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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 May 2022 10:22

Still at home with her parents in 1921 aged 14 years 4 months
, Hutton Cranswick & Rotsea, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Sex Birth year Age in years Birth place Occupation Employer
Fred Simpson Head Male 1869 52 Yorkshire, England Farm Worker Ben Hansam Farmer Skerne
Mary Simpson Wife Female 1867 53 Norfolk, England At Home At H -
Sophia Simpson Daughter Female 1906 14 Yorkshire, England At Home -
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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2022 10:31

Four Simpson/Simpson births registered in Driffield district 1925-1932

The certs will give you mother's name.

Death of the one born 1925 - and in any case, she was legitimate

Igoe
Olive Doreen

2015
2015
England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019
Yorkshire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 May 2022 10:36

Who did she marry in 1936 ?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2022 10:45

There is NO marriage in 1936 for Sophia/Sophie Simpson recorded on freebmd

Incidentally, her birth was registered as Sophia ANN, as per 1911 census posted on page one

Please tell us WHO the woman married

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2022 12:11

Death of the woman from the 1939 posted above

Wright
Sophie Valerie
1907
1970
1970
England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 May 2022 12:27

As well as ruling out the 1925 Simpson/Simpson child registered in Driffield, we can also rule out the one born in 1926.

He's with (presumably) his mother in 1939.
As happens so often in the 1939 Register, his stated age is out by one year.


Clive Simpson
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Clive Simpson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1927
Residence Date: 1939
Address: Church Str. Kilham
Residence Place: Driffield, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Occupation: At School
Line Number: 21
Schedule Number: 18
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: Jcfl
Borough: Driffield
Registration district: 519/2
Household Members Age
Thomas Frost 70
Henrietta Frost 82
Martha F Simpson 45 - single, 3 Feb 1894, domestic duties housekeeper
Clive Simpson 12
This record is officially closed.
Fred J Morgantroy 55


Martha F was born as Florence Martha in 1894 Driffield.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 May 2022 12:40

Whoops went to edit and accidentally deleted

Manged to go back and copy the post

Sooooo


Are you sure she was Sophia Simpson born Yorkshire

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103 London Road, Chelmsford, Chelmsford M.B., Essex, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number
Harold B C Wright 24 Aug 1906 Male Branch Officer Manager Retail Millinery & Outfitting Stone Married 43 1
Sophie V Wright 13 Feb 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 43 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
The record for this person is officially closed.

Miss Sophie Valerie Simpson


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Name: Miss Sophie Valerie Simpson
Gender: Female
Residence Place: I. Landscape-View
Occupation: Nurse
Employer:Safron Walden Isolation Hospital
Marriage Date: 10 Jan 1935
Parents: Simpson
Spouse:
Harold Benjamin Wright
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First name(s) Sophie Valerie
District Cambridge
Last name Wright
County Cambridgeshire
Gender Female
Volume 4A
Birth day 13
Page 589
Birth month 2
Country England
Birth year 1907
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 2
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1970
Collections from Great Britain, England
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Sophie Valerie Wright
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Name: Sophie Valerie Wright
Birth Date: 1907
Death Date: Apr 1970
Cemetery: Saffron Walden Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Saffron Walden, Uttlesford District, Essex, England
Has Bio?: N
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/123002451/sophie-valerie-wright



Name: Sophie Valerie Wright
Register Type: Cremation
Death Date: abt 1970
Burial or Cremation Date: 13 Apr 1970
Burial or Cremation Place: Cambridgeshire, England
URL: https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch?DetsView=Summary&src=ext&fileid=602508

So looks like cremated in Cambridgeshire and ashes interred in saffron Walden

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2022 12:53

We need facts from the OP - the 1939 register transcription to which she referred would be an obvious starting point

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2022 13:03

???????
Births Jun 1937 (>99%)
Wright Bryan C Simpson Saffron W. 4a 1487

the 1997 death tells a different tale

WRIGHT, BRYAN CECIL 1929
GRO Reference: DOR Q1/1997 in LUTON (3151B) Reg B52F Entry Number 117

The above death is THIS person

Births Sep 1929 (>99%)
Wright Bryan C Fensome Luton 3b 514

Marriages Sep 1951 (>99%)
SANDERS Mary L WRIGHT Luton 4a 391
WRIGHT Bryan C SANDERS Luton 4a 391

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 May 2022 13:07

Posting for evaluation

WRIGHT, BRYAN CHARLES 1937
GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2005 in OLDHAM (0071C) Reg OC54B Entry Number 171

On ER 2002-2005

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 May 2022 13:14

Is the person you are helping in possession of her birth cert?

What is her first name?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 May 2022 12:28

PM sent informing Nicola that members are still trying to help her. Opened......................

Nicola

Nicola Report 8 May 2022 19:40

The lady I am helping first name is Jill born 1944. Her brother Bryan born in 1937 died aged 69. I am messaging her now for more info.

Nicola

Nicola Report 8 May 2022 19:52

Her brother Bryan married Beth Whitehead in Yorkshire.

Nicola

Nicola Report 8 May 2022 20:05

Her mother Sophia changed her second name from Ann to Valarie at some point.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 May 2022 22:04

Did you take note of the info I posted 5 May at 13.03?

Did the brother die in England/Wales?

Nicola

Nicola Report 8 May 2022 23:30

Bryan Charles Wright died 2005 in Oldham, Lancashire

Nicola

Nicola Report 8 May 2022 23:48

I did take note of your message on 5th May and have just heard back from Jill and she confirmed that her brother was Bryan Charles born 1937, not Bryan Cecil Wright.
So no further forward with finding who the other closed record is on 1939 register, Bryan Charles Wright is the second closed record, almost sure of that at least. The only other info is that Sophia mentioned training in nursing at Great Yarmouth and Hull prior to her marriage in 1935. Thanks for your help

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2022 08:47

There were no Simpson/Simpson births registered in either Yarmouth or Hull in 1928-35.

There were four in Norfolk as a whole - but all girls.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 May 2022 08:51

You stated in your opening post that the brother died in 1997, which is why I posted the various records I found.

The mother was employed at Saffron Walden hospital at the time of her marriage in January 1935

Why doesn’t Jill get copy birth certs? At £11.00 each, they are considerably cheaper than DNA, which is of no use in this situation