Hello All
This is my 4 x Great Grand father and his marriage to Margaret Evans in Liverpool
Source citation for England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 View record Name: Soloman Hart Gende: Male Marriage Date1 Oct 1839 Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Father: Soloman Hart Spouse: Margaret Evans
I have 13 DNA Matches that go back to this couple so I know they are my 4 x G Parents.
When I view the DNA matches some have the same parents some are blank and some have Solomon as his father. But the common one is this couple below. Netherlands, Birth Index, 1784-1917 Source info Birth, Marriage & Death Quick compare
Name Salomon De Hart Different Birth 1816 Rotterdam Different Residence 1816 New Father Machiel Meijer De Hart New Mother Betje Swei
How ever the marriage for Soloman and Margaret Evans lists his father as a Soloman Hart as well. This does not match up to what a lot of people have in their trees. I know many people do copy other peoples trees without the verification.
I wondered if he just put Solomon down on the marriage for convivence and that this couple is his parents.
I have the census from 1841 onwards for my 4x GGparents so not looking for those just want some help looking at his parents. Any help appreciated.
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The Groom was using the name 'Hart' so would be the same for his father..
You will need to investigate Dutch fmily history research to find anything more. If the Groom Soloman became a British Subject then there may be more information on the document - try the National Archives.
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For our info -
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Stanley Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Solomon Hart Head Married Male 31 1820 French polisher Holland Margaret Hart Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Hannah Hart Daughter - Female 10 1841 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England Samuel E Hart Son - Male 8 1843 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England George Hart Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England Solomon Hart Son - Male 2 1849 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Jessie Hart Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
----------------- Looking at the original 1861 census - it gives his place of birth as Amsterdam <<<<<<<<<<< and what looks like Natsalpet above
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 11, Stanley Street, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Solomon Hart Head Married Male 44 1817 Furniture broker - Margaret Hart Wife - Female 44 1817 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Hannah Hart Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1841 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England Samuel Evan Hart Son Unmarried Male 18 1843 Commercial clerk Liverpool, Lancashire, England George Hart Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Groom assistant Liverpool, Lancashire, England Solomon Hart Son Unmarried Male 12 1849 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England Jessie Hart Daughter Unmarried Female 10 1851 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England William Henry Hart Son Unmarried Male 8 1853 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England Amelia Hart Daughter Unmarried Female 6 1855 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England Rosetta Hart Daughter Unmarried Female 4 1857 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England Hertz Hart Son Unmarried Male 2 1859 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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Solomon is around in 1871 shown as age 53 born 1818 (Margaret is a widow in 1881)
Age at death would indicate b 1819/1820 if accurate
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Mar 1877 (>99%) Hart Solomon 58 W. Derby 8b 340
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The following are the transcripts of the vital records for the Solomon de Hart born 1816 that you refer to, both transcript and images are on FamilySearch:
Birth Name Salomon de Hart Birth Date 17 Apr 1816 Birth Date 17 Apr 1816 Birthplace Rotterdam Birthplace Rotterdam, South Holland, Netherlands Birthplace (Original) Rotterdam Father's Name Machiel Meijer de Hart Mother's Name Betje Sweit Event Type Birth Document Number a151
This however is the death of that child so, sadly, it cannot be the Solomon that you are looking for! Back to the drawing board!
Name Salomon De Hart Age ruim 6 mnd (more than 6 months) Death Date 16 Nov 1816 Death Place Rotterdam, South Holland, Netherlands Death Place (Original) Rotterdam Birthplace Rotterdam Father's Name Michiel Meijer De Hart Mother's Name Betje Suijt Event Type Death
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