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Barry
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12 Jan 2022 18:45 |
thanks everyone that helps a lot
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ArgyllGran
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12 Jan 2022 15:47 |
Hettie W Woodrow in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Hettie W Woodrow Gender: Female Marital Status: Married Birth Date: 28 Oct 1888 Residence Date: 1939 Address: 5 Hill View Residence Place: Uckfield, Sussex, England Occupation: Housewife Line Number: 8 Schedule Number: 212 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: EKTB Borough: Uckfield Inferred Spouse: Frank T Woodrow Inferred Children: Esme D Woodrow Douglas S J Woodrow Leslie L Woodrow Keith D Woodrow Household Members Age Frank T Woodrow 50 Hettie W Woodrow 51 Esme D Woodrow 23 Douglas S J Woodrow 20 Leslie L Woodrow 16 Keith D Woodrow 14
Hettie W Woodrow in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Hettie W Woodrow Death Age: 80 Birth Date: abt 1889 Registration Date: Jan 1969[Feb 1969] [Mar 1969] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration District: Tonbridge Inferred County: Kent Volume: 5f Page: 1029
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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12 Jan 2022 10:15 |
Army enlistment
Harold George Powsey Woodrow Birth Date: 8 Jun 1911 Birth Place: East Grimstead Military Date: 1915 Relationship to Soldier: Child Form Title: Descriptive Report Enlistment Other Records: Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Frank Thomas Woodrow Self (Head) Hettie Winifred Creussy Spouse Harold George Powsey Woodrow Child Wilfred Frank Woodrow Child Esme Doris Woodrow Child Save Cancel Source Citation The National Archives; Kew, Surrey, England; War Office: Soldiers’ Documents, Firs
So looks like he may be the Illegitimate son of Hettie Creasey
Births Dec 1888 Creasey Hettie Winifred E. Grinstead 2b 154
Pawsey could be a ref to the father surname
She was living at home with parents James and Esther in 1911 !
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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12 Jan 2022 10:09 |
The only way to know is to buy Harold’s birth cert
Maybe he was the illegitimate son of one of the daughters
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greyghost
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11 Jan 2022 23:46 |
An ancestry tree shows on an Army enlistment form that a daughter of James and Esther - Hettie Winifred Creasey - married on 25 Dec 1913 to Frank Thomas Woodrow.
Children listed as Harold 8.6.1911, Wilfred Frank 1.12.1913 and Esme Doris 1.5.1916, although elsewhere Harold's name appears to have been struck thorough (unless it's a crease in the paper!).
There are other children after this as per tree after Frank Woodrow's Army service was completed.
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11 Jan 2022 23:32 |
1921 - Harold, James, Esther and 4 others are on the census
By manipulating, the others may include Cela J b 1920, Ernest H, Florence M 1899, Violet L 1901
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11 Jan 2022 23:21 |
FMP shows I've looked at records for this family before do you have another thread?
Several others about the Creasey family - with the second of these two at least involving the 1911 family members. on one you say Violet Louisa has no Father named?
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1332843?page=1
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1324687
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greyghost
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11 Jan 2022 23:14 |
FMP shows I've looked at records for this family before do you have another thread?
1911 Census For England & Wales 11 Council Terrace Dormans Park Road E Grinstead, East Grinstead, Sussex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship to head Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James Creasey Head Married Male 47 1864 General labourer Sussex East Grinstead Esther Creasey Wife Married Female 47 1864 - Surrey Horley Nellie Winifred Creasey Daughter Single Female 22 1889 General servant domestic Sussex East Grinstead Ernest Harold Creasey Son - Male 14 1897 - Sussex East Grinstead Florence May Creasey Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Sussex East Grinstead Violet Louisa Creasey Daughter - Female 9 1902 School Sussex East Grinstead
Married 22 years. 8 children born all living
Check other census, may be a child of one of the daughters of this family
Check GRO site for all children of James and Esther
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greyghost
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11 Jan 2022 23:12 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: CREASEY, ERNEST HAROLD BUCKLAND GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in EAST GRINSTEAD Volume 02B Page 147
CREASEY, VIOLET LOUISA BUCKLAND GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in EAST GRINSTEAD Volume 02B Page 139
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greyghost
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11 Jan 2022 23:10 |
1939 Register
11 Council Terrace, East Grinstead, East Grinstead U.D., Sussex, England
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth date Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule sub number Ernest H Creasey 24 Sep 1896 Male General Garage Hand London Passenger Transport Board Single 129 1 Violet L Creasey 29 Sep 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 129 2 Harold G Creasey 08 Jun 1911 Male Bus Conductor London Passenger Transport Board Single 129 3 The record for this person is officially closed. Kenneth Whitaker 31 Dec 1930 Male At School Single 129 4 Male
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11 Jan 2022 23:05 |
Using the free site (register but free to use) https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp#Results
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: CREASEY, HAROLD GEORGE PAWSEY - GRO Reference: 1911 S Quarter in EAST GRINSTEAD Volume 02B Page 239
although as it's Q3 1911 then the info will be on freebmd but second names not given in full https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Sep 1911 (>99%) CREASEY Harold G P Creasey E. Grinstead 2b 239
As the GRO site shows a - under the Mother's maiden name it's likely that he was illegitimate.
You may have to get a copy of the birth certificate to determine the Mother's name.
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Barry
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11 Jan 2022 22:27 |
Hi all does any one know who the mother of Harold GP Creasey from East Grinstead is born 1911 ,Found him on the 1921 census but not sure who his mother is.
If you can not help thats ok. Thanks
Barry
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