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ArgyllGran
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3 Feb 2022 17:40 |
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In the household of John Russell, 38, draper and grocer:
Henry Scott in the 1841 England Census Name: Henry Scott Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where Born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: Arington Hundred: Wetherley County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: Caxton Sub-registration District: Caxton Neighbors: Piece: 75 Book: 1 Folio: 4 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Buthny 16 Henry Scott 20 Ellin Green 3
John Russell and his wife Mary, 30, are transcribed as a separate household on Ancestry.
In 1871 Henry is a grocer's shopman; in 1881 a grocer (invalid);
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ArgyllGran
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3 Feb 2022 17:32 |
Phew!
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3 Feb 2022 15:46 |
Problem solved!
Two Henry Scotts. I've just found my Henry Scott aged 30 born in Haslingfield Cambridgeshire in the 1851 census. Single, Draper's Assistant Lliving in St Ives Huntingdonshire where he marries Mary Ann Field in 1853.
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3 Feb 2022 13:31 |
Thanks again to you both.
AG, Yes I agree, I do need to get that marriage certificate for Mary Ann and Henry.
It's looking very much like there were two Henry Scotts.
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ArgyllGran
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3 Feb 2022 13:24 |
One of William and Sarah's children:
SCOTT, WILLIAM CHRISTOPHER mmn BROWN GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in CAMBRIDGE Volume 14 Page 15
That family in 1841:
Henry Scott in the 1841 England Census Name: Henry Scott Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Male Where Born: Cambridgeshire, England Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less Hundred: Cambridge Borough County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: Cambridge Sub-registration District: St Andrew the Less Neighbors: Piece: 85 Book: 23 Folio: 10 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Henry Scott 25 Sarah Scott 20 William Scott 2 Mary Anne Scott 4 Mo
Thinking it over again -
As already shown, that Henry (the one with father Thomas) is with his parents-in-law and his children in 1861 and 1871.
But Mary Ann Scott is on her own with other children in 1861, and with her husband Henry (born Haslingfield with father David) and children in 1871.
Definitely a different Henry.
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Maddie
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3 Feb 2022 12:49 |
henry is not with susanha in 1841 and the only oher 1841 census for henry is with sara i wonder is this sarah
Name: Age at Death (in years): SCOTT, SARAH 28 GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in CAMBRIDGE Volume 14 Page 8
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ArgyllGran
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2 Feb 2022 23:07 |
Henry's not with Mary Ann in 1861:
Mary Ann Scott in the 1861 England Census Name: Mary Ann Scott Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: 1828 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where Born: Deptford, Kent, England Civil Parish: Hilton County/Island: Huntingdonshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration District: St Ives Sub-registration District: St Ives ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: Household Schedule Number: 34 Piece: 980 Folio: 55 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Scott 33 Samuel Henry Scott 7 Joseph Bond Scott 5 Henry Edward Scott 4 Aaron Fields Scott 1
Is Henry's father named on his marriage to Mary Ann?
What makes you think that your Henry had been married before? Presumably the 1861 and 1851 censuses where a Henry Scott is with his Brown parents-in-law. Unfortunately, that Henry's birthplace is only given as Cambridgeshire in 1841, 1851, and 1861.
The Henry who married Sarah Brown may be a different Henry - UNLESS the clerk made a mistake with the father's name Thomas. I think you need to see the Scott/Field marriage cert - for Henry's father's name, and also his marital status.
Your Henry is the one born in Haslingden with parents David and Susanna, so Nathan's middle name is indeed from Susanna's surname.
Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%) SCOTT Mary Ann 64 Caxton 3b 261
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Kayak
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2 Feb 2022 18:53 |
Thanks all help much appreciated.
My starting point was with Nathan Bond Scott born 1864 MMN Field he was baptised 5th June 1864 in Orwell Cambridgshire son of Henry and Mary Ann Scott. I found the 1853 marriage, Henry Scott + Mary Field. Found the family in the 1871 census that AG posted above. Having looked at earlier census records for Henry (prior to 1853) I then found a previous marriage for Henry to Sarah Brown. BUT Henry's father was named Thomas on that marriage record not David David Scott married Susanna Bond in 1812 in Haslingfield so thought that this was where Nathan's middle name came from. so am confused :-( :-(
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ArgyllGran
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2 Feb 2022 17:22 |
Marriage from FreeBMD
Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%) BAILEY Frances Cambridge 3b 808 SCOTT Henry Cambridge 3b 808
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Maddie
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2 Feb 2022 17:01 |
this census matches area for burial
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census East Road, St Benedict, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England View original record Household members (2 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Henry Scott Head - Male 53 1818 - Cambridgeshire, England Frances Scott Wife - Female 51 1820 - Cambridgeshire, England
Name: Frances Bailey Spouse Surname: Scott Registration Year: 1864 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Cambridge Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Cambridgeshire Volume: 3b Page: 80 Records on Page: Name Frances Bailey John Cory Mary Ann Searl
Name: Frances Scott Age: 73 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Death Registration Place: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom Death Date: Jun 1889 Inferred Death Place: Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom Volume: 3b Page: 272
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ArgyllGran
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2 Feb 2022 16:52 |
This is probably the Henry with parents David and Susanna (assuming that's the birth you had seen) :
Henry Scott in the 1871 England Census Name: Henry Scott Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: 1818 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Haslingfield, Cambridgeshire, England <<<<<< Civil parish: Orwell Ecclesiastical parish: Ely Town: Orwell County/Island: Cambridgeshire Country: England Registration district: Caxton Sub-registration district: Caxton ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Household schedule number: 107 Piece: 1577 Folio: 63 Page number: 19 Household Members Age Relationship Henry Scott 53 Head Mary A Scott 43 Wife - Deptford, Kent. [ nee Field; married 1853 St Ives ] Joseph Scott 15 Son Aaron Scott 11 Son Bertha Scott 9 Daughter Nathan Scott 6 Son
Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%) Scott Henry 87 Caxton 3b 287
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Maddie
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2 Feb 2022 16:36 |
i see what you mean, cant find a birthwith father thomas maybe this his death rather than the caxton one that seems to be davids son
Henry District Cambridge Last name Scott County Cambridgeshire Gender Male Volume 3B Birth day - Page 345 Birth month - Country England Birth year 1816 Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Age 58 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Death quarter 4 Subcategory Civil De
Henry Church St Benedict Last name Scott Denomination Anglican Birth year 1816 County Cambridgeshire Age 58 Country England Death year 1874 Record set National Burial Index For England & Wales Burial year 1874 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Burial date 02 Oct 1874 Subcategory Parish Burials Place Cambridge
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Kayak
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2 Feb 2022 15:42 |
Thanks Maddie, Yes I do have those two census records. I now also have a problem. I had Henry's father as David but the marriage record had him as Thomas so it looks like I'll have to look into this further. :-(
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Maddie
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2 Feb 2022 15:27 |
i assume you have this
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Coldham Lane, Saint Andrew the Less, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England View original record Household members (6 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Stephen Brown Head Widower Male 69 1782 Butcher Cambridgeshire, England Hannah Brown Daughter Unmarried Female 46 1805 - Cambridgeshire, England Henry Scott Son in law Widower Male 32 1819 Labourer Cambridgeshire, England William Scott Grand son - Male 12 1839 - Cambridgeshire, England Mary A Scott Grand daughter - Female 10 1841 - Cambridgeshire, England Henry Scott Grand son - Male 8 1843 - Cambridgeshire, England
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 14, Coldham Lane, St Andrew the Less, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England View original record Household members (5 people) First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Stephen Brown Head Widower Male 79 1782 Butcher Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Hannah Brown Daughter Unmarried Female 58 1803 House keeper Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Henry Scott Son in law Unmarried Male 43 1818 Labourer Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Mary Ann Scott Granddaughter Unmarried Female 26 1835 House keeper Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Henry Scott Grandson Unmarried Male 18 1843 Labourer Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
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Maddie
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2 Feb 2022 15:13 |
Henry Groom's father's occupation cook Last name Scott Bride's first name(s) Sarah (x) Birth year - Bride's last name BROWN Marriage year 1838 Bride's marital status sp Marriage day 26 Bride's occupation [blank] Marriage month Nov Bride's residence of Coldham Lane Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Bride's father's first name(s) Stephen Spouse's last name Brown Bride's father's occupation butcher Place Cambridge, St Andrew the Less By licence or banns by banns Groom's first name(s) Henry County Cambridgeshire Groom's last name SCOTT Country England Groom's marital status bac Record set Cambridgeshire Marriages Groom's age full Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Groom's occupation lab Subcategory Parish Marriages Groom's residence of Coldham Lane Collections from England, Great Britain Groom's father's first name(s) Thomas
Sarah Father occupation butcher Last name Brown Mother's first name(s) Mary Birth year 1820 Notes - Birth date ? ? 1820 County Cambridgeshire Baptism year 1820 Record set Cambridgeshire Baptisms Baptism date 26 Nov 1820 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Abode otp Subcategory Parish Baptisms Place Cambridge, St Andrew the Less Collections from England, Great Britain Father's first name(s) Stephen
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Kayak
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2 Feb 2022 15:01 |
Hi,
Please could someone with access to FMP post the details for the following marriage:
Henry Scott + Sarah Brown 1838 Cambridge St Andrew the Less
TIA Kayak
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