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Gerry
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19 Feb 2022 16:04 |
Emily had at least the following siblings - William James 1851, Alice 1854,Martha Letitia 1857 and Mary Isabel 1859
She married 1870 to Nathaniel. The cert says her father was George Rann, cab driver. Her mother was Mary Beamen
I cannot find anything about George and Mary. It is likely that George was from London
The 1861 Census is what I really need to find.
Can anyone help please
Gerry
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19 Feb 2022 16:14 |
Martha L Rann in the 1871 England Census Name: Martha L Rann Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: 1857 Relation: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Islington All Saints Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Islington West ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 49 Piece: 258 Folio: 69 Page number: 9 Household Members Age Relationship George Rann 49 Head - cab driver, Beaulieu, Hants. Mary A Rann 53 Wife - Sowley, Hants William J Rann 20 Son Alie Rann 16 Daughter Martha L Rann 14 Daughter Mary Isabel Rann 12 Daughter
George Raun in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973 Name: George Raun Gender: Male Marriage Date: 4 Apr 1841 Marriage Place: Millbrook, Hampshire, England Father: William Raun Spouse: Mary Ann Beamen FHL Film Number: 1041743 Reference ID: 87
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ArgyllGran
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19 Feb 2022 16:17 |
??? George Rann in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: George Rann Gender: Male Baptism Date: 28 Oct 1820 Baptism Place: Fawley, Southampton, England Father: James Rann Mother: Hester FHL Film Number: 1596131
George Ramm in the 1841 England Census Name: George Ramm [George Rann] Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where Born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Millbrook Hundred: Mainsbridge (Lower Half) County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: South Stoneham Sub-registration District: Millbrook Neighbors: Piece: 402 Book: 16 Folio: 23 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Mary Short 60 Joanna Everett 65 Jane Pope 3 George Ramm 20 - labourer Mary Ramm 20
George Rank in the 1851 England Census Name: George Rank [George Rann] Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Rank Gender: Male Where Born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: Pancras Sub-registration District: Tottenham Court ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 76 Piece: 1494 Folio: 416 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age George Rank 30 Mary Ann Rank 33 Fanny Rank 9 Charlotte Rank 5 George Rank 3 William James Rank 2 Mo William Charles Beamer 19 - visitor, Bolden, Hants
RANN, FANNY mmn BEAMEN GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 07 Page 197
RANN, CHARLOTTE mmn BEAMAN GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in OF NEW FOREST Volume 08 Page 198
RANN, CHARLES GEORGE mmn BEAMAN GRO Reference: 1848 M Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 07 Page 201
RANN, WILLIAM JAMES mmn BEAMEN GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01 Page 432
RANN, EMILY mmn BEAMEN GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 13
RANN, ALICE mmn BEAMAN GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 56
RANN, MARTHA LETITIA mmn BEAMAN GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in CLERKENWELL Volume 01B Page 494
RANN, MARY ISABEL mmn BEAMEN GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in CLERKENWELL Volume 01B Page 528
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ArgyllGran
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19 Feb 2022 16:23 |
George Rann in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: George Rann Age: 54 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Death Registration Place: Pancras, London, United Kingdom Death Date: Dec 1875 Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom Volume: 1b Page: 83
Mary Ann Rann in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Mary Ann Rann Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Death Registration Place: Islington, London, United Kingdom Death Date: Jun 1877 Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom Volume: 1b Page: 147
Can't see any of the family in 1861
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ArgyllGran
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19 Feb 2022 16:45 |
Fanny married in 1862, in St Pancras, so presumably they were living there in 1861.
George is listed as a greengrocer in 1862.
Fanny Rann in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936 Name: Fanny Rann Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1862 Marriage Place: St Pancras Parish Chapel, Camden, England Father: George Rann [greengrocer ] Spouse: William Woodard Register Type: Parish Register
Fanny in 1861, working away from London:
Fanny Wren in the 1861 England Census Name: Fanny Wren Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: 1841 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where Born: North Stoneham, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Brading Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration District: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 27 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 5 Piece: 659 Folio: 119 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name
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ArgyllGran
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19 Feb 2022 16:48 |
Charlotte's death:
Charlotte Rann in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991 Name: Charlotte Rann Death Age: 5 Birth Date: 1846 Death Date: abt 1851 Burial Date: 28 Aug 1851 Burial Place: St. Martin, Middlesex, England FHL Film Number: 561153 Reference ID: pg 131 no 673
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2022 16:52 |
Missing pieces of the 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Piece County City or borough Parish Ward M/I 145 Middlesex Islington Islington East (2) Islington M 217 Middlesex West London West London North (1) St Bartholomew the Less I 219 Middlesex West London West London South (2) Barnard"s Inn M 220 Middlesex London City London City SW (1) St Augustine Watling Street I 229 Middlesex London City London City NE (5) St Christopher le Stock
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ErikaH
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19 Feb 2022 16:53 |
The births posted above are on the FREE site
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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Gerry
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19 Feb 2022 16:55 |
Thank you so much AGAIN
I can move on now :-D
Gerry
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Maddie
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19 Feb 2022 16:59 |
Name: Mary Ann Beamen Gender: Female Marriage Date: 4 Apr 1841 Marriage Place: Millbrook, Hampshire, England Father: James Beamen Spouse: George Raun FHL Film Number: 1041743 Reference ID: 87
ancestry suggests
Name: Mary Anne Beamont Gender: Female Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1817 Baptism Place: Boldre By Lymington,Hampshire,England Father: James Beamont Mother: Fanny FHL Film Number: 1041250
Name: James Beamont Gender: Male Christening Date: 29 Oct 1786 Christening Place: Boldre, Hampshire, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: John Beamont Mother: Martha Beamont Search Photos: Search for 'Boldre' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
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Maddie
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19 Feb 2022 17:06 |
George Mother's first name(s) Frances Last name Rann Parish Beaulieu Birth year 1822 County Hampshire Baptism day 5 Country England Baptism month May Record set Hampshire Baptisms Baptism year 1822 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Son or daughter Son Subcategory Parish Baptisms Father's first name(s) Charles ------ but
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ArgyllGran
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19 Feb 2022 17:19 |
The baptism posted above by Maddie looks more likely than the other one I posted earlier, with parents James and Hester.
Charles Rann in the 1841 England Census Name: Charles Rann Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where Born: Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Beaulieu Hundred: Southampton Division Beaulieu Liberty County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: New Forest Sub-registration District: Fawley Neighbors: Piece: 402 Book: 1 Folio: 7 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Charles Rann 45 Fanny Rann 40 Benjman Rann 20 Eliza Rann 10 Stephen Rann 7
Charles Rann in the 1851 England Census Name: Charles Rann Age: 56 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Fanny Rann Gender: Male Where Born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Beaulieu Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration District: New Forest Sub-registration District: Lyndhurst ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 14 Piece: 1668 Folio: 130 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age Charles Rann 56 Fanny Rann 55 Stephen Rann 16 Elizabeth Foster 20 [ Porter on image] - daughter, married Fanny Foster 3 - grand-daughter [Porter on image]
Frances Rann in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Frances Rann Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Death Registration Place: New Forest, Hampshire, United Kingdom Death Date: Dec 1855 Inferred Death Place: Hampshire, United Kingdom Volume: 2b Page: 359
Remarriage for Charles: Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%) Crouch Sarah New Forest 2b 829 Rann Charles New Forest 2b 829
Charles Rann in the 1861 England Census Name: Charles Rann Age: 64 Estimated Birth Year: 1797 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Rann Gender: Male Where Born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Beaulieu Ecclesiastical parish: Beaulieu County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: New Forest Sub-registration District: Fawley ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 14 Piece: 671 Folio: 71 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Charles Rann 64 Sarah Rann 57 Emma Rann 17 - daughter-in-law (ie - stepdaughter ) June Rann 15 - ditto
CROUCH, JANE mmn DYMOTT GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in OF NEW FOREST Volume 08 Page 187
CROUCH, EMMA mmn DYMOTT GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in NEW FOREST UNION Volume 08 Page 184
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Maddie
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19 Feb 2022 17:27 |
Charles Bride's first name Fanny Last name Ran Bride's last name Maynard Marriage day 15 Bride's notes - Marriage month Nov County Hampshire Marriage year 1817 Country England Place Beaulieu Record set Hampshire Marriages Parish Beaulieu Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Groom's first name Charles Subcategory Parish Marriages Groom's last name Ran Collections from England, Great Britain Groom's notes -
just a thought george named a daughter fanny
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ArgyllGran
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19 Feb 2022 17:50 |
And one of his sons is Charles George. And a daughter Charlotte - maybe in case they didn't have a son to name Charles?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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19 Feb 2022 21:35 |
From freebmd
Marriages Jun 1841 BEAMEN Mary Ann S Stoneham 7 261 RANN George St Stoneham 7 261
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