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Maybe he didn't marry Ethel afterall,, Its seems such a popular name that its difficult to find the correct people, I'm grateful for everyones help. Not sure what happened to his first wife if his second family were allowed to live in her house and remain there even after William had walked out on Ethel. She left the house in the 1950's. This might be an unresolved story. But thank you to all who have searched for the family and Shirley-I,m getting the hang of it for looking at 1921. I think John W. Cooper died 1922 .. I think I'll stop looking - at least for the time being as William became a salesman/rep so he could have other 'wives' and possible offspring elsewhere ;-) THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR SEARCHING.

There’s a John cooper and Emma and maud on the 1921 Birmingham on the 1921

1921 Census Of England & Wales transcript
Person with no specified gender
John, Emma, Maud and 1 other are on this record
Sample Record transcript
A legible translation of the original record
Shows every occupant’s age, family role and where available, profession
Contains a map showing the local area at the time


Births Mar 1921
Cooper John W Chiswell King's N. 6d 68

Seems like they didn’t marry though

Thank you for trying to help, unfortunately my friend doesn’t know the first wife’s name or the death year for William as he walked out of the house one day and didn’t return leaving Ethel and the youngsters

What was the name of William’s first wife? When did she die?

When did William die?

Re the 1926 marriage suggested by Greyghost:

William Charles Cooper
in the Bristol, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937
Name: William Charles Cooper
Marriage Age: 44
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1882
Marriage Date: 5 Jun 1926
Marriage Place: Fishponds, St Johns, Bristol, England
Parish as it Appears: St.John the Divine
Father: Albert Cooper
Spouse: Ethel Cooper

Not the right one, unfortunately.

That Ethel Cooper was a spinster, aged 35, and her father was Charles Cooper.

Ethel May's father was named William.

The 1921 birth was registered in King’s Norton - the two later ones in Shipston (on Stour)

I’ve done a quick search of the 1921, and I can’t see Ethel, William or the child registered 1921 (John)

Thank you, apologies as I've just remembered the 1921 census is . pay for each search' . sorry .
I'm trying to help a friend sort her relative out as she wasn't sure if Cooper and Chiswell were married at the time they were living in Bristol because they were apparently living in Williams first wifes house. So a big thank you for the information you've given - you've saved me a search too as had just clicked onto the 1939 register. A big thank you greyghost

Everyone can access the 1921 census, and everyone has to pay.

When and where did they marry?

I know this isn't the 1921 you're looking for but trying for clues

3 children birth reg's Cooper mmn Chiswell 1921, Hugh C 1923,1925

1939 Register
46 Franklyn Street, Bristol, Bristol C.B., Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Ethel Cooper 25 Nov 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 317 1
The record for this person is officially closed.
Hugh C Cooper 15 Oct 1923 Male Wood Sawyer Single 317 3
Male

Ethel May Chiswell birth Reg Q4 Birmingham

When did she marry?

?????? Is this her marriage already known as Cooper (as you mention Bristol)

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%)
Cooper Ethel Cooper Bristol 6a 219
Cooper William C Cooper Bristol 6a 219

Lynnedee

The 1821 census is not free to anyone. Everyone has to pay for downloads.

You can have a look for yourself on Find my past and then decide if you need to get the download.

Does anyone have access to the 1921 Census please and if so could they look up Ethel May Cooper - nee Chiswell born Birmingham 1889 and William Charles Cooper born c1873, believed to have been born in B'ham also. It may be a Bristol address. Many thanks if someone can help.