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Hi,

Please could someone with access to FMP post the details for the following marriage:

Henry Scott + Sarah Brown 1838 Cambridge St Andrew the Less

TIA
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Henry
Groom's father's occupation cook
Last name Scott
Bride's first name(s) Sarah (x)
Birth year -
Bride's last name BROWN
Marriage year 1838
Bride's marital status sp
Marriage day 26
Bride's occupation [blank]
Marriage month Nov
Bride's residence of Coldham Lane
Spouse's first name(s) Sarah
Bride's father's first name(s) Stephen
Spouse's last name Brown
Bride's father's occupation butcher
Place Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
By licence or banns by banns
Groom's first name(s) Henry
County Cambridgeshire
Groom's last name SCOTT
Country England
Groom's marital status bac
Record set Cambridgeshire Marriages
Groom's age full
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Groom's occupation lab
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Groom's residence of Coldham Lane
Collections from England, Great Britain
Groom's father's first name(s) Thomas

Sarah
Father occupation butcher
Last name Brown
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Birth year 1820
Notes -
Birth date ? ? 1820
County Cambridgeshire
Baptism year 1820
Record set Cambridgeshire Baptisms
Baptism date 26 Nov 1820
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Abode otp
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Place Cambridge, St Andrew the Less
Collections from England, Great Britain
Father's first name(s) Stephen

i assume you have this

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Coldham Lane, Saint Andrew the Less, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
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Household members (6 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Stephen Brown Head
Widower Male 69 1782 Butcher Cambridgeshire, England
Hannah Brown Daughter
Unmarried Female 46 1805 - Cambridgeshire, England
Henry Scott Son in law
Widower Male 32 1819 Labourer Cambridgeshire, England
William Scott Grand son
- Male 12 1839 - Cambridgeshire, England
Mary A Scott Grand daughter
- Female 10 1841 - Cambridgeshire, England
Henry Scott Grand son
- Male 8 1843 - Cambridgeshire, England

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
14, Coldham Lane, St Andrew the Less, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
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Household members (5 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Stephen Brown Head
Widower Male 79 1782 Butcher Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Hannah Brown Daughter
Unmarried Female 58 1803 House keeper Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Henry Scott Son in law
Unmarried Male 43 1818 Labourer Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Mary Ann Scott Granddaughter
Unmarried Female 26 1835 House keeper Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
Henry Scott Grandson
Unmarried Male 18 1843 Labourer Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England

Thanks Maddie, Yes I do have those two census records. I now also have a problem.
I had Henry's father as David but the marriage record had him as Thomas so it looks like I'll have to look into this further. :-(

i see what you mean, cant find a birthwith father thomas
maybe this his death rather than the caxton one that seems to be davids son

Henry
District Cambridge
Last name Scott
County Cambridgeshire
Gender Male
Volume 3B
Birth day -
Page 345
Birth month -
Country England
Birth year 1816
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Age 58
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death quarter 4
Subcategory Civil De

Henry
Church St Benedict
Last name Scott
Denomination Anglican
Birth year 1816
County Cambridgeshire
Age 58
Country England
Death year 1874
Record set National Burial Index For England & Wales
Burial year 1874
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Burial date 02 Oct 1874
Subcategory Parish Burials
Place Cambridge

This is probably the Henry with parents David and Susanna (assuming that's the birth you had seen) :

Henry Scott
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Henry Scott
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: 1818
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Haslingfield, Cambridgeshire, England <<<<<<
Civil parish: Orwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Ely
Town: Orwell
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Registration district: Caxton
Sub-registration district: Caxton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Household schedule number: 107
Piece: 1577
Folio: 63
Page number: 19
Household Members Age Relationship
Henry Scott 53 Head
Mary A Scott 43 Wife - Deptford, Kent. [ nee Field; married 1853 St Ives ]
Joseph Scott 15 Son
Aaron Scott 11 Son
Bertha Scott 9 Daughter
Nathan Scott 6 Son


Deaths Mar 1904 (>99%)
Scott Henry 87 Caxton 3b 287

this census matches area for burial

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
East Road, St Benedict, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England
View original record
Household members (2 people)
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Henry Scott Head
- Male 53 1818 - Cambridgeshire, England
Frances Scott Wife
- Female 51 1820 - Cambridgeshire, England

Name: Frances Bailey
Spouse Surname: Scott
Registration Year: 1864
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Cambridge
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 80
Records on Page:
Name
Frances Bailey
John Cory
Mary Ann Searl

Name: Frances Scott
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place: Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Jun 1889
Inferred Death Place: Cambridgeshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 3b
Page: 272

Marriage from FreeBMD

Marriages Sep 1864 (>99%)
BAILEY Frances Cambridge 3b 808
SCOTT Henry Cambridge 3b 808

Thanks all help much appreciated.

My starting point was with Nathan Bond Scott born 1864 MMN Field he was baptised 5th June 1864 in Orwell Cambridgshire son of Henry and Mary Ann Scott. I found the 1853 marriage, Henry Scott + Mary Field. Found the family in the 1871 census that AG posted above. Having looked at earlier census records for Henry (prior to 1853) I then found a previous marriage for Henry to Sarah Brown. BUT Henry's father was named Thomas on that marriage record not David
David Scott married Susanna Bond in 1812 in Haslingfield so thought that this was where Nathan's middle name came from. so am confused :-( :-(

Henry's not with Mary Ann in 1861:

Mary Ann Scott
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Mary Ann Scott
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: 1828
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where Born: Deptford, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Hilton
County/Island: Huntingdonshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration District: St Ives
Sub-registration District: St Ives
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 34
Piece: 980
Folio: 55
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Scott 33
Samuel Henry Scott 7
Joseph Bond Scott 5
Henry Edward Scott 4
Aaron Fields Scott 1


Is Henry's father named on his marriage to Mary Ann?

What makes you think that your Henry had been married before?
Presumably the 1861 and 1851 censuses where a Henry Scott is with his Brown parents-in-law.
Unfortunately, that Henry's birthplace is only given as Cambridgeshire in 1841, 1851, and 1861.

The Henry who married Sarah Brown may be a different Henry - UNLESS the clerk made a mistake with the father's name Thomas.
I think you need to see the Scott/Field marriage cert - for Henry's father's name, and also his marital status.

Your Henry is the one born in Haslingden with parents David and Susanna, so Nathan's middle name is indeed from Susanna's surname.

Deaths Dec 1891 (>99%)
SCOTT Mary Ann 64 Caxton 3b 261

henry is not with susanha in 1841 and the only oher 1841 census for henry is with sara
i wonder is this sarah

Name: Age at Death (in years):
SCOTT, SARAH 28
GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in CAMBRIDGE Volume 14 Page 8

One of William and Sarah's children:

SCOTT, WILLIAM CHRISTOPHER mmn BROWN
GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in CAMBRIDGE Volume 14 Page 15

That family in 1841:

Henry Scott
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Henry Scott
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where Born: Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: St Andrew The Less
Hundred: Cambridge Borough
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Cambridge
Sub-registration District: St Andrew the Less
Neighbors:
Piece: 85
Book: 23
Folio: 10
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Scott 25
Sarah Scott 20
William Scott 2
Mary Anne Scott 4 Mo


Thinking it over again -

As already shown, that Henry (the one with father Thomas) is with his parents-in-law and his children in 1861 and 1871.

But Mary Ann Scott is on her own with other children in 1861, and with her husband Henry (born Haslingfield with father David) and children in 1871.

Definitely a different Henry.

Thanks again to you both.

AG, Yes I agree, I do need to get that marriage certificate for Mary Ann and Henry.

It's looking very much like there were two Henry Scotts.

Problem solved!

Two Henry Scotts. I've just found my Henry Scott aged 30 born in Haslingfield Cambridgeshire in the 1851 census. Single, Draper's Assistant Lliving in St Ives Huntingdonshire where he marries Mary Ann Field in 1853.

Phew!

???

In the household of John Russell, 38, draper and grocer:

Henry Scott
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Henry Scott
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where Born: Cambridgeshire, England
Civil Parish: Arington
Hundred: Wetherley
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Caxton
Sub-registration District: Caxton
Neighbors:
Piece: 75
Book: 1
Folio: 4
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Buthny 16
Henry Scott 20
Ellin Green 3

John Russell and his wife Mary, 30, are transcribed as a separate household on Ancestry.


In 1871 Henry is a grocer's shopman; in 1881 a grocer (invalid);