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ArgyllGran
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3 May 2022 16:51 |
Wondering if this could be the 6th child mentioned in 1911:
COOPER, MABEL BESSIE mmn GREEN GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 309
Mabel Bessie Cooper in the Dorset, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Mabel Bessie Cooper Baptism Date: 2 Jun 1880 Baptism Place: Haydon, Dorset, England Father: George Cooper Mother: Mary Ann Cooper
Death: COOPER, MABEL BESSIE 0 GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in SHERBORNE Volume 05A Page 237
Mabel Bessie Cooper in the Dorset, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-2010 Name: Mabel Bessie Cooper Death Age: 4/12 Birth Year: abt 1880 Burial Date: 11 Jun 1880 Burial Place: Haydon, Dorset, England
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MotownGal
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3 May 2022 19:15 |
OK back again.
Erika please bear with me. I have a folder with certificates etc, which seems to have gone missing. I fear I might have placed it in a box and it has been dumped back in the attic.
Names I have ordered more than one certificate over the years, only to find it is a duff one. Cooper is a common name, and there are a few in Islington. I only wish they had a really weird and wonderful name, it would be a lot easier. I fear the word of mouth information I have may well be a blind alley.
Erika, the mystery of the marriage continues, maybe they just lived together and she took his name.
ArgyllGran, thank you for this information.
May I just ask that this thread remain here, and as soon as I can find the birth certiificate, I will post again.
Thank you once again to you all for your input. As and when I fish out the box I will be back.
Best Wishes.
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ErikaH
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3 May 2022 20:04 |
The thread will remain as long as you don’t delete it
When you find Sarah’s birth cert, please give us the full details - they may just help ;-)
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MotownGal
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3 May 2022 20:47 |
Thank you for your help so far. I will get up to the attic hopefully very soon.
I will not delete this thread. It has more questions than answers.
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LondonBelle
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5 May 2022 18:20 |
As ArgyllG found that birth for Mabel Bessie Cooper in 1880, I thought I'd look in Dorset for a Marriage and I have found the following Marriage (image on Ancestry), which could or could not be relevant but I think well worth investigating further!
Name: George Cooper Gender: Male Marriage Age: Full Age Bachelor Residence at time of Marriage: ISLINGTON Occupation: Railway Guard Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1879 Marriage Place: Lydlinch, Dorset, England Search Photos: Search for 'Lydlinch' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Isaac Cooper, Game Keeper Spouse: Mary Anne Green Residence at Time of Marriage: Lydlinch, Dorset Father: Charles Green, Labourer
Witnesses Charles Green & Bessie Cooper
Could this be their Marriage?
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MotownGal
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5 May 2022 18:39 |
Thank you for this Belle. It certainly is worth a look.
I am willing to go in any direction now to try and find information.
Hopefully I will get into the attic over the weekend, and find the elusive certificates.
I know I have put them somewhere safe. Famous last words.
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LondonBelle
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5 May 2022 18:48 |
I've just checked the image of little Mabel Bessie's Baptism as it gives her father George's occupation as ' Guard'.
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ArgyllGran
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5 May 2022 21:12 |
Unfortunately, I don't think that's the right couple after all.
George before marriage:
George Cooper in the 1871 England Census Name: George Cooper Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: 1851 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where born: Haydon, Dorset, England Civil parish: Sherborne Ecclesiastical parish: Salisbury Town: Sherborne County/Island: Dorset Country: England Registration district: Sherborne Sub-registration district: Sherborne ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 13 Piece: 2020 Folio: 48 Page number: 4 Household Members Age Relationship Isaac Cooper 46 Head Maria Cooper 41 Wife George Cooper 20 Son Dessey Cooper 16 Daughter Sarah Cooper 12 Daughter
I don't see him in 1881 or later censuses, and George in Islington doesn't seem to appear until 1881.
However, this may well be Dorset George's death:
George Cooper in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: George Cooper Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Sherborne, Dorset, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1881 Inferred Death Place: Dorset, United Kingdom Volume: 5a Page: 249
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ArgyllGran
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5 May 2022 21:27 |
Mary Ann (Dorset) in 1861:
Mary Ann Green in the 1861 England Census Name: Mary Ann Green Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Green Mother's Name: Maria Green Gender: Female Where Born: Lydlinch, Dorset, England Civil Parish: Lydlinch County/Island: Dorset Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: Sturminster Sub-registration District: Stalbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 21 Piece: 1329 Folio: 17 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Charles Green 36 Maria Green 42 Mary Ann Green 12 John Green 10 Mercy Green 7 Charles Green 3
I don't see her in 1871 - she's not with her family.
Can't see her after Mabel Bessie's baptism.
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ErikaH
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6 May 2022 11:47 |
Name: George Cooper Death Age: 39 Birth Year: abt 1842 Burial Date: 7 Jan 1881 Burial Place: Haydon, Dorset, England********same as Mabel Bessie
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