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So her father wasn’t ‘Rev’ :-\ :-\

No I misread the rev.

I know she left Tony Simmons around 1959 & believe moved to Maidstone & ran a shop with a man that all I've been told is Len so could be Leonard I guess, but have yet to find a marriage after 1959 that has a spouse name starting Len/ Leonard under her maiden name or first marriage name so I'm going to take it she never married, just strange I can't find a death record for her in either of those names but know she defo stayed in the Kent area & died about age 56/57 so would be about 1984 ????

As I suggested earlier, if you knew her DoB, you could make a more informed seacrh

In the period 1982-88, these are the only deaths in Kent of a Margaret with no middle name, and whose birth would have been registered in the last quarter of 1928:

Deaths 1988
RADBURN MARGARET 25SE1928 THANET 16 1529

Deaths 1985
HUNT MARGARET 21NO1928 CHATHAM 16 582


HOWEVER -
Margaret Hunt might have been nee Herron.
Margaret Radburn might have been unmarried and born in Croydon.
We don't know where your Margaret died - maybe not in Kent.


If she didn't remarry, and moved away from Kent, there's this death:

Deaths 1985 (>99%)
PALMER MARGARET 21OC1928 ROCHDALE 39 402

Probably all red herrings - but posting just in case.

Are you sure the son died in 2014 because that’s a Malcolm John on the record

Her son was only registered as Malcolm

There is a Malcolm John too reg 1946 in East Sussex different family

Name: Malcolm J Simmons
Registration Date: Jul 1946
[Aug 1946]
[Sep 1946]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Uckfield
Inferred County: East Sussex
Mother's Maiden Name: Staplehurst
Volume Number: 5h
Page Number: 504

Probably this family

Marriages Mar 1929
Simmons Arthur A Staplehurst Uckfield 2b 253
STAPLEHURST Alice M Simmons Uckfield 2b 253


So he is the one who died in 2014

Would this be her

Name: Margaret Simmons
Death Age: 58
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1928
Registration Date: Mar 1987
Registration District: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 822


Or maybe not !
Name: Margaret Hayward
[Margaret Simmons]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1928
Residence Date: 1939
Address: The Bungalow
Residence Place: Whitstable, Kent, England
Occupation: At School
Line Number: 21
Schedule Number: 117
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: Dizf
Borough: Whitstable
Registration district: 59/2
Inferred Father:
Charles Hayward
Inferred Mother:
Lena Hayward
Household Members Age
Charles Hayward
50
Lena Hayward
49
Margaret Hayward 11
This record is officially closed.

It would be helpful if you gave some idea of how you come to be connected to this woman - might give us a ‘handle’

Margaret was my best friends Grandmother but unfortunately due to family circumstances she never got to meet her. Her dad was Malcolm John Simmons who passed away in 2014 & unfortunately she never asked him questions about her Grandmother. She was told by her mum that Margaret had left Tony Simmons when Malcolm was 13 so would be around 1959. Also been told that she had married Len/Leonard & ran a shop in Maidstone &stayed in Kent upto her death but as we can't find a marriage its looking more like she just lived with him. My friend believes she was around the age of 56ish when she passed,so the record that's been found above could be her in 1987. This is all the information she has been told so we don't have an exact birth date for Mararet all we know was she was17 when she married Tony in 1945.
Thank you all for your help :-)

Anna

You can look up Margaret’s birth on freebmd and get the references you need then you can buy the certificate from the GRO to learn her actual birthdate.

It might be worth looking at the Kent newspapers on the British Newspapers archives to see if there is anything on there to help.

Anna -

As Shirley pointed out, the Margaret Simmons who died in 1987 was most likely born Margaret Hayward. At least, they both have the same date of birth.

This is presumably her marriage:

Marriages Sep 1950 (>99%)
Hayward Margaret Simmons Bridge 5b 121
Simmons Tom Hayward Bridge 5b 121



Does your friend have her father's birth cert? As already said, he doesn't appear to have had a middle name at birth.

Margaret's birth has been posted on here a couple of times - use the info to get a copy cert and thus learn the exact DoB.

SIMMONS, MALCOLM JOHN 1946
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2020 in BARKING AND DAGENHAM (218-1) Entry Number 521169815

The probable sister.....................

Name: Joyce A Palmer
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1947
Registration District: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Spouse: Douglas Jackson
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 684

Name: Douglas Jackson
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 1 Sep 1918
Registration Date: Oct 1994
Registration District: Chatham
Inferred County: Kent
Register Number: B22A
District and Subdistrict: 5611B
Entry Number: 128


PALMER, JOYCE ANNIE
GRO Reference: 1925 J Quarter in MEDWAY Volume 02A Page 1325

Seems to be on ER to 2010................house not recorded as having been sold

Possible births to the couple on freebmd.

The eldest is on the ER in Kent in 2002 - the address has not been sold since then according to Zoopla, but that needs to be verified, of course