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Gerry
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25 Oct 2022 18:07 |
Georgina 21/4/1871 Manchester
Father George, a musician Mother Margaret Heaton
I cannot find any more info on Georgina's parents. Can you do any better than me please
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ErikaH
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25 Oct 2022 19:52 |
Where have you looked?
What is the source of the info you have posted?
How did you work back to this woman?
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nameslessone
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25 Oct 2022 20:21 |
Freebmd have a Georgina Campbell registered in Manchester 2nd quarter, there is no middle name.
Have you found them on any census from 1881 onwards as this should tell you where they came from.
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greyghost
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25 Oct 2022 22:18 |
A Campbell / Heaton daughter - Georgina only, no middle name
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: CAMPBELL, GEORGINA HEATON GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 292
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25 Oct 2022 22:34 |
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Baptism: 30 Apr 1871 St Chad, Cheetham, Lancashire, England Georgiana Campbell - filia Georgii Campbell & Margaritae (formerly Kellon) Born: 19 Apr 1871 Godparents: Joannes Howe; Anna Flatley Baptised by: Gulielmo Alfredo Burke, M. C. Register: Baptisms 1870 - 1880, Page 81 Source: Original Register
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greyghost
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25 Oct 2022 22:40 |
Is this" your" Georgina ?
Denbighshire Marriages And Banns Wrexham, Denbighshire, Wales
First name(s) Georgina Francis Last name Campbell Birth year 1871 Age 22 Marriage year 1893 Marriage date 27 Feb 1893 Marriage place Wrexham Father's first name(s) George Father's last name Campbell Spouse's first name(s) Silas Spouse's last name Carter Spouse's birth year 1869 Spouse's age 24 Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph Spouse's father's last name Carter County Denbighshire Country Wales Event Marriage Event type Marriages Event year range 1891-1896 Page 104
From original - Silas was a Musician of Lambpit Street, Wrexham. Father a Moulder
Georgina was of Cunliffe Street, Rhosddu (an area of Wrexham) George Campbell was a Musician
Witnesses - John Roberts and Mary Jane Roberts
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25 Oct 2022 22:48 |
?? Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: CARTER, GEORGINA CAMPBELL GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in DARLINGTON Volume 10A Page 7
--------------------------- ?? Georgina shown as Jennie
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 26, Orchard Street, Carlisle Botchergate, Carlisle, Cumberland, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Storey Head Married Male 70 1831 Shoe maker Dalston, Cumberland, England Catherine Storey Wife Married Female 73 1828 - Wigton, Cumberland, England John Geo Grant Grand son Single Male 17 1884 - Dalston, Cumberland, England Ronald A Grant Grand son Single Male 15 1886 - Carlisle, Cumberland, England Mary I Grant Grand daughter Single Female 10 1891 - Carlisle, Cumberland, England Peter Grant Grand son Single Male 8 1893 - Carlisle, Cumberland, England Silas Carter Visitor Married Male 32 1869 Living on own means Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Jennie Carter Visitor Married Female 29 1872 - Manchester, Lancashire, England Georgina Carter Visitor Single Female 1 1900 - Darlington, Durham, England
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Gerry
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26 Oct 2022 00:43 |
thank for your input
the info i have is from Georgiana's birth cert
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ArgyllGran
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26 Oct 2022 09:21 |
Does the birth cert give the middle name Frances? The GRO transcription doesn't.
What record have you found of the middle name?
Is the Georgina in the Denbighshire marriage posted by Greyghost the right person? And/or the Jennie in the 1901 census?
Just in case it turns out to be relevant - this is the marriage of the parents of the child baptised in Cheetham in 1871 - posted by Safc :
George Campbell in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1935 Name: George Campbell Gender: Male Marriage Age: 33 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1833 Marriage Date: 3 Jul 1866 Marriage Place: Bevington, St Alban, Lancashire, England Father: James Campbell Spouse: Margaret Keylow
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26 Oct 2022 09:48 |
For what it's worth - if anything -
Ancestry suggests this may be related to the George in Georgina Francis's marriage record - though this woman is 22 years older than Georgina, so possibly unlikely:
Susan Campbell in the Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 Name: Susan Campbell Gender: Female Marriage Age: 19 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1849 Marriage Date: 25 May 1868 Marriage Place: Manchester, St Thomas, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears: Manchester, St Thomas Father: George Campbell Spouse: John Garrity Reference Number: GB127.M330/3/2/1
The father George is a musician.
Susan Garrity in the 1871 Scotland Census Name: Susan Garrity Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Relationship: Wife Spouse's Name: John Garrity Gender: Female Where born: Haroeck [ Hawick ] , Roxburgh Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Central District Civil parish: Glasgow St Paul County: Lanarkshire Address: 13 Bell St Occupation: Vecalist [ vocalist ] ED: 28 Household schedule number: 79 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1871_123 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John Garrity 22 Boarder Susan Garrity 20 Wife Eliza Garrity 2 Daur (Daughter) George Garrity 11mo Son
George Campbell in the 1851 Scotland Census Name: George Campbell Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Ayrshire Parish Number: 789 Civil Parish: Hawick Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish Town: Hawick County: Roxburghshire Address: Backrow Occupation: Feddler [ could be "Fiddler" - though maybe Peddler/pedlar ] ED: 10 Page: 16 Household Schedule Number: 48 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1851_201 Household Members: Name Age George Campbell 23 Margaret Campbell 20 Susan Campbell 3 Mary Ann Campbell 2 (not transcribed) 8 Mo (male)
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greyghost
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26 Oct 2022 10:43 |
If the date of birth as per certificate is correct, then the baptism posted yesterday by safc can't be right as it says that Georgiana was born on 19th (unless that's a mistake)
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Gwyn in Kent
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26 Oct 2022 10:44 |
As the baptism posted was in Latin, may be Frances was an additional name chosen and added, when the child was confirmed ?
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ErikaH
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26 Oct 2022 12:11 |
Gerry
Please clarify exactly which documented info you have in your possession.
The precise wording would also be useful
The woman who married in February 1893 aged 22 would not have been born as late as April 1871, if she knew her age accurately.
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Gerry
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26 Oct 2022 12:16 |
The "Frances" only occurs in her marriage
The birth Cert is difficult to read
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26 Oct 2022 12:22 |
Erikah
Georgina's birth cert
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ErikaH
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26 Oct 2022 12:30 |
What was the address on the birth cert?
Who registered the birth?
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Gerry
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26 Oct 2022 12:32 |
113 Charter Street Manchester
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Gerry
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26 Oct 2022 12:33 |
the mother
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26 Oct 2022 12:38 |
The census date was 2nd April for 1971. A bit close to the birth. Would they have moved so quickly so as to not be on the 1871 census.? A bit tough on the mother.
I assume the birth certificate implies the parents were married. I couldn’t find that.
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ErikaH
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26 Oct 2022 12:40 |
The address she gives when she marries is Cunliffe Street, RhosDdu. No-one named Campbell is living there in 1891
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