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Thank you.

Nellie is a very common diminutive of Ellen

Thank you for your replies,

I am still unable to find the family altogether, some may have gone their own ways, family or work. Thank you, it does looks as though Mary may have passed away by this 1921 census. Also the suggestion of Nellie, born 1914, perhaps could be the name Ellen was now known by.

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In 1921 there's this Thomas with no place of birth stated (at least according to the transcription) , living in Poplar.

Thomas
Crawley
1903
—
Poplar Borough
Poplar
London, Middlesex

Your grandfather would have been 18, and possibly no longer living with his parents, because of work.

father john born 1869 whitechapel from 1901 census

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Pundersons Gardens, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

Henry Crawley Head
- Male 35 1836 - Middlesex, England
Caroline S Crawley Wife
- Female 30 1841 - Middlesex, England
Henry T Crawley Son
- Male 11 1860 - Middlesex, England
Charles W Crawley Son
- Male 9 1862 - Middlesex, England
Robert Crawley Son
- Male 6 1865 - Middlesex, England
Thomas Crawley Son
- Male 3 1868 - Middlesex, England
John Crawley Son
- Male 1 1870 - Middlesex, England

John Crawley in 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
9, Pundersons Gardens, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex, England

Henry Crawley Head
Married Male 46 1835 Chair maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Caroline S Crawley Wife
Married Female 40 1841 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Henry T Crawley Son
Single Male 21 1860 Chair maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Charles W Crawley Son
Single Male 20 1861 Chair maker Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Robert Crawley Son
Single Male 16 1865 Upholsterer Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Thomas Crawley Son
Single Male 13 1868 Papering up boy Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
John Crawley Son
Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Alfred Crawley Son
Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Frank Crawley Son
Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Frederick W Crawley Son
Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Caroline S Crawley Daughter
Single Female 1 1880 Baby Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

Name: William George Crawley
Death Age: 70
Birth Date: 2 Apr 1908
Registration Date: Oct 1978
[Nov 1978]
[Dec 1978]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Kingston upon Thames
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 13
Page: 1997

William George Crawley
in the Surrey, England, Regimental Rolls and Recruitment Registers, 1908-1947
Name: William George Crawley
Military Enlistment Age: 18
Birth Date: abt 1909
Military Enlistment Date: 1927
Military Enlistment Place: Surrey, England
Occupation: Labourer

Name: William G Crawley
Registration Date: Apr 1931
[May 1931]
[Jun 1931]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Blean
Inferred County: Kent
Spouse: Ivy M Matson
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 2730


Name: Ivy Mary Crawley
Register Type: Cremation
Death Date: abt 1976
Burial or Cremation Date: 25 Aug 1976
Burial or Cremation Place: Kent, England
URL:

Name: Ivy Mary Crawley
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 6 Mar 1906
Residence Date: 1939
Residence Place: Swale, Kent, England
Occupation: Housewife Unpaid
Line Number: 16
Schedule Number: 612
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: Djue
Borough: Swale
Registration district: 60-1
Inferred Spouse:
William S Crawley
Inferred Children:
Geary Crawley
Household Members Age
William S Crawley (g)
30
Ivy Mary Crawley 33
This record is officially closed.

This record is officially closed.

This record is officially closed.

Geary Crawley ---- jean
3
This record is officially closed.

This record is officially closed.

Name: John R Crawley
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widow
Birth Date: 10 Feb 1897
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 15
Residence Place: Surbiton, Surrey, England
Occupation: Greengrocer's Salesman
Line Number: 32
Schedule Number: 27
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: Cnib
Borough: Surbiton
Registration district: 30-2
Household Members Age
Frederick G Fink
22
This record is officially closed.

John R Crawley 42

Name: John Robert Crawley
Death Age: 76
Birth Date: 24 Feb 1898
Registration Date: Oct 1974
[Nov 1974]
[Dec 1974]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Kingston upon Thames
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 13
Page: 2042

John R
County Surrey
Last name Crawley
Country England
Marriage quarter 2
Volume 2A
Marriage year 1920
Volume as transcribed 2A
Registration month -
Page number 1209
MarriageFinder™ John R Crawley married one of these people
Violet Fink

John Robert
Registry Brighton
Last name Crawley
County Surrey
Death year 1982
Country England
Death date 17 Oct 1982
Record set England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Probate year 1982
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Probate date 22 Dec 1982
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Residence town Ewell

Name: Nellie Crawley
Registration Date: Jan 1934
[Feb 1934]
[Mar 1934]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Spouse: Charles E Ririe
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1010

Name: Nellie Ririe
Birth Date: 1914
Death Date: 14 Mar 1993
Cemetery: Surbiton Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England
Has Bio?: N
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/222339277/nellie-ririe


Name: Nellie Ririe
Death Age: 79
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1914
Registration Date: Mar 1993
Registration District: Kingston Upon Thames
Inferred County: Greater London
Register Number: C59
District and Subdistrict: 2401C
Entry Number: 121

Name: Nellie Ririe
Electoral Date: 1964
Street Address: 1 The Lodge
Ward or Division/Constituency: Kingston Upon Thames
County or Borough: Surbiton, England
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2962

hmmm
Name: Mary E Crawley
Age: 0
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Kingston, Surrey, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1913
Inferred Death Place: Surrey, United Kingdom
Volume: 2a
Page: 619

Name: Elizabeth Mary Crawley
Birth Date: Jun 1912
Birth Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England
Death Date: Jan 1913
Death Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Kingston Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England
Has Bio?: Y
Mother:
Mary Crawley

Name: Mary Crawley
Birth Date: 1879
Birth Place: Surbiton, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England
Death Date: 5 Feb 1917
Death Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Kingston Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place: Kingston upon Thames, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Greater London, England
Has Bio?: Y
Children:
Elizabeth Mary Crawley

Marriages Jun 1920 (>99%)
Crawley John R Fink Kingston 2a 1209
Fink Violet Crawley Kingston 2a 1209

Deaths Dec 1974 (>99%)
CRAWLEY JOHN ROBERT 24FE1898 KINGSTON/T 13 2042

1939 Register
15 Ravenscar Road, Kingston Upon Thames, Surbiton M.B., Surrey, England
Frederick ? Fink 25 Mar 1917 Male Contracotor's Lorry Driver Married 27 1
Lily Hawkins (Fink) 21 Apr 1920 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 27 2
John R Crawley 10 Feb 1897 Male Greengrocer's Salesman Widowed 27 3


Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Fink Frederick G Kent Kingston 2a 726


Name: Frederick George Fink
Baptism Date: 9 May 1917
Baptism Place: Surbiton Hill, Christ Church, Surrey, England
Father: Frederick Leonard Fink
Mother: Violet Fink
Marriages Sep 1915 (>99%)
Fink Leonard F Kent Kingston 2a 1405
Kent Violet Fink Kingston 2a 1405

Deaths Jun 1935 (>99%)
Crawley Violet 38 Surrey N.E. 2a 87

POSSIBLE re-marriage for JOHN Robert.

Marriages Mar 1940 (>99%)
Crawley John R Lynn Surrey N. E. 2a 265
Lynn Maud Crawley Surrey N.E. 2a 265

Have you found other family members in 1921?

Who, when and where did Thomas marry?

Charles
Crawley
1908
Surbiton Hill, Surrey, England
Ham
Kingston
Surrey

1921 Census Of England & Wales transcript
Person with no specified gender
Charles is on this record
Sample Record transcript
A legible translation of the original record

Maybe check this one on the 1921 census

Nellie
Crawley
1914
Surbiton, Surrey, England
Surbiton
Kingston
Surrey


1921 Census Of England & Wales transcript
Person with no specified gender
Nellie, E and W are on this record
Sample Record transcript

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
Crawley John Kingston 2a 697
Harman Mary Kingston 2a 697

CRAWLEY, JOHN ROBERT HARMAN
GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in KINGSTON ON THAMES Volume 02A Page 386
CRAWLEY, - (Male) HARMAN
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in KINGSTON ON THAMES Volume 02A Page 402
CRAWLEY, THOMAS HARMAN
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in KINGSTON Volume 02A Page 406
CRAWLEY, CHARLES HARMAN
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in KINGSTON Volume 02A Page 439
CRAWLEY, WILLIAM GEORGE HARMAN
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in KINGSTON Volume 02A Page 491


Always use the FREE-to-all GRO site for births pre-1911

If this is 1911, no father living with the family


Ellen Bowles Head Widow Female 46 1865 Laundress Hook Surrey
Owen Bowles Son - Male 12 1899 School East Molsey Surrey
Dorothy Bowles Daughter - Female 11 1900 School East Molsey Surrey
Percy Bowles Son - Male 10 1901 School East Molsey Surrey
Mary Crawley Wife Married Female 32 1879 - Surbiton Surry
John Crawley Son - Male 14 1897 Errand boy Surbiton Surry
Thomas Crawley Son - Male 8 1903 School Kingston Surrey
William Crawley Son - Male 3 1908 - Surbiton Surry
Charles Crawley Son - Male 1 1910 - Surbiton Surry

Just two sibling it seems

Births Sept1912
Crawley Elizabeth M Harman Kingston 2a 922

Births Mar 1914
CRAWLEY Ellen Harman Kingston 2a 895

You shouid be able to find any siblings born after 1911 showing mmn on freebmd

I am trying to find out about my grandfather. I am unable to find him on the 1921 census. He was on the 1911 census in Kingston, Surrey with his parents John Crawley and Mary Ann Crawley, nee Harman. He also had three brothers and two sisters as far as I know.

If anyone has any information about the family it would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Sharon