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My goodness, this is absolutely amazing ErikaH, THANK YOU! Wow, some wonderful names in there indeed :-) So interesting to see members of the Hoare family in all that information, I knew many Hoares from the Selborne area growing up and are still in touch with several of them. I wonder if we are related! Thank you so much once again, I hugely appreciate your efforts :-)

A wonderful name!!

CAIN, YPRES LACATLE HOARE
GRO Reference: 1920 J Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 384

Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%)
Cain Hori Alton 2c 393
Hoare Kate Ann Alton 2c 393

Other children
CAIN, ANN ELIZABETH MAUD HOARE
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 186
CAIN, KATHLEEN KATE LOUISA HOARE
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 157
CAIN, HORI THOMAS HOARE
GRO Reference: 1907 D Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 159
CAIN, MABEL FLORENCE HOARE
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 169
CAIN, VIOLET RHODA HOARE
GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 363
CAIN, RONALD HOARE
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 170


Marriages Dec 1944 (>99%)
CAIN Betty Skipper Hendon 3a 1482
CAIN Ypres L Skipper Hendon 3a 1482
SKIPPER Noel J Cain Hendon 3a 1482

Skipper
Ypres Betty
1920
2002
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
West Surrey, Surrey, England
Was in Haslemere on 2002 ER as Ypres L

Skipper
Noel John
1913
1984
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Surrey South Western, Surrey, England

Moving forward with the line of one random female

Name: Rebecca Norman
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Alton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 357
Records on Page:
John Cain
Rebecca Norman

1891
Selborne, Alton, Hampshire, England
John Cain Head Married Male 46 1845 Bricklayers labourer London, Middlesex, England
Rebecca Cain Wife Married Female 35 1856 - Selborne, Hampshire, England
Ernest Norman Son - Male 15 1876 Agricultural labourer Selborne, Hampshire, England
Horie T Cain Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Selborne, Hampshire, England
Leonard Cain Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Selborne, Hampshire, England
Harriet Cain Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Selborne, Hampshire, England
Henry Cain Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Selborne, Hampshire, England
Edward Cain Son - Male 1 1890 - Selborne, Hampshire, England

Name: Henry Herbert Cain
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1888
Birth Place: Selbourne, Hampshire, England
Age: 24
Document Year: 1912
Regimental Number: 1700
Regiment Name: Hampshire Regiment
Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation
Name Relation to Soldier
Henry Herbert Cain Self (Head)
John Cain Father
Rebecca Cain Mother

CAIN, HENRY BERNARD NORMAN
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 151


Name: Henry B Cain
Death Age: 60
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Registration District: New Forest
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 445

Marriages Dec 1934 (>99%)
Cain Henry B Ham Alton 2c 530
Ham Ivy W L Cain Alton 2c 530

1939
Cottage On Hill, Selborne, Alton R.D., Hampshire, England
Henry B Cain 12 May 1887 Male Bricklayer's Labourer Married 156 1
Ivy W L Andrews (Cain) 25 Dec 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 156 2

3 closed records - find births on freebmd using both surnames....also 4 later ones

Ivy's re-marriage

Marriages Dec 1953 (>99%)
ANDREWS Charles CAIN Alton 6b 122
CAIN Ivy W L ANDREWS Alton 6b 122

Deaths Mar 1963 (>99%)
ANDREWS IVY W L 50 ALTON 6B 85

One of the Cain/Ham children

Births Sep 1935 (>99%)
Cain Sarah H M Ham Alton 2c 281


Cain
Sarah Helen Maud
1935
1935
Hampshire Burials
Selborne, Hampshire, England


Another

Births Dec 1941 (>99%)
Cain Reginald P Ham Alton 2c 402

Marriages Mar 1965 (>99%)
CAIN Reginald P WILLARD Alton 6b 177
WILLARD MARGARET A CAIN Alton 6b 177

Cain
Reginald Peter
1941
1994
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Winchester, Hampshire, England

Cain
Margaret Ada
1945
2004
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Winchester, Hampshire, England

CAIN, EDWARD RONALD NORMAN
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 154
CAIN, HORI THOMAS NORMAN
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 155

Rebecca's child born before her marriage

NORMAN, ERNEST JOHN -
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 0

This is all incredible, thank you so much! I have a LOT of family tree building to do! To think I thought we were a small family :-)

Hori Norman
in the UK, World War I Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
View Original Image on Fold3.
Name: Hori Norman
Rank: Pte
Record Type: Card
Residence Place: Selborne Alton Hants
Discharge Date: 25 Sep 1918
Service Number: 109876
Corps, Regiment or Unit: 2/C R.a.f
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Survived
Reference Number: 11.w.48705, 11/M/57541
Next of Kin:
Name Relation to Soldier
Hori Norman




Re Charles Norman, who is on the 1881 and 1891 censuses posted by ErikaH:

Nor?? [Charles Norman on image ]
in the UK, British Army World War I Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Nor??
Gender: Male
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 4
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Nor?? Self (Head)
Hori Norman Grandfather [ NOK ]

Attested 21 November 1896.
Had previously been in Hants Militia.
Age 21yrs 6 mths., birthplace Selborne.
Occupation: carter.
5ft 11.5 ins; fresh complexion, blue eyes, brown hair.

Served in South Africa, 29/11/1899 - 28/11/1900.
Discharged 25 Sept 1901, having been found medically unfit for further service.
Awarded South Africa Medal, with clasps for Paardeberg, Driefontein, Wittebergen, Relief of Kimberley, and Transvaal.



Charles Norman's birth was illegitimate:

NORMAN, CHARLES FREDERICK -
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in ALTON Volume 02C Page 157

Hampshire Burials
Selborne, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Hori
County Hampshire
Last name Norman
Country England
Birth year 1829
Page 127
Age at death 75
Record set Hampshire Burials
Burial year 1904
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial date 15 Jan 1904
Subcategory Parish Burials
Residence Sel
Collections from Great Britain, England
Place Selborne

Hampshire Burials
Selborne, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Henry
County Hampshire
Last name Norman
Country England
Birth year 1852
Page 131
Age at death 74
Record set Hampshire Burials
Burial year 1926
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial date 18 Feb 1926
Subcategory Parish Burials
Residence Sel
Collections from Great Britain, England
Place Selborne

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Hampshire Burials
Selborne, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Esther
County Hampshire
Last name Norman
Country England
Birth year 1853
Page 129
Age at death 62
Record set Hampshire Burials
Burial year 1915
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial date 18 Jul 1915
Subcategory Parish Burials
Residence Dowlings
Collections from Great Britain, England
Place Selborne

Hampshire Burials
Selborne, Hampshire, England

First name(s) Ellen
County Hampshire
Last name Norman
Country England
Birth year 1829
Page 127
Age at death 70
Record set Hampshire Burials
Burial year 1899
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial date 17 Jun 1899
Subcategory Parish Burials
Residence Sel
Collections from Great Britain, England
Place Selborne

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Just in case there's a family relationship between the Kemp's and Norman's

Hampshire Marriages
Selborne

First name(s) George
Bride's first name Elizabeth
Last name Kemp
Bride's last name Fry
Marriage day 5
Bride's notes -
Marriage month Jun
County Hampshire
Marriage year 1797
Country England
Place Selborne
Record set Hampshire Marriages
Parish Selborne
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Groom's first name George
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Groom's last name Kemp
Collections from England, Great Britain
Groom's notes -

Hampshire Genealogical Society
Transcriptions © Hampshire Genealogical Society

There are 2 transcriptions of the OPR on FMP - the other has the date as 3rd

First name(s) Hori
Archive reference MSS.78/OB/4/2/20
Last name Norman
Title Annual Reports
Birth year -
Record type Excluded
Admission year -
Report Annual Report
Age -
Dates 1919-1920
Trade Bricklayers
No of volumes 1
Union name Operative Bricklayers' Society
World War 1 records List of members on active service
Union branch Alton
Information included Lists of members of 50 years standing, lists of excluded members, branch auditors, lists of committee members
Union branch as transcribed Alton
Record set Britain, Trade Union Membership Registers
County Hampshire
Category Education & work
Country England
Subcategory Guild & Trade Associations
Archive Modern Records Centre
Collections from Great Britain, England

Name: Hori Norman
Death Date: 14 Oct 1930
Death Place: Hampshire, England
Probate Date: 6 Jul 1933
Probate Registry: Oxford, England
Probate to Elizabeth Amy, Widow.
Effects £421 10s

Norman
Hori
1876
—
18/10/1930
Hampshire Burials
Selborne, Hampshire, England

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Selborne Street, Selborne, Alton, Hampshire, England
George Keemp Male 67 1774 Hampshire, England
Elizabeth Keemp Female 67 1774 Hampshire, England
Hori Norman Male 13 1828 -

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Selborne Street, Selborne, Alton, Hampshire, England
Hori Norman Head Married Male 22 1829 Bricklayers labourer Selborne, Hampshire, England
Ellen Norman Wife Married Female 23 1828 - Selborne, Hampshire, England
George Norman Son - Male 1 1850 - Selborne, Hampshire, England


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Selborne Hill, Selborne, Alton, Hampshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Hori Norman Head Married Male 54 1827 Bricklayer Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ellen Norman Wife Married Female 53 1828 - Selborne, Hampshire, England
Rose Norman Daughter Single Female 26 1855 - Selborne, Hampshire, England
Charles F Norman Grand son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Selborne, Hampshire, England
Louisa M Norman Daurs child Single Female 0 1881 - Selborne, Hampshire, England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Selborne, Alton, Hampshire, England
Hori Norman Head Married Male 63 1828 Stone mason At Sea
Ellen Norman Wife Married Female 62 1829 - Selborne, Hampshire, England
Charles Norman Grandson Single Male 15 1876 Agricultural labourer Selborne, Hampshire, England

Norman
Hori
1829
—
15/01/1904
Hampshire Burials
Selborne, Hampshire, England

Thank you all so much! Have removed date of birth also, thank you ErikaH. Apologies, I'm rather new at all this but it's all very exciting, I look forward to learning more :-)

When using FamilySearch (link in GG's post above), search in "Records", and NOT "Family Tree".

Records are actual records.
Family Trees are just what other people have put on their trees - but not everyone researches accurately, and trees frequently have mistakes.

Other people's trees may help to point you in the right direction, but always check out the records for yourself, and don't assume the tree is correct.

Another free site where if you don't have access via any of the genealogy sites, you'll find England census records, amongst many other records including baptisms, marriages, burials -

https://www.familysearch.org

It's well worth you finding your way around these free sites.

Others, although not necessarily complete, include -

https://www.freecen.org.uk (census records)
https://www.freereg.org.uk (parish records)

Looking at the image of the 1939 Register posted by Greyghost - there is no closed record with Owen and Thelma.

That's a mistake on FMP.

Jacqueline
For your own security, please delete your date of birth. You have posted on here all the info needed for identity theft.

Oh my goodness, this is all absolutely amazing, thank you! This is definitely my family, my grandmother was Thelma Mabel Pavitt. This is really fantastic, thank you so much! I had no idea there were so many resources available, it's fascinating. I really appreciate you taking the time to look all this up!

Ancestry trees have Hori and Ellen's marriage certificate. He is a Bricklayer of Selborne, s/o George Norman a soldier.
Ellen is also of Selbourne, d/o William Cannons a Labourer.\
Witnesses are Eli and Elizabeth Christmas (Eli married Elizabeth Cannon 1838 Alton RD)