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Poster has accessed all the info I added..........and acknowledged it.

https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/1991220/southern-cemetery

Put in surname Singleton, year 1945 and you will see that John and Lilian are in the same grave

PM sent 1st Oct asking poster to return. Opened………

Births Sep 1943 (>99%)
Singleton John A Percy Salford 8d 599

Deaths Jun 1945 (>99%)
Singleton John A 1 Manchester 8d 339

Name: John Anthony Singleton
Age: 20/12
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1943
Death Date: abt 1945
Burial Date: 16 Apr 1945
Burial Place: Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Cemetery: Southern Cemetery
Cemetery Section: G
Grave Number: 1424


Name: Lilian Mary Singleton
Death Date: 13 Dec 1945
Cemetery: Southern Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Chorlton-Cum-Hardy, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England

PERCY, LEONARD 1922 (21 Jan)
GRO Reference: DOR Q3/1992 in SALFORD (0111C) Volume 39 Page 724

Birth confirms that 1939 birth year is inaccurate

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Percy Leonard Bulmer Chorlton 8c 1496


Name: Leonard Percy
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun 1945
Registration District: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Spouse: Gladys Pendleton
Volume Number: 8d
Page Number: 1284


Name: Gladys Percy
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: 20 Mar 1923
Registration Date: Feb 1992
Registration District: Salford
Inferred County: Greater Manchester
Volume: 39
Page: 1089

Three sons - births on freebmd. You will have to find them yourself, as they are too recent to post on here

Name: Walter David Percy
Birth Date: 10 May 1920
Birth Place: Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Death Date: 6 May 1988
Death Place: Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England
Cemetery: Southern Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Chorlton-Cum-Hardy, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England

1939 Register
3 Granville Street, Manchester, Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England
Caroline Clarke 26 Aug 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 90 1 Head
George Clarke 08 Jun 1919 Male Bottler At Brewery Single 90 2 Son
Walter Percy 10 May 1920 Male Builder's Labourer Married 90 3 Unknown
Doris Percy 31 Jul 1920 Female Overall Machinist Married 90 4

Marriages Sep 1939 (>99%)
Clarke Doris Percy Manchester 8d 1027
Percy Walter Clarke Manchester 8d 1027

Look for births of children on freebmd


PERCY, DORIS 1920
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2008 in WIGAN & LEIGH (0181D) Reg 1D003 Entry Number 500828886

Lilian was born in 1924 Leonard may have died before 1939 as he is deceased on Marriage cert

I only got Leonards name from the Marriage cert so been looking since to try to find out bit more of Lilians family

Hi Erikah i have found the board, god lot of stuff on there lol, you ask what i have got info wise. I have obtained Lilian's marriage and death certificate and this is where i got Leanard's name from, you see my dad married Lilian in 1943 my dad was 17 and Lilian was 18 Lilian and my dad had a child both Lilian and their child died in 1945 of T.B. The marriage certificate shows her father as Learnard Percy "Deceased" This was never talked about in my family and my dad married my mum in 1947 so i am intrigued as to who Lilian was and her son ( my half brother) also i would like to find out their graves as thought would be fitting to scatter some of my dad's ashes there. So really this is all i have Lilian was 18 years old when she died which was December 18th 1945

PERCY, WALTER DAVID BULMER
GRO Reference: 1920 J Quarter in MANCHESTER Volume 08D Page 502

PERCY, LEONARD BULMER
GRO Reference: 1922 M Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 1496

PERCY, LILIAN BULMER
GRO Reference: 1924 J Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 1414

Births Sep 1927 (>99%)
Percy Joan Bulmer Manchester S. 8d 323

Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
Percy Kathleen Bulmer Manchester S. 8d 300


Births for Percy/ Bulmers.

It looks as though the poster has picked up on, or been steered towards, the wrong line.

There is this Leonard born at Rigby Street.

Baptism: 11 Aug 1901 St Stephen, Salford, Lancashire, England
Leonard Percy - [Child] of Thomas Percy & Mary Elizabeth
Born: 30 Jun 1901
Abode: 16 Rigby St.
Occupation: Packer
Baptised by: H. Thompson Jones
Register: Baptisms 1901 - 1920
Source: LDS Film 1408728


I think this is him in 1921, with Thomas, Mary E. and Edith.


Leonard
Percy
1901
Salford, Lancashire, England
Stretford
Barton upon Irwell
Lancashire



ADDED and here in 18 Rigby Street (which you've already posted ErikaH)

1911 Census For England & Wales
18 Rigby St Salford, Salford, Lancashire, England
View original record
Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Percy Head
Married Male 43 1868 Hydralic packer Lancashire Salford
Mary Elizabeth Percy Wife
Married Female 42 1869 - Lancashire Salford
Edith Percy Daughter
Single Female 19 1892 Cloth hooker Lancashire Salford
Albert Edward Percy Son
Single Male 17 1894 Type writer Lancashire Salford
Elsie Percy Daughter
- Female 14 1897 Pattern card room hand Lancashire Salford
Leonard Percy Son
- Male 9 1902 School Lancashire Salford
Harriet Evans Mother in law
Widow Female 69 1842 - Lancashire Salford

1921

Leonard
Percy
1898
Stretford, Lancashire, England
South Manchester
Chorlton
Lancashire


Isabel
Percy
1900
Scotland
South Manchester
Chorlton
Lancashire


Walter
Percy
1920
Stretford, Lancashire, England
South Manchester
Chorlton
Lancashire

Wondered about that death……fits with age in 1921

His death?

First name(s) Leonard G
District Manchester South
Last name Percy
County Lancashire
Gender Male
Volume 8D
Birth day -
Page 290
Birth month -
Country England
Birth year 1897
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age 34
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 4
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1931

EDIT
Seemingly the G stands for Gabriel and he was buried in the Catholic part of the cemetery.

Name: Leonard Gabriel Percy
Death Date: 3 Oct 1931
Cemetery: Southern Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Chorlton-Cum-Hardy, Metropolitan Borough of Manchester, Greater Manchester, England
Has Bio?: N
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156608634/leonard-gabriel-percy


Possible birth

PERCY, LEONARD MURPHY
GRO Reference: 1898 S Quarter in BARTON UPON IRWELL Volume 08C Page 718


Possible family.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
8, New Street, South Manchester, Chorlton, Lancashire, England
View original record
Household members (4 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Percy Head
Married Male 28 1873 Carter corporation Manchester, Lancashire, England
Kate Percy Wife
Married Female 28 1873 - Ireland
Leonard Percy Son
Single Male 2 1899 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
Millicent Percy Daughter
Single Female 0 1901 - Manchester, Lancashire, England


1911 Census For England & Wales
93 Silver St Hulme Manchester, South Manchester, Lancashire, EnglandView original record
Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Alfred Percy Head
Married Male 37 1874 Corporation employee Lancashire Manchester
Catherine Percy Wife
Married Female 37 1874 - Dublin Resident
Leonard Percy Son
- Male 13 1898 - Lancashire Manchester
Joseph Percy Son
- Male 10 1901 - Lancashire Manchester
Mary Madiline Percy Daughter
- Female 7 1904 - Lancashire Manchester
William Percy Son
- Male 4 1907 - Lancashire Manchester
John Francis Percy Son
- Male 2 1909 - Lancashire Manchester

Clearly, the father of Lilian was not the child at Rigby Street

It needs to be established whether Isabel was a widow when she re-married.

1911 Census For England & Wales
15 Hampton Place Hulme Manchester, South Manchester, Lancashire, England

Household members (7 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Walter Bulmer Head
Married Male 32 1879 Railway shunter Yorkshire
Jeannie Bulmer Wife
Married Female 36 1875 - Scotland
>>Isabel Bulmer Daughter
Single Female 10 1901 - Scotland
Lizzie Bulmer Daughter
Single Female 8 1903 - Lancashire
Jeannie Bulmer Daughter
Single Female 6 1905 - Lancashire
Annie Bulmer Daughter
Single Female 3 1908 - Lancashire
Florrie Bulmer Daughter
Single Female 1 1910 - Lancashire


and possible 1901.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pretoria Place, Glasgow Road, Wishaw, Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Household members (2 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Walker Balmer Lodger
Married Male 22 1879 Electrician England
Jeanie Balmer Lodger
Married Female 26 1875 - Mossend, Lanarkshire, Scotland

From this free to search site. You need to Register.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Birth -
??Surname Forename Mother's Maiden Name Gender Year Ref RD Name
BULMER ISABELLA F 1901 639/ 988 Dalziel

If you want to look at the birth certificate you'll need to buy credits (30 for £7.50) and use 6 of them to download it. SP doesn't show Mother's maiden name

Possibly marriage of her parents going by RD - again you can use credits to look at and download the certificate

Surname Forename Spouse Surname Spouse Forename Year Ref RD Name Image View
BULMER WALTER MORRISON JANE 1900 639/ 283 Dalziel

Note first name of Groom

First name(s) Last name Birth year Birth place Parish Registration district County
Isabel Percy 1900 Scotland South Manchester Chorlton Lancashire

1921 Census Of England & Wales transcript
Isabel, Leonard and Walter are on this record


Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Percy Walter D Bulmer Manchester 8d 502

1921 census is available on Find My Past - no need to be member to Search results and then pay to look at transcript or original

Welcome to the boards Michael.

Michael's surname is Singleton

Lillian Singleton (Percy) in 1939

1939 Register
9 Tatton Street, Heywood, Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number Relationship
Isabel Davison 28 Jul 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 20 1 Head
Robert Davison 20 Dec 1910 Male Colliery Haulage Hand Under Ground Married 20 2 Husband
Leonard Percy 21 Jan 1921 Male Chemical Worker Drier And Colour Single 20 3 Unknown
Lillian Singleton (Percy) 10 Jun 1924 Female Cotton Spinner Single 20 4 Unknown
Thomas Charlmton 05 Sep 1909 Male Colliery Haulage Worker Underground Single 20 5 Unknown
Thomas Davison 03 May 1939 Male None Under The School Age Single 20 6 Son

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Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1933 (>99%)
Davison Robert Percy Manchester S. 8d 323
PERCY Isabel Davison Manchester S. 8d 323

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Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1939 (>99%)
Davison Thomas Bulmer Manchester 8d 114