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27 Mar 2023 21:13 |
Thank you ErikaH & ArgyllGran I have her date of birth and death from Find a Grave. Thanks for your help. I am going to mark this one as answered now. It is very difficult when people dont use their first name or birth name when you are trying to find them.
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ArgyllGran
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27 Mar 2023 18:53 |
Her father Simon's naturalisation record, which I posted on 15th April 2022 at 16:34, gives Eleanor Joan's DOB as 18th Jan 1937.
Her brother Joseph Patrick was born 25 Oct 1935.
Two trees on Ancestry have photos of her.
EDIT: No, sorry, of course it's not the 1936 record which gives her full name and DOB. It's a different naturalisation record .
Simon William Sadler in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Federal Naturalization Records, 1795-1931 Name: Simon William Sadler [Simon Wm. Sadler] Gender: Male Race: White Petition Age: 35 Record Type: Naturalization Petition Birth Date: 1 Mar 1903 Birth Place: Jarrow, England Arrival Date: 2 Nov 1923 Arrival Place: Vanceboro, Maine Petition Date: 6 Jan 1939 Petition Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Naturalization Place: Pennsylvania, USA Spouse: Catherine Campbell Children: Joseph Patrick Eleanor [ Eleanor Joan on image ] Petition Number: 133502
He eventually took the Oath of Allegiance on 4 Dec 1940.
Her birth record won't be online until at least 2042.
"In 1906 Pennsylvania began to record births on a statewide level. Currently birth indexes are available from 1906 through 1913 only as there is a 105 year restriction on birth records."
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/How_to_Find_Pennsylvania_Birth_Records
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ErikaH
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27 Mar 2023 17:05 |
Name Eleanor Joan Moore [Eleanor Moore] Birth Date Jan 1937 [Jan 1937] Phone Number 637-4304 Address 300 North Av Residence Secane, PA Postal Code 19018 Second Residence Date 1979 Second Phone Number 637-4304 Second Address 12705 Kenny Rd Second Residence Philadelphia, PA Second Postal Code 19154-1411
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27 Mar 2023 15:00 |
I have returned to this post as I have now found Joan Sadler or rather Eleanor: It appears that she was born Eleanor in 1937; details from the 1950 census: I assume that she was either Eleanor Joan or she just used the name Joan all her adult life: Every thing you find about her she is Joan even her death as shown on Find a Grave: Details of family shown on her father death and her brothers death show her as Joan: The details on her death records tie up with her birth in the 1950 census:
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15 Apr 2022 21:43 |
Pennsylvania seems to be one of the states they haven't got to yet re the 1950 census.
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Maddie
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15 Apr 2022 18:28 |
released but 1950 U.S. Census
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Mumbles
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15 Apr 2022 17:40 |
Yes as far as I know it has on the 1st April 2022
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15 Apr 2022 17:29 |
Has the 1950 census actually been put online?
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Maddie
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15 Apr 2022 17:17 |
United States Obituary Notices Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States Transcript of Simon's record First name(s) Simon State Pennsylvania Last name Sadler Country United States Full name as given Simon Sadler Obituary text Simon was born on March 1, 1903 and passed away in May 1969.Simon was a resident of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Birth year 1903 Source link View the Source Record Birth date 01 Mar 1903 Record set United States Obituary Notices Death year 1969 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death date May 1969 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Full dates March 1, 1903 - May 1969 Collections from Americas, United States
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Mumbles
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15 Apr 2022 17:16 |
Many thanks Maddie & ArgyllGran I have details for Simon his wife and the sons but Joan just seems to elude me. I thought that the 1950 census might just be the place where I might find her. Thank you for taking time to search for me.
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ArgyllGran
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15 Apr 2022 17:00 |
Can't see 2548 North Fairhill Street in 1940 census - nor any other number anywhere near that - only addresses in the 5000s and 6000s.
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15 Apr 2022 16:34 |
No sign on censuses except 1930.
I expect you have these - just posting for our reference:
Naturalisation in 1936:
Simon William Sadler in the Pennsylvania, U.S., Federal Naturalization Records, 1795-1931 Name: Simon William Sadler Gender: Male Race: White Declaration Age: 33 Record Type: Naturalization Declaration Birth Date: 1 Mar 1903 Birth Place: Jarrow, England Arrival Date: 2 Nov 1923 Arrival Place: Vanceboro, Maine Declaration Date: 11 Dec 1936 Declaration Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Spouse: Catherine Declaration Number: 141408
Living in Philadelphia in 1942:
Simon William Sadler in the U.S., World War II Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947 Name: Simon William Sadler Race: White Age: 38 Relationship to Draftee: Self (Head) Birth Date: 1 Mar 1903 Birth Place: Jarrow, England Residence Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Registration Date: 16 Feb 1942 Registration Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Height: 5 10 Weight: 200 Complexion: Light Hair Color: Brown Eye Color: Blue Household Members Age Relationship Simon William Sadler 39 Self (Head)
Address: 2548 North Fairhill Street.
Buried in Pennsylvania in 1969:
Simon W. Sadler in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: Simon W. Sadler Gender: Male Birth Date: 1 Mar 1903 Death Date: 24 May 1969 Cemetery: Holy Sepulchre Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Cheltenham Township, Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, United States of America
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15 Apr 2022 16:32 |
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Name: William S. Sadler Gender: Male Residence Place: Olney Death Date: 27 Dec 2008 Obituary Date: 28 Dec 2008 Father: Simon W. Sadler Mother: Kathleen Sadler Siblings: Joan Moore Joseph P. Sadler
joan Name: Joan Moore Siblings: William S. Sadler
Name: Kathleen Campbell Sadler Gender: Female Residence Place: Otnev Death Date: 20 Jun 1986 Obituary Date: 22 Jun 1986 Obituary Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Newspaper Title: The Philadelphia Inquirer Spouse: Simon W Child: Joan Moore Joseph P. Sadler Wiaiam S. Sadler Siblings: Vvaham Campbol Mary Bridget
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15 Apr 2022 16:26 |
only census showing for simon is 1930
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Mumbles
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15 Apr 2022 16:16 |
Help please trying to find a Joan Sadler born Philadelphia Pennsylvania: in 1950 census: Head of family Simon Sadler born 1903 Jarrow Durham England: Wife: Catherine Sadler born 1906 Londonderry N. Ireland: Son: Joseph Patrick Sadler born 1935 Philadelphia. Son: William Simon Sadler born 1943 Philadelphia. As far as I know Joan is the youngest child of three, in later life when she married she was Joan Moore:
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