staffordshire Marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

From original -
George is a Miner
Witnesses are William ? Hill and Sarah Hill

The Newport family in 1939:

George Hill
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: George Hill
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 3 Mar 1868
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 13
Residence Place: Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Occupation: Retired Brickworks Foreman
Line Number: 12
Schedule Number: 285
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Xnnr
Borough: Newport
Registration district: 587-2
Inferred Spouse:
Lily Hill
Inferred Children:
Daisy A Hill [ Ann Daisy Hill ]
Robert Hill
Household Members (Name) Age
George Hill 71
Lily Hill 71 - 12 July 1868
Daisy A Hill 46 - 4 Sept 1893
Robert Hill 7 - 18 Nov 1932


HILL, VICTOR CHARLES ROBERT -
GRO Reference: 1932 D Quarter in NEWPORT (MON.) Volume 11A Page 335

1901 -

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Alteryn Road, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Hill Head Married Male 33 1868 General labourer Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Lily Hill Wife Married Female 28 1873 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daisy Hill Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Arthur Hill Son - Male 4 1897 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Albert Hill Son - Male 3 1898 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Maggie M Hill Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
George A Hill Son - Male 0 1901 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

1921 Census Of England & Wales
Alteryn Cottages, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
George Hill Head Male 1868 53 Staffordshire, England Brickyard Labour Alteryn Brick Tile Terrer Cotter Comp
Lily Hill Mother Female 1872 48 Montreal, Quebec, Canada - Home Duties
Arthur Hill Son Male 1897 23 - Brickyard Labourer Alteryn B T T Copp
George Austin Hill Son Male 1900 21 - Brickyard Labourer Alteryn B T T Copp
William Hill Son Male 1905 16 - Not Occupied Invalide -
Dorothy Hill Daughter Female 1914 7 - - -

HILL, MAGGIE MAY mmn DAVIES
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in NEWPORT MON Volume 11A Page 176


???
In view of 1921 census posted above -

Lily Davies
in the Web: Montreal, Canada, non-Catholic Marriage Index, 1766-1899
Name: Lily Davies
Marriage Year: 1890
Marriage Place: Montreal, Québec (Quebec), Canada
Spouse: George Hill
Denomination: Anglican
Source: Centre d'archives de Montréal, CE601,S77
Page: 32

But 1901 and 1911 say Lily was born in Liverpool.

Possible deaths -

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

Deaths Mar 1947 (>99%)
Hill George 79 Newport 8c 312

Deaths Mar 1953 (>99%)
HILL Lily E 85 Newport 8c 243

To expand on the Canadian marriage posted by greyghost, the bride's parents are named as Thomas Davies and Mary Power

??????

Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%)
DAVIES Thomas Carmarthen 11a 704
Donald Michael Carmarthen 11a 704
Jones Margaret Carmarthen 11a 704
POWER Mary Carmarthen 11a 704

Unable at present to confirm who married whom....................

Greyghost - yes these are the children and the correct George b. 1868 -
George Hill Head - Male 46 1825 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Ann Hill Wife - Female 45 1826 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William Hill Son - Male 20 1851 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Thirza Hill Daughter-in-law - Female 20 1851 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Martha Hill Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Alice Hill Daughter - Female - - - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Eliza Hill Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
Emily Hill Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
George Hill Son - Male 3 1868 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England

The Thirza married to william (sibling of George) and children listed is also correct.

I have a possible George Hill in the 1901 as stated above at 87 Church Street Hanley working as a butcher salesman but I wasn't 100%.

Greyghost/ArgyllGran

the results for the wales connection are very interesting and do look like its the right George. Lily (wife) confusion on birth place which I would need certificates for. But looking at the time line it does suggest its the correct George

1871 - 7 Nelson Place, Hanley
1891 - Marriage to Lily
1893 - birth of first child - Daisy Hill Daughter - Female 8 1893 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England
1911- Alteryn Road, Newport
1939 register - George birth/occupation/dob looks right

well done ErikaH. Thankyou to everyone.

Finally what reservations would you have that would make the welsh link incorrect?