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KathleenBell
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31 Mar 2022 17:54 |
Could anyone with credits please look up a birth for me (although the name is common so might not be possible).
Jane Dixon, born c.1824 Father Robert (occ. Hind) Mother Jane.
In 1841 all three were living in Morpeth, Northumberland but it says they were all born Scotland.
In 1851 Jane says she was born Morpeth (but that could be because that is the only place she knew).
Thanks in advance.
EDIT - just realised that this would be before registration. Does Scotlandspeople have parish baptisms?
Kath. x
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ErikaH
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31 Mar 2022 17:58 |
Yes, there are Parish records on SP
You can easily check first yourself to see if a baptism is actually recorded
Have you tried familysearch?
Did she marry?
Do you know her denomination (faith-wise)?
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ErikaH
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31 Mar 2022 18:12 |
No results with both parents named as per your info
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ArgyllGran
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31 Mar 2022 18:16 |
The nearest possible baptism on SP is this one:
DIXON JANET ROBERT DIXON/JENNY EASTON FR282 (FR282) F 18/03/1827 (Date of baptism, not of birth) 807/20 26 Sprouston
Janet and Jenny can be variations of Jane.
She may not have been baptised in the year she was born.
You can look at the image of the original document on SP for 6 credits - though it probably won't tell you much more (if anything) than is in the transcription above.
Register free with SP, and buy the minimum amount of credits - 30 for £7.50.
Sprouston is near Kelso, and about 55 miles from Morpeth.
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KathleenBell
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31 Mar 2022 18:18 |
Thanks ErikaH
I've just set a new password on Scotlandspeople (I haven't used the site for nearly 20 years) and found no results the same as you.
I am looking at a family who may or may not be connected to my grandfather whose parents and baptism are a bit complicated and I haven't been able to get further back than his birth in a workhouse. The names in this family could mean they are connected but I could just be clutching at straws. I have had threads about it in the past with no real results.
Thanks for looking anyway.
Kath. x
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KathleenBell
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31 Mar 2022 18:25 |
Thanks ArgyllGran.
Because I know so little it's difficult to know which baptism might be her.
In 1851 census she gives her age as 27 and her married name at this time was Jane Gurney
I think she marries George Gurney in Sunderland in 1850 and must have a son and daughter from before she was married.
I'll have to leave it for now as I have things to do tonight.
Kath. x
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ArgyllGran
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31 Mar 2022 18:25 |
Baptisms of siblings of the above child, just in case:
DIXON GEORGE ROBERT DIXON/JENNET EASTON FR273 (FR273) M 21/04/1822 807/ 20 9 Sprouston
DIXON JAMES ROBERT DIXON/JENNY EASTON FR187 (FR187) M 05/07/1819 807/ 10 231 Sprouston
DIXON MARY ROBERT DIXON/JENNY EASTON FR277 (FR277) F 04/07/1824 807/20 17 Sprouston
No sign of the parents' marriage in Scotland.
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Maddie
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31 Mar 2022 18:28 |
from ancestry Name: Janet Dixon Gender: Female Age: 0 Birth Date: 25 Feb 1827 Baptism Date: 18 Mar 1827 Baptism Place: , Sprouston, Roxburgh, Scotland Residence Date: 1827 Residence Place: Sprouston, Roxburgh, Scotland Father: Robert Dixon Mother: Jenny Easton
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Glantlees, Alnwick, Northumberland, England
Robert Dixon Head Married Male 59 1792 Agricultural labourer Scotland Jane Dixon Wife Married Female 52 1799 - Scotland Jane Dixon Daughter Unmarried Female 27 1824 Empd partly in agre & partly in domestic duties Scotland Robert Dixon Grand son - Male 1 1850 - Lesbury, Northumberland, England
but this maybe above birth in the 1851 Scotland Census 1851 Scotland Census No Image Text-only collection
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Name: Janet Dixon Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relationship: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: Sprouston, Roxburghshire Parish Number: 807 Civil Parish: Sprouston County: Roxburghshire Address: Easter Softlaw Occupation: House Servant ED: 1 Page: 12 Household Schedule Number: 39 Line: 12 Roll: CSSCT1851_204 Household Members: Name Age
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KathleenBell
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31 Mar 2022 18:36 |
Thanks Maddie but that can't be the right Jane Dixon because the one I'm looking at is married (Jane Gurney) and living in Sunderland in the 1851 census.
Kath. x
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Mar 2022 18:54 |
Have you got the cert for it’s info
Marriages Mar 1850 Dixon Jane Sunderland 24 265 Gurney George Sunderland 24 265
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ArgyllGran
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31 Mar 2022 18:55 |
For our reference:
Jane Gurney in the 1851 England Census Name: Jane Gurney Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where Born: Merpeth, Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Sunderland Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Sunderland Sub-registration District: East Sunderland ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 112 Piece: 2397 Folio: 17 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Jane Gurney 27 William Gurney 3 - nephew Mary Ann Gurney 5 - niece Henry Dixon Gurney 5 - son Barbara Gurney 3 - daughter John Gurney 6 Mo - son Henry Dixon 29 - nephew, Morpeth
All the children born in Sunderland
GURNEY, JOHN GEORGE mmn DIXON GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION Volume 24 Page 369
DIXON, BARBARA - GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION Volume 24 Page 323
DIXON, GILBERT HENRY - GRO Reference: 1845 S Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION Volume 24 Page 314
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Mar 2022 18:57 |
Name: Jane Dixon Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Marriage Date: 28 Feb 1850 Marriage Place: Monk-Wearmouth, Durham, England Father: William Dixon >>>>>>>>> Spouse: George Gurney FHL Film Number: 1514568 Reference ID: 486
So not the right lady it looks like
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ArgyllGran
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31 Mar 2022 19:05 |
Just to be clear, Kath -
is the woman who married George Gurney the one you're interested in?
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ArgyllGran
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31 Mar 2022 19:12 |
Possibly her parents?
Note the mother's name is Barbara, and so is Jane's daughter's.
Wm Dixon in the 1841 England Census Name: Wm Dixon Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791 Gender: Male Where Born: Durham, England Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth Hundred: Chester (East Division) County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: Sunderland Sub-registration District: Monkwearmouth Neighbors: Piece: 299 Book: 3 Folio: 12 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Wm Dixon 50 - Durham, coal miner Barbara Dixon 30 - not born in county Elenor Dixon 12 - Durham John Dixon 14 - Durham - coal miner
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ArgyllGran
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31 Mar 2022 19:19 |
William Dixon in the 1851 England Census Name: William Dixon Age: 62 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1789 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Barbara Dixon Gender: Male Where Born: Northumberland, England Civil Parish: Monkwearmouth Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Sunderland Sub-registration District: Monk ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 189 Piece: 2398 Folio: 29 Page Number: 51 Household Members: Name Age William Dixon 62 - Northumberland Barbara Dixon 53 - Northumberland John Dixon 23 - Jarrow Eleanor Dixon 20 - Jarrow
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ErikaH
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31 Mar 2022 19:24 |
So the woman who married Gurney can’t be the one referred to in opening post, with father Robert
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ArgyllGran
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31 Mar 2022 19:36 |
Eleanor Dixon in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980 Name: Eleanor Dixon Gender: Female Christening Date: 6 Aug 1831 Christening Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Father: William Dixon Mother: Barbara Dixon
Ancestry suggests this may be William and Barbara's marriage:
Barbara Boag in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973 Name: Barbara Boag Gender: Female Marriage Date: 9 May 1817 Marriage Place: Heworth,Durham,England Spouse: William Dixon
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KathleenBell
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31 Mar 2022 21:42 |
Hi everyone - sorry I've been away from the computer for a few hours.
Before anyone spends any more time on this I should perhaps explain - but it's complicated.
My grandfather was John George Anderson born 25th August 1870 in the Mint Street Workhouse, Southwark.
Parents on the birth certificate were George Anderson and Mary Ann Dixon
However my grandfather's baptism record has him as John George Humble (?) father's name still George but mother's name Barby (presumably Barbara - as his mother was Barbara in all other records). I believe, but have no proof, that the name change could have been as a result of his father being unemployed and doing a moonlight flit. The Humble name was only used on the baptism and never again. My grandfather was always John George Anderson.
The reason for me looking at the Gurney family in 1851 is that on my grandfather's father's death certificate the informant was John Gurney who was described as brother-in-law. I know this John Gurney was in Painshaw, Durham in the 1911 census - the address is the same as on the death certificate of my great-grandfather. I have worked backwards with him and the only one that seems to fit is the John Gurney with mother Jane in Sunderland in the 1851 census.
As far as I know my great grandparents didn't have any other children and and I have a theory that the mother on my grandfather's birth certificate could have been a relative of Barbara (Barby) who had the child in the workhouse and gave him up to George and Barbara. It's very difficult to prove any of this but every few years I have another go at it.
Thanks for all your help.
Kath. x
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1 Apr 2022 00:12 |
Name: Jane Gurney Age: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Death Registration Place: Sunderland, Durham, United Kingdom Death Date: Jun 1880 Inferred Death Place: Durham, United Kingdom Volume: 10a Page: 336
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1 Apr 2022 02:00 |
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Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Northumberland Place (Links to more information) Morpeth Church name (Links to more information) St Mary the Virgin Register type (Links to more information) Other Transcript Baptism date 18 Apr 1824 Person forename Jane Person sex F Father forename William Mother forename Ann Father surname DIXON Person abode Morpeth Father occupation Hostler Transcribed by Stephen Andrews File line number
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