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Emigration to Australia from UK

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Ian

Ian Report 27 Oct 2022 12:08

Hi,
I am trying to find a family in Australia James H Bawer married Frances (Fanny) E Tune in 1942 in Don Valley. Fanny was born 1921 Worksop 1921
They Emigrated to Australia soon afterwards I have not found records of them leaving, where they stayed, Children or deaths.

I have all their parent's details etc just need their Australian details.
Thank you.
Ian

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2022 12:34

Where have you looked?

Birth and marriage are in the name FANNY. Second forename Elizabeth

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 Oct 2022 12:50

Emigrated shortly after a 1942 marriage.? Probably from 1946 onwards due to the war.

Added: according to Google there was mass emigration from 1945. Mostly on Assisted Passage. As those on AP only had to stay for a set number of years are you sure they didn’t return?

alviegal

alviegal Report 27 Oct 2022 13:37

Any details on James H Bawer?

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Oct 2022 14:19

Not seeing them under those names on Ships Passenger lists which go up to c 1960 online
nor on Electoral Rolls in Australia which go up to 1980 online (sure someone once said in Australia, you have to be on the ER"s after 2 years of arrival)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2022 15:19

The only record of the name James H Bawer on FMP is the marriage

Ian

Ian Report 27 Oct 2022 20:41

Thank you all for your kind help.

I spoke to an elderly family member tonight she said that Fanny was known as Frances?
and that she died in Australia a few years back and that she was in a care home but not sure where it was.
she does not remember who it was that told her about the death.

I have been searching for them for some time and have not found any Australian records so far
The one thing I don't have which might help me is a copy of the marriage cert for this couple
Ian

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Oct 2022 00:10

Perhaps BAwer is a mis-spelling??

There were two BOwer/Tune births:
1944 Doncaster, and 1950 Wharfedale.

I don't see a Bower/Tune marriage.

The 1950 child is now living in Sussex - per 1922 ER on GR, and 2010 ER on Ancestry. Was a policeman in Yorkshire at one time, from a Google search.


The 1944 child :

Births Jun 1944 (>99%)
Bower Adrian J Tune Doncaster 9c 1517


Adrian James Bower
in the Web: France, Death Records, 1970-2018
Name: Adrian James Bower
Gender: homme (Male)
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: 30 avr. 1944 (30 Apr 1944)
Birth Place: Doncaster, Royaume-Uni (United Kingdom)
Death Date: 22 févr. 2014 (22 Feb 2014)
Death Place: Creteil, Val-De-Marne, France
Certificate Number: 301

He had lived and worked in Fremantle at some stage:

https://www.facebook.com/120732064645094/photos/sad-news-professor-adrian-bower-first-dean-of-the-school-passed-away-suddenly-on/689873747730920/


"The first Medicine intake – over 80 graduate entry candidates – began their
course in January 2005. This new Medical School, under its Foundation Dean, Adrian Bower, and his deputy, Jenny McConnell, rapidly gained a reputation for the quality of its staff and curriculum. . ."
https://www.notredame.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0029/32789/Founding-and-Establishment-of-Notre-Dame-WEB.pdf

Ian

Ian Report 28 Oct 2022 02:50

WOW, ArgyllGran,

That is an amazing find and totally amazing research.

I will start in the morning checking your details.

WELL DONE top marks

Ian

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Oct 2022 10:57

Fanny's death:

BOWER, FRANCES ELIZABETH 1921
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/2015 in WEST SUSSEX (785-1J) Entry Number 512654079

Have PMd you links to articles about the 1950 child.


With the Sussex connection - maybe a possibility for James H's death???

BOWER, JAMES HARRY 1924
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/1997 in WORTHING (7864B) Reg 4B15C Entry Number 78

James Harry Bower
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: James Harry Bower
Death Age: 73
Birth Date: 6 May 1924
Registration Date: Dec 1997
Registration District: Worthing
Inferred County: West Sussex
Register Number: 4B15C
District and Subdistrict: 7864B
Entry Number: 78


James H Bower
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: James H Bower
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 6 May 1924
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 802
Residence Place: Croydon, Surrey, England
Occupation: At School
Line Number: 14
Schedule Number: 4
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: Clls
Borough: Croydon
Registration district: 39-2
Inferred Father:
William H Bower
Inferred Mother:
Mathilda Bower
Household Members (Name) Age
William H Bower 37 - 26 June 1902, traffic manager, travel agent, ARP Ambulance service
Mathilda [Mathilde on image] Bower 50 - 2 Oct 1889, wool shop manager
James H Bower 15
Celia H Bower 5
Walbrook K W Offermann 29


BOWER, CELIA HELEN mmn HOLLIGER
GRO Reference: 1934 J Quarter in CROYDON Volume 02A Page 792


BOWER, HARRY JAMES mmn HOLLIGER
GRO Reference: 1924 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 938

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Oct 2022 11:10

Parents' marriage:

Marriages Jun 1923 (>99%)
Bower William H Holliger St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 1018
Holliger Mathilde Bower St.Geo.H.Sq. 1a 1018


Possible William's birth ?? (Though doesn't fit with DOB stated in 1939.)

BOWER, WILLIAM HARRY mmn BERRY
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 499

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Oct 2022 11:31

Posting just to rule this out as William's birth, even though it would fit with DOB given in 1939 (I was thinking maybe reason for BAWER spelling) :

BAUER, WILLIAM mmn COWLEY
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in BROMLEY Volume 02A Page 528


William Bauer
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: William Bauer
Age: 0
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place: Bromley, Kent, United Kingdom
Death Date: Jun 1902
Inferred Death Place: Kent, United Kingdom
Volume: 2a
Page: 273


Mis-spelled on GRO:

BANER, WILLIAM 0
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in BROMLEY Volume 02A Page 273

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Oct 2022 11:57

Going back to the 1903 Hackney birth - NOT the right one.

Baptism record has a note saying DOB 18 Dec 1902.

William Harry Bower
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1923
Name: William Harry Bower
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Jan 1903
Baptism Place: St Bartholomew, Dalston, Hackney, England
Father: Thomas Alfred Bower
Mother: Emily Mary Bower
Register Type: Parish Register


Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
BERRY Emily Mary Shoreditch 1c 328
Bower Thomas Alfred Shoreditch 1c 328

That William H (18 Dec 1902) is in London in 1939 with wife Irene.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Oct 2022 12:00

James H with parents and another sister:

(Though of course we don't know if this is definitely the right James.
James and Fanny's marriage cert would give his father's name )

W. H. Harry Bower
in the Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934
Name: W. H. Harry Bower
Gender: männlich (Male)
Ethnicity/Nationality: Großbritannien (English)
Marital Status: verheiratet (Married)
Departure Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1902
Residence Place: London
Departure Date: 14. Jun 1928 (14 Jun 1928)
Departure Place: Hamburg, Deutschland (Germany)
Destination: Nordkap
Arrival Place: Nordkap; Hamburg
Occupation: Kaufmann
Ship Name: Oceana
Shipping Clerk: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerika Linie (Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft)
Ship Type: Dampfschiff, kein Auswandererschiff
Emigration: n
Accommodation: ohne Angabe
Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 356
Household Members (Name)
W. H. Harry Bower
W. H. Mathilde Bower - 30
James H. Bower - 5
Rosemary Bower - 3


BOWER, ROSEMARY BARBARA mmn HOLLIGER
GRO Reference: 1925 D Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 522