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Marie
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20 Feb 2022 17:51 |
Please could someone help. I'm trying to help a friend out but struggling. They are trying to find out info on, William Kitcher b. 1814 Chelsea. We believe he was a sergeant in the army. He married Eleanor (Hogan) b. 1815 Ireland. I have no other info on her, as unable to find any marriage or birth details. Known children, William b. 1838 Carlisle Jane b. 1841 Scarborough Joseph b. 1849 Driffield.
I have found them all in the 1851 census and the 1861 census, but his wife is down as Elizabeth born in Lincolnshire.
I know William (1838) married Mary ? And they too had a son called William Henry Kitcher b.1866 Driffield. Just finding it hard to locate any other info, unless I'm searching wrong. Many thanks.
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ErikaH
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20 Feb 2022 18:05 |
Which site are you using?
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KathleenBell
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20 Feb 2022 18:06 |
Could William (born 1814) have been called William Henry?
There is this marriage in Driffield:-
First name(s) William Henry Country England Last name Kitcher Volume 9D Marriage quarter 2 Volume as transcribed 9D Marriage year 1856 Page number 402 Registration month - Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 MarriageFinder™ William Henry Kitcher married one of these people >>>>>Elizabeth Barker,<<<<< Caroline Cox Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Driffield Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce District number - Collections from Great Britain, England
There is also this death for an Eleanor although in a different area:-
First name(s) Eleanor District Blackburn Last name Kitcher County Lancashire Gender Female Volume 8E Birth day - Page 194 Birth month - Country England Birth year - Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Age - Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 2 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Death year 1855 Collections from Great Britain, England
Kath. x
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ErikaH
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20 Feb 2022 18:08 |
William Henry died 17 Feb 1933
How did your friend work back to this family?
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ErikaH
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20 Feb 2022 18:09 |
William born 1814 almost certainly married Eleanor in Ireland
1856 looks like a second marriage -the cert will tell you his father’s name
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Kayak
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20 Feb 2022 18:10 |
Marriage: William Kitcher + Mary Harrison Dec Q 1864 Driffield 9d 570
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KathleenBell
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20 Feb 2022 18:13 |
William born 1814 was William Henry and he too married a Mary. Here they are in 1881 census:-
22, Mill Street, Great Driffield, Driffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William H Kitcher Head Married Male 67 1814 Watchman Chelsea, Middlesex, England Mary Kitcher Wife Married Female 62 1819 - Darlington, Durham, England
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KathleenBell
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20 Feb 2022 18:15 |
This could be the marriage:-
First name(s) William Henry Country England Last name Kitcher Volume 9D Marriage quarter 1 Volume as transcribed 9D Marriage year 1863 Page number 408 Registration month - Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 MarriageFinder™ William Henry Kitcher married one of these people >>>>>Mary Elizabeth Lancaster<<<<<, ? Butler Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Driffield Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce District number - Collections from Great Britain, England
Kath. x
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Marie
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20 Feb 2022 18:26 |
Thank you. My friend was given small bits of info many years ago by someone else. I've used mainly family Search and freebmd, as I'm not subscribed to anything. Does anyone know of other free sites I can use?
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KathleenBell
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20 Feb 2022 18:28 |
This looks like his army record on Findmypast:-
First name(s) William Document type Discharge Last name Kitcher Archive reference WO 97 Birth year 1814 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Series Wo 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army Service Records 1760-1913 Service number 634 Box 2016 Serjeant Box record number 9 Regiment 81st Regt Of Foot Archive The National Archives Year 1831 Country Great Britain Attestation date 27 Jan 1831 Record set British Army Service Records Attestation age years 17 Category Military, armed forces & conflict Attestation age months 2 Subcategory Regimental & Service Records Discharge corps 81st Regt Of Foot Collections from Great Britain, UK None Discharge service number 634
The document says he was born in the Parish of St. Luke's in or near the town of Chelsea.
He asked to be discharged himself and relinquished his pension because he wanted to be discharged. Kath. x
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KathleenBell
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20 Feb 2022 18:38 |
This record of William Henry (born 1814) marriage to Elizabeth Barker gives his father's name as Aaron Kitcher:-
First name(s) William Henry Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas Last name Kitcher Spouse's father's last name Lambert Birth year 1814 County Yorkshire (East Riding) Age 42 Country England Residence Wetwang Archive East Riding Archives & Local Studies Service Marriage year 1856 Archive reference PE 48/8 Marriage date 09 Apr 1856 Event type Marriages Marriage place Wetwang Event year range 1837-1964 Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Page 53 Spouse's last name Barker Record set Yorkshire Marriages Spouse's age 43 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Spouse's residence Great Driffield Subcategory Parish Marriages Father's first name(s) Aaron <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Collections from England, Great Britain Father's last name Kitcher
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ErikaH
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20 Feb 2022 18:56 |
Joseph’s birth in 1848 confirms MMN Hogan
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Marie
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20 Feb 2022 19:13 |
Thank you so much. Is there any free Irish records sites?
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safc
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20 Feb 2022 20:23 |
there is an eleanor hogan marriage on this site 1833 give or take 5 years either way
and some william kitcher marriages
https://www.rootsireland.ie/ifhf/search.php
you have to register and is £13 pound for 1 day search
if you put in 1835 give or take 5 years then there's 2 marriages
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ArgyllGran
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20 Feb 2022 22:20 |
If the Eleanor Hogan marriage mentioned by Safc is this one, it's not the right one:
Eleanor Hogan in the Ireland, Catholic Parish Registers, 1655-1915 Name: Eleanor Hogan Gender: Female Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: Feb 1833 Marriage Place: Nenagh, Ireland, Ireland Diocese: Killaloe Spouse: William Guilfoyle
But Eleanor Hogan isn't an uncommon name. And Irish records are patchy.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 Feb 2022 10:13 |
KITCHER, WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 264
So his mum was a Harrison
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Marriages Dec 1864 Harrison Mary Driffield 9d 570 Kitcher William Driffield 9d 570
1871 census William Kitcher Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: 1839 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Great Driffield Town: Great Driffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Driffield Sub-registration district: Driffield ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 48 Piece: 4807 Folio: 59 Page number: 10 Household Members Age Relationship William Kitcher 32 Head Mary Kitcher 29 Wife William Hy Kitcher 5 Son Mary Ann Kitcher 3 Daughter Ann Elizth Kitcher 1 Daughter Joseph Kitcher 0 Son Maria Hodgson 12 Servant
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 Feb 2022 10:22 |
KITCHER, WILLIAM HOGAN GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in CARLISLE Volume 25 Page 59
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Name: William Ritcher [William Kitcher] Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Ritcher Mother's Name: Eleanor Ritcher Gender: Male Where Born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England >>>>>>>>> Civil Parish: Great Driffield Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Driffield Sub-registration District: Foston ED, institution, or vessel: 3c Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 38 Piece: 2366 Folio: 218 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age William Ritcher 37 Eleanor Ritcher 36 William Ritcher 12 Jane Ritcher 10 Joseph Ritcher 2
So confirms the birth is the right mum
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KITCHER, JOSEPH HOGAN GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in DRIFFIELD UNION Volume 23 Page 47
Jane doesn’t appear to have been registered
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ArgyllGran
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21 Feb 2022 10:23 |
KITCHER, WILLIAM HENRY mmn HARRISON GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 264
KITCHER, MARY ANN mmn HARRISON GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 277
KITCHER, ANN ELIZABETH mmn HARRISON GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 260
KITCHER, JOSEPH mmn HARRISON GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 263
William Hy Kitcher in the 1871 England Census Name: William Hy Kitcher Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: 1866 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where born: Driffield, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Great Driffield Town: Great Driffield County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Driffield Sub-registration district: Driffield ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Household schedule number: 48 Piece: 4807 Folio: 59 Page number: 10 Household Members Age Relationship William Kitcher 32 Head - Carlisle Mary Kitcher 29 Wife - Driffield William Hy Kitcher 5 Son Mary Ann Kitcher 3 Daughter Ann Elizth Kitcher 1 Daughter Joseph Kitcher 0 Son Maria Hodgson 12 Servant
Address: 48 Church Street, Driffield
Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%) Harrison Mary Driffield 9d 570 Kitcher William Driffield 9d 570
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ArgyllGran
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21 Feb 2022 10:32 |
Eleanor's death:
KETCHER, HELEN 39 GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in DRIFFIELD Volume 09D Page 162
Ellen Kitcher in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 Name: Ellen Kitcher Gender: Female Death Date: abt 1853 Burial Date: 27 Dec 1853 Burial Place: Great Driffield, York, England FHL Film Number: 1471220 Reference ID: 2024
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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21 Feb 2022 10:39 |
The Eleanor Kitcher who died in 1855 was only 1 year old so not your Eleanor
Possible death but it’s not on the gro
Name: Ellen Kitcher Gender: Female Death Date: abt 1853 Burial Date: 27 Dec 1853 Burial Place: Great Driffield, York, England FHL Film Number: 1471220 Reference ID: 2024
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