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Sharon
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1 Apr 2022 13:45 |
I am trying to find out about my grandfather. I am unable to find him on the 1921 census. He was on the 1911 census in Kingston, Surrey with his parents John Crawley and Mary Ann Crawley, nee Harman. He also had three brothers and two sisters as far as I know.
If anyone has any information about the family it would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Sharon
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Apr 2022 13:50 |
You shouid be able to find any siblings born after 1911 showing mmn on freebmd
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1 Apr 2022 13:53 |
Just two sibling it seems
Births Sept1912 Crawley Elizabeth M Harman Kingston 2a 922
Births Mar 1914 CRAWLEY Ellen Harman Kingston 2a 895
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ErikaH
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1 Apr 2022 13:54 |
If this is 1911, no father living with the family
Ellen Bowles Head Widow Female 46 1865 Laundress Hook Surrey Owen Bowles Son - Male 12 1899 School East Molsey Surrey Dorothy Bowles Daughter - Female 11 1900 School East Molsey Surrey Percy Bowles Son - Male 10 1901 School East Molsey Surrey Mary Crawley Wife Married Female 32 1879 - Surbiton Surry John Crawley Son - Male 14 1897 Errand boy Surbiton Surry Thomas Crawley Son - Male 8 1903 School Kingston Surrey William Crawley Son - Male 3 1908 - Surbiton Surry Charles Crawley Son - Male 1 1910 - Surbiton Surry
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ErikaH
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1 Apr 2022 13:56 |
Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%) Crawley John Kingston 2a 697 Harman Mary Kingston 2a 697
CRAWLEY, JOHN ROBERT HARMAN GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in KINGSTON ON THAMES Volume 02A Page 386 CRAWLEY, - (Male) HARMAN GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in KINGSTON ON THAMES Volume 02A Page 402 CRAWLEY, THOMAS HARMAN GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in KINGSTON Volume 02A Page 406 CRAWLEY, CHARLES HARMAN GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in KINGSTON Volume 02A Page 439 CRAWLEY, WILLIAM GEORGE HARMAN GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in KINGSTON Volume 02A Page 491
Always use the FREE-to-all GRO site for births pre-1911
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1 Apr 2022 14:00 |
Maybe check this one on the 1921 census
Nellie Crawley 1914 Surbiton, Surrey, England Surbiton Kingston Surrey
1921 Census Of England & Wales transcript Person with no specified gender Nellie, E and W are on this record Sample Record transcript
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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1 Apr 2022 14:02 |
Charles Crawley 1908 Surbiton Hill, Surrey, England Ham Kingston Surrey
1921 Census Of England & Wales transcript Person with no specified gender Charles is on this record Sample Record transcript A legible translation of the original record
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ErikaH
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1 Apr 2022 14:02 |
Have you found other family members in 1921?
Who, when and where did Thomas marry?
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ErikaH
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1 Apr 2022 14:06 |
Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%) Crawley John R Fink Kingston 2a 1209 Fink Violet Crawley Kingston 2a 1209
Deaths Dec 1974 (>99%) CRAWLEY JOHN ROBERT 24FE1898 KINGSTON/T 13 2042
1939 Register 15 Ravenscar Road, Kingston Upon Thames, Surbiton M.B., Surrey, England Frederick ? Fink 25 Mar 1917 Male Contracotor's Lorry Driver Married 27 1 Lily Hawkins (Fink) 21 Apr 1920 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 27 2 John R Crawley 10 Feb 1897 Male Greengrocer's Salesman Widowed 27 3
Births Mar 1917 (>99%) Fink Frederick G Kent Kingston 2a 726
Name: Frederick George Fink Baptism Date: 9 May 1917 Baptism Place: Surbiton Hill, Christ Church, Surrey, England Father: Frederick Leonard Fink Mother: Violet Fink Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%) Fink Leonard F Kent Kingston 2a 1405 Kent Violet Fink Kingston 2a 1405
Deaths Jun 1935 (>99%) Crawley Violet 38 Surrey N.E. 2a 87
POSSIBLE re-marriage for JOHN Robert.
Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%) Crawley John R Lynn Surrey N. E. 2a 265 Lynn Maud Crawley Surrey N.E. 2a 265
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Maddie
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1 Apr 2022 14:22 |
hmmm Name: Mary E Crawley Age: 0 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Kingston, Surrey, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1913 Inferred Death Place: Surrey, United Kingdom Volume: 2a Page: 619
Name: Elizabeth Mary Crawley Birth Date: Jun 1912 Birth Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England Death Date: Jan 1913 Death Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England Cemetery: Kingston Cemetery and Crematorium Burial or Cremation Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England Has Bio?: Y Mother: Mary Crawley
Name: Mary Crawley Birth Date: 1879 Birth Place: Surbiton, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England Death Date: 5 Feb 1917 Death Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England Cemetery: Kingston Cemetery and Crematorium Burial or Cremation Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England Has Bio?: Y Children: Elizabeth Mary Crawley
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Maddie
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1 Apr 2022 14:26 |
Name: Nellie Crawley Registration Date: Jan 1934 [Feb 1934] [Mar 1934] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Kingston Inferred County: Surrey Spouse: Charles E Ririe Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 1010
Name: Nellie Ririe Birth Date: 1914 Death Date: 14 Mar 1993 Cemetery: Surbiton Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England Has Bio?: N URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222339277/nellie-ririe
Name: Nellie Ririe Death Age: 79 Birth Date: 1 Jan 1914 Registration Date: Mar 1993 Registration District: Kingston Upon Thames Inferred County: Greater London Register Number: C59 District and Subdistrict: 2401C Entry Number: 121
Name: Nellie Ririe Electoral Date: 1964 Street Address: 1 The Lodge Ward or Division/Constituency: Kingston Upon Thames County or Borough: Surbiton, England Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2962
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Maddie
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1 Apr 2022 14:34 |
Name: John R Crawley Gender: Male Marital Status: Widow Birth Date: 10 Feb 1897 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 15 Residence Place: Surbiton, Surrey, England Occupation: Greengrocer's Salesman Line Number: 32 Schedule Number: 27 Sub Schedule Number: 3 Enumeration District: Cnib Borough: Surbiton Registration district: 30-2 Household Members Age Frederick G Fink 22 This record is officially closed. John R Crawley 42
Name: John Robert Crawley Death Age: 76 Birth Date: 24 Feb 1898 Registration Date: Oct 1974 [Nov 1974] [Dec 1974] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Kingston upon Thames Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 13 Page: 2042
John R County Surrey Last name Crawley Country England Marriage quarter 2 Volume 2A Marriage year 1920 Volume as transcribed 2A Registration month - Page number 1209 MarriageFinder™ John R Crawley married one of these people Violet Fink
John Robert Registry Brighton Last name Crawley County Surrey Death year 1982 Country England Death date 17 Oct 1982 Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019 Probate year 1982 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Probate date 22 Dec 1982 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Residence town Ewell
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Maddie
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1 Apr 2022 14:55 |
Name: William George Crawley Death Age: 70 Birth Date: 2 Apr 1908 Registration Date: Oct 1978 [Nov 1978] [Dec 1978] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration District: Kingston upon Thames Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 13 Page: 1997
William George Crawley in the Surrey, England, Regimental Rolls and Recruitment Registers, 1908-1947 Name: William George Crawley Military Enlistment Age: 18 Birth Date: abt 1909 Military Enlistment Date: 1927 Military Enlistment Place: Surrey, England Occupation: Labourer
Name: William G Crawley Registration Date: Apr 1931 [May 1931] [Jun 1931] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Blean Inferred County: Kent Spouse: Ivy M Matson Volume Number: 2a Page Number: 2730
Name: Ivy Mary Crawley Register Type: Cremation Death Date: abt 1976 Burial or Cremation Date: 25 Aug 1976 Burial or Cremation Place: Kent, England URL:
Name: Ivy Mary Crawley Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 6 Mar 1906 Residence Date: 1939 Residence Place: Swale, Kent, England Occupation: Housewife Unpaid Line Number: 16 Schedule Number: 612 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: Djue Borough: Swale Registration district: 60-1 Inferred Spouse: William S Crawley Inferred Children: Geary Crawley Household Members Age William S Crawley (g) 30 Ivy Mary Crawley 33 This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed. Geary Crawley ---- jean 3 This record is officially closed. This record is officially closed.
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Maddie
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1 Apr 2022 16:19 |
father john born 1869 whitechapel from 1901 census
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Pundersons Gardens, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England
Henry Crawley Head - Male 35 1836 - Middlesex, England Caroline S Crawley Wife - Female 30 1841 - Middlesex, England Henry T Crawley Son - Male 11 1860 - Middlesex, England Charles W Crawley Son - Male 9 1862 - Middlesex, England Robert Crawley Son - Male 6 1865 - Middlesex, England Thomas Crawley Son - Male 3 1868 - Middlesex, England John Crawley Son - Male 1 1870 - Middlesex, England
John Crawley in 1881 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 9, Pundersons Gardens, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England
Henry Crawley Head Married Male 46 1835 Chair maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Caroline S Crawley Wife Married Female 40 1841 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Henry T Crawley Son Single Male 21 1860 Chair maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Charles W Crawley Son Single Male 20 1861 Chair maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Robert Crawley Son Single Male 16 1865 Upholsterer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Thomas Crawley Son Single Male 13 1868 Papering up boy Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England John Crawley Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Alfred Crawley Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Frank Crawley Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Frederick W Crawley Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Caroline S Crawley Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Baby Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
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ArgyllGran
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1 Apr 2022 17:14 |
In 1921 there's this Thomas with no place of birth stated (at least according to the transcription) , living in Poplar.
Thomas Crawley 1903 — Poplar Borough Poplar London, Middlesex
Your grandfather would have been 18, and possibly no longer living with his parents, because of work.
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ErikaH
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1 Apr 2022 21:58 |
PM received from Sharon - replied at 3.22pm advising her to respond on here. Message opened………..
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Sharon
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3 Apr 2022 11:35 |
Thank you for your replies,
I am still unable to find the family altogether, some may have gone their own ways, family or work. Thank you, it does looks as though Mary may have passed away by this 1921 census. Also the suggestion of Nellie, born 1914, perhaps could be the name Ellen was now known by.
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ErikaH
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3 Apr 2022 13:50 |
Nellie is a very common diminutive of Ellen
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Sharon
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3 Apr 2022 17:12 |
Thank you.
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