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Marie

Marie Report 20 Feb 2022 17:51

Please could someone help. I'm trying to help a friend out but struggling.
They are trying to find out info on,
William Kitcher b. 1814 Chelsea. We believe he was a sergeant in the army. He married Eleanor (Hogan) b. 1815 Ireland. I have no other info on her, as unable to find any marriage or birth details.
Known children,
William b. 1838 Carlisle
Jane b. 1841 Scarborough
Joseph b. 1849 Driffield.

I have found them all in the 1851 census and the 1861 census, but his wife is down as Elizabeth born in Lincolnshire.

I know William (1838) married Mary ? And they too had a son called William Henry Kitcher b.1866 Driffield.
Just finding it hard to locate any other info, unless I'm searching wrong.
Many thanks.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2022 18:05

Which site are you using?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Feb 2022 18:06

Could William (born 1814) have been called William Henry?

There is this marriage in Driffield:-

First name(s) William Henry
Country England
Last name Kitcher
Volume 9D
Marriage quarter 2
Volume as transcribed 9D
Marriage year 1856
Page number 402
Registration month -
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
MarriageFinder™ William Henry Kitcher married one of these people
>>>>>Elizabeth Barker,<<<<< Caroline Cox
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Driffield
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number -
Collections from Great Britain, England

There is also this death for an Eleanor although in a different area:-

First name(s) Eleanor
District Blackburn
Last name Kitcher
County Lancashire
Gender Female
Volume 8E
Birth day -
Page 194
Birth month -
Country England
Birth year -
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age -
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 2
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Death year 1855
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2022 18:08

William Henry died 17 Feb 1933

How did your friend work back to this family?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2022 18:09

William born 1814 almost certainly married Eleanor in Ireland

1856 looks like a second marriage -the cert will tell you his father’s name

Kayak

Kayak Report 20 Feb 2022 18:10

Marriage: William Kitcher + Mary Harrison Dec Q 1864 Driffield 9d 570

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Feb 2022 18:13

William born 1814 was William Henry and he too married a Mary. Here they are in 1881 census:-

22, Mill Street, Great Driffield, Driffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place

William H Kitcher Head Married Male 67 1814 Watchman Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Mary Kitcher Wife Married Female 62 1819 - Darlington, Durham, England

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Feb 2022 18:15

This could be the marriage:-

First name(s) William Henry
Country England
Last name Kitcher
Volume 9D
Marriage quarter 1
Volume as transcribed 9D
Marriage year 1863
Page number 408
Registration month -
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
MarriageFinder™ William Henry Kitcher married one of these people
>>>>>Mary Elizabeth Lancaster<<<<<, ? Butler
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
District Driffield
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
District number -
Collections from Great Britain, England

Kath. x

Marie

Marie Report 20 Feb 2022 18:26

Thank you.
My friend was given small bits of info many years ago by someone else.
I've used mainly family Search and freebmd, as I'm not subscribed to anything.
Does anyone know of other free sites I can use?

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Feb 2022 18:28

This looks like his army record on Findmypast:-

First name(s) William
Document type Discharge
Last name Kitcher
Archive reference WO 97
Birth year 1814 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913
Service number 634
Box 2016
Serjeant
Box record number 9
Regiment 81st Regt Of Foot
Archive The National Archives
Year 1831
Country Great Britain
Attestation date 27 Jan 1831
Record set British Army Service Records
Attestation age years 17
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Attestation age months 2
Subcategory Regimental & Service Records
Discharge corps 81st Regt Of Foot
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Discharge service number 634

The document says he was born in the Parish of St. Luke's in or near the town of Chelsea.

He asked to be discharged himself and relinquished his pension because he wanted to be discharged.

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 20 Feb 2022 18:38

This record of William Henry (born 1814) marriage to Elizabeth Barker gives his father's name as Aaron Kitcher:-

First name(s) William Henry
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Last name Kitcher
Spouse's father's last name Lambert
Birth year 1814
County Yorkshire (East Riding)
Age 42
Country England
Residence Wetwang
Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service
Marriage year 1856
Archive reference PE 48/8
Marriage date 09 Apr 1856
Event type Marriages
Marriage place Wetwang
Event year range 1837-1964
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Page 53
Spouse's last name Barker
Record set Yorkshire Marriages
Spouse's age 43
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Spouse's residence Great Driffield
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Father's first name(s) Aaron <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Collections from England, Great Britain
Father's last name Kitcher

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 20 Feb 2022 18:56

Joseph’s birth in 1848 confirms MMN Hogan

Marie

Marie Report 20 Feb 2022 19:13

Thank you so much.
Is there any free Irish records sites?

safc

safc Report 20 Feb 2022 20:23

there is an eleanor hogan marriage on this site 1833 give or take 5 years either way

and some william kitcher marriages

https://www.rootsireland.ie/ifhf/search.php

you have to register and is £13 pound for 1 day search


if you put in 1835 give or take 5 years then there's 2 marriages

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 20 Feb 2022 22:20

If the Eleanor Hogan marriage mentioned by Safc is this one, it's not the right one:

Eleanor Hogan
in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915
Name: Eleanor Hogan
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: Feb 1833
Marriage Place: Nenagh, Ireland, Ireland
Diocese: Killaloe
Spouse:
William Guilfoyle

But Eleanor Hogan isn't an uncommon name.
And Irish records are patchy.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2022 10:13

KITCHER, WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 264


So his mum was a Harrison

Marriage

Marriages Dec 1864
Harrison Mary Driffield 9d 570
Kitcher William Driffield 9d 570


1871 census
William Kitcher
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: 1839
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Great Driffield
Town: Great Driffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Driffield
Sub-registration district: Driffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 4807
Folio: 59
Page number: 10
Household Members Age Relationship
William Kitcher 32 Head
Mary Kitcher
29 Wife
William Hy Kitcher
5 Son
Mary Ann Kitcher
3 Daughter
Ann Elizth Kitcher
1 Daughter
Joseph Kitcher
0 Son
Maria Hodgson
12 Servant

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2022 10:22

KITCHER, WILLIAM HOGAN
GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in CARLISLE Volume 25 Page 59


1851 census

Name: William Ritcher
[William Kitcher]
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Ritcher
Mother's Name: Eleanor Ritcher
Gender: Male
Where Born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England >>>>>>>>>
Civil Parish: Great Driffield
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: Driffield
Sub-registration District: Foston
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 38
Piece: 2366
Folio: 218
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Ritcher 37
Eleanor Ritcher 36
William Ritcher 12
Jane Ritcher 10
Joseph Ritcher 2


So confirms the birth is the right mum

Edit

KITCHER, JOSEPH HOGAN
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in DRIFFIELD UNION Volume 23 Page 47


Jane doesn’t appear to have been registered

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2022 10:23

KITCHER, WILLIAM HENRY mmn HARRISON
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 264

KITCHER, MARY ANN mmn HARRISON
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 277

KITCHER, ANN ELIZABETH mmn HARRISON
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 260

KITCHER, JOSEPH mmn HARRISON
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 263


William Hy Kitcher
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William Hy Kitcher
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: 1866
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Driffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Great Driffield
Town: Great Driffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Driffield
Sub-registration district: Driffield
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 4807
Folio: 59
Page number: 10
Household Members Age Relationship
William Kitcher 32 Head - Carlisle
Mary Kitcher 29 Wife - Driffield
William Hy Kitcher 5 Son
Mary Ann Kitcher 3 Daughter
Ann Elizth Kitcher 1 Daughter
Joseph Kitcher 0 Son
Maria Hodgson 12 Servant

Address: 48 Church Street, Driffield


Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%)
Harrison Mary Driffield 9d 570
Kitcher William Driffield 9d 570

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Feb 2022 10:32

Eleanor's death:

KETCHER, HELEN 39
GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 162


Ellen Kitcher
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Ellen Kitcher
Gender: Female
Death Date: abt 1853
Burial Date: 27 Dec 1853
Burial Place: Great Driffield, York, England
FHL Film Number: 1471220
Reference ID: 2024

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Feb 2022 10:39

The Eleanor Kitcher who died in 1855 was only 1 year old so not your Eleanor

Possible death but it’s not on the gro

Name: Ellen Kitcher
Gender: Female
Death Date: abt 1853
Burial Date: 27 Dec 1853
Burial Place: Great Driffield, York, England
FHL Film Number: 1471220
Reference ID: 2024