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John Chubb 1811-1863

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LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 10:29

Roy, it might be better for you to give us information of ancestors ( not living) that you know are correct to your search, then we can work backwards to find out which John Chubb is your ancestor :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Apr 2022 11:03

Roy

PLEASE don't respond individually - that way lies chaos. Especially if anyone 'helping' fails to share the fact with others doing the same

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Apr 2022 11:23

Londonbelle...............................

Marriages Sep 1923 (>99%)
Chubb Laurel M Oliver E.Stonehouse 5b 733
Oliver Sydney R Chubb E.Stonehouse 5b 733

1939 Register
29 Sunny Dene, Plymouth, Plymouth C.B., Devon, England
Sydney R Oliver 03 Nov 1898 Male Pastry Furniture Married 96 1
Lauriel M Weatherdon (Oliver) 05 Jul 1899 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 96 2
John D G Oliver 05 Oct 1924 Male At School Single 96 3


CHUBB, LAUREL MYRTLE HUTTON
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 290

Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%)
CHIDGNY Rose Langford Devonport 5b 629
CHUBB John Devonport 5b 629

1911

Rose Langford Chubb Wife Married Female 27 1884 - Swansea Wales
Laurel Myrtte Chubb Daughter - Female 11 1900 At school Devonport Devon
Lilian Violet Chubb Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Devonport Devon
Winifred Mabel Chubb Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Devonport Devon
George Chidgey Boarder Widower Male 58 1853 General worjs department Taunton Devon
James McCarthy Boarder Single Male 27 1884 A b Mulmore Hiltown County Devon


CHUBB, LILIAN VIOLET HUTTON
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 276

First name(s) Laurel Myrtha
County Devon
Last name Chubb
Country England
Birth year 1899
Event type Baptism registers
Birth date 05 Jul 1899
Archive ref 737/1
Baptism year 1899
Page 136
Baptism date 20 Jul 1899
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Father's first name(s) John
Record set Devon Baptisms
Mother's first name(s) Laura Caroline******************************************

Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
Chubb John E. Stonehouse 5b 494
Hutton Laura Caroline E. Stonehouse 5b 494
Father's first name(s) Richard*************************Naval Pensioner (DECEASED)
Laura's father: John Hutton, Naval Pensioner
John Chubb AB, aged 23 on 17th February 1894


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
10, Corry Street, Devonport, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England

John Chubb Head Married Male 27 1874 Naval police Devonport, Devon, England
Laura Chubb Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Devonport, Devon, England
Myrtle L Chubb Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Devonport, Devon, England
Lilian Chubb Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Devonport, Devon, England
Caroline Smith Attendens Married Female 23 1878 Monthly nurse Calstock, Cornwall, England

?????????????????1881......................but Richard is his GRANDfather
Richard Chubb Head Married Male 60 1821 Pensioner dockyard Tamerton Foliot, Devon, England
Ann Chubb Wife Married Female 63 1818 - Eggbuckland, Devon, England
John Chubb Son Single Male 14 1867 Grocers assistant Plymouth, Devon, England
Catherine Chubb Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Dressmaker Plymouth, Devon, England
John Chubb Grand son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
Robert Chubb Grand son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Plymouth, Devon, England
Alfred Chubb Grand son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar United States

Name: Alfred Chubb
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Marquette, Marquette, Michigan
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1876
Father's Name: Robert Chubb
Mother's Name: Jane Chubb
FHL Film Number: 1007531

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Trafalgar Place, Plymouth, Devon, England
Richard Chubb Head Widower Male 70 1821 Retired leading man Devon, England
Alfred Chubb Grandson - Male 14 1877 Errand boy United States


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Marriages Mar 1868 (>99%)
CHUBB Robert Plymouth 5b 384
Clemence Jane Ann Plymouth 5b 384

CHUBB, ROBERT CLEMENTS
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 292

CHUBB, JOHN CLEMENTS
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in PLYMOUTH Volume 05B Page 277

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 14:46

1911 Census for Alfred shows he was born in Marquette, Michigan
Name: Alfred Chubb
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Marquette, Michigan, United States of America
Civil Parish: Plymouth
Search Photos: Search for 'Plymouth' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Country: England
Street Address: 56 Grenville Road, Plymouth
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Assistant Grocer
Registration District Number: 276
Sub-registration District: Plymouth South East
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Piece: 12964
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Chubb 34
Matilda Jane Chubb 36
Gladys Winnifred Chubb 9

Also Alfred's Marriage to Matilda Jane Horsham on 12 May 1900 gives his Father as Robert Chubb...image on FMP. Alfred is aged 23, a Grocer and gives his address as 1 Trafalgar Place , Plymouth the same as that in the 1891 Census, his grandfather Richard's address.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 15:14

The details of Robert Chubb"s marriage to Jane Ann Clemence are (Image on FMP)

First name(s) Robert
Last name Chubb
Age Full Age
Occupation Labourer
Address 7 Exeter Street
Year 1868
Marriage date 25 Mar 1868
Place Plymouth, Charles the Martyr
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Jane Ann
Spouse's last name Clemence
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Chubb
Occupation Labourer
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Clemence
County Devon

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Apr 2022 15:45

First name(s) Robert
Last name Chubb
Baptism date 18 Aug 1844
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Place Eggbuckland


First name(s) Richard
Last name Chubb
Marriage date 07 Nov 1840
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Brown
Place Stoke Damerel

His father: Richard, Labourer
Her father: John, Labourer

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 16:03

Richard in 1841 Census with wife Ann

Name: Richard Chubb
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where Born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Egg Buckland
Hundred: Roborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration District: Plympton
Neighbors:
Piece: 240
Book: 16
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Chubb 20
Ann Chubb 20
William Chubb 3 Mo

Next door could be Parents Richard & Ann?

Name: Richard Chubb
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where Born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Egg Buckland
Hundred: Roborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration District: Plympton St Mary
Sub-registration District: Plympton
Neighbors:
Piece: 240
Book: 16
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Chubb 50
Ann Chubb 50
William Chubb 20
Robert Chubb 15
Stephan Chubb 10
Thomas Chubb 5

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Apr 2022 16:05

1939

Name: John Chubb
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1873
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 38 St Vincent St
Residence Place: Plymouth, Devon, England
Occupation: Retiree
Line Number: 44
Schedule Number: 205
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: Weum
Borough: Plymouth
Registration district: 276/3
Household Members Age
John Chubb 66
Rose L Chubb 46
Gladys L B Smith 17

Name: John Chubb
Death Date: 29 Sep 1956
Death Place: Plymouth
Probate Date: 18 Oct 1956
Probate Registry: Exeter
Probate granted to Gladys Betty Laura Smith - spinster
Effects £817 10s

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Smith Gladys B L Smith E.Stonehouse 5b 449

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 16:28

I'm just wondering if the Father of John and Richard are the same person.
Now I haven't checked this out but if Jane Chubb nee Dadd the mother of John Chubb died in 1813 as per the Tree that Maddie has found on Ancestry could Richard Chubb have remarried?
There is a marriage for Richard Chubb to Ann Coss on 11 Jul 1816 at East Stonehouse sadly there is only the transcript so not much information.
If the above is correct
Richard Chubb and his first wife Jane Dadd are the parents of John
and
Richard Chubb and his second wife Ann Coss are the parents of Richard

So that would make John & Richard half brothers

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Apr 2022 16:31

No parental info on pre-1837 marriage records.

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 16:34

Death of Jane?
irst name(s) Jane
Burial place Bickleigh (Near Plymouth)
Last name Chubb
Abode Tamerton Foliot
County Devon
Age 31
Country England
Birth year 1782
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Death year 1813
Record set Devon Burials
Burial year 1813
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial date 17 Nov 1813
Subcategory Parish Burials
Denomination Anglican

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 16:35

I was hoping that it might say if Richard was a Widower and perhaps if the Witnesses might help

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 16:54

I've found the image on FamilySearch but doesn't state marital status for Richard
Name Richard Chubb Labourer
Sex Male
Spouse's Name Ann Coss Spinster
Spouse's Sex Female
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Marriage Date 11 Jul 1816
Marriage Place East Stonehouse, Devon, England
Witnesses Mary Coss & Frances Chubb (could be Francis)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Apr 2022 17:51

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Knackers Knowle, Egg Buckland, Plympton St Mary, Devon, England

Richard Chubb Head Married Male 30 1821 Farm labourer Devon, England
Anne Chubb Wife Married Female 33 1818 - Devon, England
Henry Chubb Son - Male 9 1842 Day school Egg Buckland, Devon, England
Robert Chubb Son - Male 7 1844 Day school Egg Buckland, Devon, England
John Chubb Son - Male 5 1846 - Egg Buckland, Devon, England
George Chubb Son - Male 1 1850 - Egg Buckland, Devon, England
John Brown Father-in-law Wr Male 68 1783 Pauper shoe maker Devon, England

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 17 Apr 2022 18:26

Burial of Richard Chubb senior, father of John & Richard?

First name(s) Richard
Country England
Last name Chubb
Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Birth year 1786
Archive reference 476/7
Burial year 1850
Archive event Burial registers
Age 64
Page 98
Burial date 19 May 1850
Abode Knackers Knowle -------------
Record set Devon Burials
Denomination Anglican
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Place Tamerton Foliot
Subcategory Parish Burials
County Devon

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Apr 2022 10:47

Any comments, Roy?????

Please respond ON THE THREAD. Thank you

Roy

Roy Report 20 Apr 2022 04:42

Hi LondonBelle, I do not believe this is the correct John Chubb, wrong DOB and wrong parents. Thanks anyway
Roy

Roy

Roy Report 20 Apr 2022 05:57

Hi Erikah, I am totally confused about the possible second marriage of Richard to Anne. The time would be correct but this is the first I have heard about it and I am a little wary about documenting this marriage until I have more concreate proof
Roy

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Apr 2022 10:50

Roy

All anyone on here can do is provide info 'as found' It's up to you to evaluate it and do your own further IN-DEPTH research into what is, after all, YOUR family.

And remember to work BACKWARDS.........................

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 20 Apr 2022 17:23

A couple of Articles relating to John Chubb which could be the person you are looking for?

Article in the Tavistock Express, 15 May 1863
FATAL ACCIDENT IN DEVONPORT DOCKYARD

A fatal accident took place in Devonport Dockyard , on Monday afternoon, whereby Mr John Chubb, leading-man of labourers, was crushed to death and two labourers badly injured. The accident took place as one of the piles of balks of timber stacked near the millwright's shop. At about three o'clock a gang of labourers were there employed, under Mr Chubb's superintendence, in lowering some of the balks of enormous weight, that was the outer balk in front of the pile, on the uppermost layer. Their plan appears to have been to pass the bights of rope round th balk to be lowered, while the standing part of these ropes was secured to the last balk on the inner side on the same tier, and other ends of the ropes used by the men to lower by. The descending balk being thus allowed to roll over in its descent. The inner balk to which the ropes were secured was, it appears, a very light one in comparison with the one being lowered, and directly the weight of the latter was brought to bear on the ropes on its slipping off the edge of the pile, the inner balk was torn out from its place in the tier, and along with the heavier balk thrown on the pavement with fearful violence. Mr Chubb was standing on the pile at the time, and was swept off by the started balk. He fell on his face on the granite pavement, and in that position the balk fell on his head and upper part of his body, crushing him flat, and causing him instantaneous death. Two of the labourers were also badly injured by the accident, but in the confusion of the moment the cause was hardly known. Some upright pieces of timber are said to haven been placed between the balk to guard against such an accident, but on the balk starting they proved totally ineffective, being instantly broken and swept off. Mr Chubb was, it is said, about 50 years of age; he had been employed in his department in the Dockyard for many years, and was considered to be one of the most efficient persons there for managing this kind of work. He leaves a widow and a large family, among whom is a widowed daughter, dependent upon him. As some alleviation to their misfortune, it is, however, expected that the widow will receive one half of the pension the deceased would have been entitled to. The body was taken to the engine-room, near the surgery, to await a coroner's inquest.


(Another later article states that John Chubb's widow was awarded £10 per annum pension)



The following article was in The Western Daily Mercury on 13 May 1863

FATAL ACCIDENT AT THE DEVONPORT DOCKYARD

An Inquest was held at the Town Hall, Devonport, yesterday afternoon, before Allan R Bone, Esq., coroner touching the death of John Chubb, who was killed at the Dockyard on Monday afternoon. under the following circumstances:-A gang of labourers, acting under the superintendence of the deceased, were employed on a pile of balks of timber. They were endeavouring to lower a very large balk which was tied by roe, four men being on the top of the pile for that purpose. In order to have sufficient control over the piece of timber, which was two tons in weight, the other ends of the rope were tied round another piece of timber on the top of the pile;but that piece not being much more that half the weight of piece being lowered, the larger piece dragged the smaller one after it. Mr Chubb, who was standing on the pile, was thrown violently to the ground, and, the plank falling on his head and body, he was killed instantly. Two other men, who were also standing on the pile, were more or less injured. After hearing the evidence, the jury returned a verdict of Accidental Death.
During the examination of one of the witnesses, a juryman fell asleep, and was apparently unconcerned to all that was going on around him.
The Coroner said he was very sorry to disturb him in his nap, but his reason for so doing was tat he (the juryman) had taken an oath to give a true verdict to the case before him, and it was impossible for him to give the requisite amount of attention while he was asleep. He (the Coroner) also reminded him that he was liable to a very heavy penalty, and then discharged him from the jury.
Yesterday afternoon the deceased man, Chubb, was carried to his late residence, Navy Row, by a number of men who have been accustomed to work with him. The coffin, which was made in the Yard, was covered with a Union Jack. The melancholy accident has cast a gloom over the Yard, in which the deceased was greatly respected.