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Emily Rann 1853 London

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 19 Feb 2022 21:35

From freebmd

Marriages Jun 1841
BEAMEN Mary Ann S Stoneham 7 261
RANN George St Stoneham 7 261

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Feb 2022 17:50

And one of his sons is Charles George.
And a daughter Charlotte - maybe in case they didn't have a son to name Charles?

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2022 17:27

Charles
Bride's first name Fanny
Last name Ran
Bride's last name Maynard
Marriage day 15
Bride's notes -
Marriage month Nov
County Hampshire
Marriage year 1817
Country England
Place Beaulieu
Record set Hampshire Marriages
Parish Beaulieu
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Groom's first name Charles
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Groom's last name Ran
Collections from England, Great Britain
Groom's notes -

just a thought george named a daughter fanny

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Feb 2022 17:19

The baptism posted above by Maddie looks more likely than the other one I posted earlier, with parents James and Hester.

Charles Rann
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Charles Rann
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where Born: Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Beaulieu
Hundred: Southampton Division Beaulieu Liberty
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: New Forest
Sub-registration District: Fawley
Neighbors:
Piece: 402
Book: 1
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Rann 45
Fanny Rann 40
Benjman Rann 20
Eliza Rann 10
Stephen Rann 7


Charles Rann
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Charles Rann
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1795
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny Rann
Gender: Male
Where Born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Beaulieu
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration District: New Forest
Sub-registration District: Lyndhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 14
Piece: 1668
Folio: 130
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Rann 56
Fanny Rann 55
Stephen Rann 16
Elizabeth Foster 20 [ Porter on image] - daughter, married
Fanny Foster 3 - grand-daughter [Porter on image]


Frances Rann
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Frances Rann
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: New Forest, Hampshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1855
Inferred Death Place: Hampshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 2b
Page: 359


Remarriage for Charles:
Marriages Sep 1860 (>99%)
Crouch Sarah New Forest 2b 829
Rann Charles New Forest 2b 829


Charles Rann
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Charles Rann
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Rann
Gender: Male
Where Born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Beaulieu
Ecclesiastical parish: Beaulieu
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: New Forest
Sub-registration District: Fawley
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 14
Piece: 671
Folio: 71
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Rann 64
Sarah Rann 57
Emma Rann 17 - daughter-in-law (ie - stepdaughter )
June Rann 15 - ditto


CROUCH, JANE mmn DYMOTT
GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in OF NEW FOREST Volume 08 Page 187

CROUCH, EMMA mmn DYMOTT
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in NEW FOREST UNION Volume 08 Page 184

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2022 17:06

George
Mother's first name(s) Frances
Last name Rann
Parish Beaulieu
Birth year 1822
County Hampshire
Baptism day 5
Country England
Baptism month May
Record set Hampshire Baptisms
Baptism year 1822
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Son or daughter Son
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Father's first name(s) Charles ------ but

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Feb 2022 16:59


Name: Mary Ann Beamen
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 4 Apr 1841
Marriage Place: Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Father:
James Beamen
Spouse:
George Raun
FHL Film Number: 1041743
Reference ID: 87

ancestry suggests

Name: Mary Anne Beamont
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 2 Feb 1817
Baptism Place: Boldre By Lymington,Hampshire,England
Father:
James Beamont
Mother:
Fanny
FHL Film Number: 1041250

Name: James Beamont
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 Oct 1786
Christening Place: Boldre, Hampshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
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Father: John Beamont
Mother: Martha Beamont
Search Photos: Search for 'Boldre' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection

Gerry

Gerry Report 19 Feb 2022 16:55

Thank you so much AGAIN

I can move on now :-D


Gerry

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2022 16:53

The births posted above are on the FREE site

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Feb 2022 16:52

Missing pieces of the 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census


Piece County City or borough Parish Ward M/I
145 Middlesex Islington Islington East (2) Islington M
217 Middlesex West London West London North (1) St Bartholomew the Less I
219 Middlesex West London West London South (2) Barnard"s Inn M
220 Middlesex London City London City SW (1) St Augustine Watling Street I
229 Middlesex London City London City NE (5) St Christopher le Stock

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Feb 2022 16:48

Charlotte's death:

Charlotte Rann
in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Charlotte Rann
Death Age: 5
Birth Date: 1846
Death Date: abt 1851
Burial Date: 28 Aug 1851
Burial Place: St. Martin, Middlesex, England
FHL Film Number: 561153
Reference ID: pg 131 no 673

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Feb 2022 16:45

Fanny married in 1862, in St Pancras, so presumably they were living there in 1861.

George is listed as a greengrocer in 1862.

Fanny Rann
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
Name: Fanny Rann
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 9 Jun 1862
Marriage Place: St Pancras Parish Chapel, Camden, England
Father: George Rann [greengrocer ]
Spouse: William Woodard
Register Type: Parish Register


Fanny in 1861, working away from London:

Fanny Wren
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Fanny Wren
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: 1841
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where Born: North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Brading
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration District: Ryde
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 5
Piece: 659
Folio: 119
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Feb 2022 16:23

George Rann
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: George Rann
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: Pancras, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1875
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1b
Page: 83

Mary Ann Rann
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Mary Ann Rann
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1819
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place: Islington, London, United Kingdom
Death Date: Jun 1877
Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom
Volume: 1b
Page: 147

Can't see any of the family in 1861

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Feb 2022 16:17

???
George Rann
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: George Rann
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 28 Oct 1820
Baptism Place: Fawley, Southampton, England
Father: James Rann
Mother: Hester
FHL Film Number: 1596131


George Ramm
in the 1841 England Census
Name: George Ramm
[George Rann]
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where Born: Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Millbrook
Hundred: Mainsbridge (Lower Half)
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: South Stoneham
Sub-registration District: Millbrook
Neighbors:
Piece: 402
Book: 16
Folio: 23
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Short 60
Joanna Everett 65
Jane Pope 3
George Ramm 20 - labourer
Mary Ramm 20



George Rank
in the 1851 England Census
Name: George Rank
[George Rann]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Rank
Gender: Male
Where Born: Beaulieu, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Pancras
Sub-registration District: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 76
Piece: 1494
Folio: 416
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
George Rank 30
Mary Ann Rank 33
Fanny Rank 9
Charlotte Rank 5
George Rank 3
William James Rank 2 Mo
William Charles Beamer 19 - visitor, Bolden, Hants



RANN, FANNY mmn BEAMEN
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 07 Page 197

RANN, CHARLOTTE mmn BEAMAN
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in OF NEW FOREST Volume 08 Page 198

RANN, CHARLES GEORGE mmn BEAMAN
GRO Reference: 1848 M Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 07 Page 201

RANN, WILLIAM JAMES mmn BEAMEN
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01 Page 432

RANN, EMILY mmn BEAMEN
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 13

RANN, ALICE mmn BEAMAN
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in SAINT PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 56

RANN, MARTHA LETITIA mmn BEAMAN
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in CLERKENWELL Volume 01B Page 494

RANN, MARY ISABEL mmn BEAMEN
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in CLERKENWELL Volume 01B Page 528

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 19 Feb 2022 16:14

Martha L Rann
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Martha L Rann
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: 1857
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Islington All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 49
Piece: 258
Folio: 69
Page number: 9
Household Members Age Relationship
George Rann 49 Head - cab driver, Beaulieu, Hants.
Mary A Rann 53 Wife - Sowley, Hants
William J Rann 20 Son
Alie Rann 16 Daughter
Martha L Rann 14 Daughter
Mary Isabel Rann 12 Daughter


George Raun
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973
Name: George Raun
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 4 Apr 1841
Marriage Place: Millbrook, Hampshire, England
Father: William Raun
Spouse: Mary Ann Beamen
FHL Film Number: 1041743
Reference ID: 87

Gerry

Gerry Report 19 Feb 2022 16:04

Emily had at least the following siblings - William James 1851, Alice 1854,Martha Letitia 1857 and Mary Isabel 1859

She married 1870 to Nathaniel. The cert says her father was George Rann, cab driver.

Her mother was Mary Beamen

I cannot find anything about George and Mary. It is likely that George was from London

The 1861 Census is what I really need to find.

Can anyone help please


Gerry