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28 Dec 2021 21:37 |
I am trying to find this lady and her parents in the census. She was born in 1871 in Kentish Town Camden I think the mothers name is Jackson. Louisa married Augustus Weil in 1895, Regent park Middlesex. He died in 1897, she then married. Henry Charles Oakes born 1862, and they married in 1902 in Wandsworth. I found Ann Elizabeth Jackson that married Alois Philipp Janson in 1867in Pancras district. On the banns of marriage which I found on Ancestry for Louisa and Augustus it has her father as Aloysius Philip Theodore Janson occupation a baker. If anyone can help me find the parents on census or anything about them that would be wonderful. Thank you.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Dec 2021 21:44 |
Have you bought any of the certificates to confirm it’s the lady you are looking at
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Jackie
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28 Dec 2021 21:47 |
No I haven't
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Dec 2021 21:47 |
Her birth
JANSON, LOUISA CATHERINE JACKSON GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in ST PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 144 Parents simply because it’s the same reg district and ties with what you found
Marriages Dec 1867 JACKSON Anne Elizabeth Pancras 1b 324 JANSON Alois Philipp Pancras 1b 324
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Dec 2021 21:55 |
Simply because it’s coming up
Name: Augustus Weil Gender: Male Marriage Age: 45 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1850 Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1895 Marriage Place: St Mark, Regent´s Park, Camden, England Father: Ludwig Weil Spouse: Louisa Catharine Janson Register Type: Parish Register
Louisa Catharine Janson Gender: Female Marriage Age: 24 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1871 Marriage Date: 29 Sep 1895 Marriage Place: St Mark, Regent´s Park, Camden, England Father: Aloysius Philip Theodore Janson Spouse: Augustus Weil Register Type: Parish Register
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28 Dec 2021 21:56 |
Bertha Olive Weil Gender: Female Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 20 Jan 1898 Baptism Place: St Mark, Regent´s Park, Camden, England Father: Augustus Weil Mother: Louisa Catherine Weil Register Type: Parish Register
Augustus Weil Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Death Registration Place: Poplar, London, United Kingdom Death Date: Sep 1897 Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom Volume: 1c Page: 449
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Dec 2021 21:59 |
Looks like her father died in 1899
Alois Philipp Janson Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Camberwell, London, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1899 Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom Volume: 1d Page: 521
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Mother ?
Annie Janson Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Camberwell, London, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1894 Inferred Death Place: London, United Kingdom Volume: 1d Page: 588
Anne Janson Birth Date: 1847 Death Date: 27 Mar 1894 Cemetery: Camberwell Old Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Camberwell, London Borough of Southwark, Greater London, England Has Bio?: N URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218224873/anne-janson
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Dec 2021 22:02 |
Possible with grandparents or family 1881 census Louisa C. Janlin ? [Louisa C. Janson] Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relationship to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Where Born: Kentish Town, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 25 Quadrant Grove Education: Employment status: View image Registration District: Pancras Sub registration district: Kentish Town ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 214 Folio: 108 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Matthew Jackson 69 Anne Jackson 58 Martha Jackson 32 Thomas C. Jackson 24 Arthur M. Jackson 20 Louisa C. Janson 9 John Dixon 36
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Jackie
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28 Dec 2021 22:07 |
Oh will have a look thank you very much Shirley for looking .
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28 Dec 2021 22:08 |
1901 census
Louisa Weil Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Relation to Head: Niece Gender: Female Birth Place: St Pancras, London, England Civil Parish: St Pancras Search Photos: Search for 'St Pancras' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew County/Island: London Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration District: St Pancras Sub-registration District: Kentish Town ED, institution, or vessel: 09 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 154 Folio: 14 Page Number: 20 Household Schedule Number: 160 Household Members: Name Age Martha Jackson 49 Louisa Weil 29 Maud Jansen 14 niece Leonard Weil 4 Olive Weil 3
Birth WEIL, LEONARD CECIL JANSON GRO Reference: 1897 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 685
WEIL, BERTHA OLIVE JANSON GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 6
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ArgyllGran
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28 Dec 2021 22:12 |
EDIT:
NO this isn't the right man. See the correct 1891 posted on 29 Dec at 13:35.
??? Philip Jansen in the 1891 England Census Name: Philip Jansen Gender: Male Age: 50 Relationship: Servant Birth Year: 1841 Birth Place: Casell, Germany Civil parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: Kennington St James Church Residence Place: Lambeth, London, England Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Kennington First ED, Institution or Vessel: 4 Neighbors: Piece: 398 Folio: 93 Household Members Age Relationship George Willer 29 Head - baker, Germany Philip Jansen 50 Servant - married Chas Warwick 20 Servant Fanny Braslow 37 Servant
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Jackie
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28 Dec 2021 22:25 |
Thank you.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Dec 2021 22:37 |
A brother
Aloyaius Leonard H Country England Last name Janson Volume 1D Birth quarter 4 Page 939 Birth year 1888 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006 Mother's maiden name Jackson Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Camberwell Subcategory Civil Births County London Collections from Great Britain, England
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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28 Dec 2021 22:44 |
Martha Augusta Janson Gender: Female Marriage Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1873 Marriage Date: 27 Nov 1893 Marriage Place: Walworth Common, Southwark, England Father: Philip Janson baker Spouse: Charles William Robert Smith Register Type: Parish Register
Philip janson was a witness on the cert
Name: Philip Janson Electoral Date: 1891 Street Address: 67 Tilson road Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell North County or Borough: Southwark, England
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ArgyllGran
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28 Dec 2021 23:04 |
Birth of the niece listed in 1901 census for Louisa Weil:
JANSEN, MAUD mmn MILLARD GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 133
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On second thoughts, she's more likely to be Agnes Maud Janson (mmn Jackson) , born 1886 Camberwell (which includes Peckham, which is given as Maud's birthplace on 1901 census)
Agnes Maud's birth posted in my next post.
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ErikaH
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29 Dec 2021 10:53 |
For info..............
The FREE site being used to provide birth registration details
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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ArgyllGran
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29 Dec 2021 13:03 |
Birth of Martha, whose marriage Shirley posted:
JANSON, MARTHA AUGUSTINE mmn JACKSON GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in ST PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 182
Other siblings??
JANSON, FRANCES GERTRUDE mmn JACKSON GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 842
JANSON, MAY mmn JACKSON GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 801 [Died 1880 Camberwell]
JANSON, AGNES MAUD mmn JACKSON GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 951
[Agnes Maud is likely to be the Maud in 1901 census with Louisa Weil ]
JANSON, EDITH AMELIA mmn JACKSON GRO Reference: 1884 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 958
JANSON, ALOYSIUS LEONARD HERCULES mmn JACKSON GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 939
Aloysius married Ethel Elizabeth Bridgman in 1912 in Edmonton. He died in 1916. He's just Leonard on his WW1 army records and at school:
Leonard Janson in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 Name: Leonard Janson Gender: Male Age: 5 Birth Date: 30 Sep 1888 Admission Date: 26 Feb 1894 School: Cator Street School Father: Phillip Janson Notes: Cator Street School (0533) opened in 1881. Closed or reorganised in 193-
Address: 17 Pitt Street.
Elizabeth Trendell is at 17 Pitt Street in 1895 per ER, and George Phillips in 1893. I don't see 17 Pitt Street listed in 1894.
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ArgyllGran
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29 Dec 2021 13:25 |
Frances Gertrude in 1901:
Frances Janson in the 1901 England Census Name: Frances Janson Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation to Head: Servant Gender: Female Birth Place: Peckham, London, England Civil Parish: Newington Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Newington County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Registration District: Southwark Sub-registration District: St Mary, Newington ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: Piece: 384 Folio: 30 Page Number: 1 Household Schedule Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Jane Hare 32 Frances Janson 19
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ArgyllGran
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29 Dec 2021 13:35 |
Phillip Ianson in the 1891 England Census Name: Phillip Ianson Gender: Male Age: 51 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1840 Spouse: Annie Ianson Child: Martha Ianson Louisa Ianson Charles Ianson Gertrude Ianson Edith Ianson Maud Ianson Aloysuis Ianson Birth Place: Germany Civil parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement Residence Place: East Dulwich, Camberwell, London, England Registration district: Camberwell Sub registration district: Camberwell ED, Institution or Vessel: 33 Neighbors: Piece: 471 Folio: 19 Household Members Age Relationship Phillip Ianson 51 Head - baker Annie Ianson 44 Wife - Middlesex Martha Ianson 17 Daughter Louisa Ianson 23 Daughter Charles Ianson 14 Son Gertrude Ianson 10 Daughter Edith Ianson 7 Daughter Maud Ianson 5 Daughter Aloysuis Ianson 5 Son
Charles's birth:
JANSON, PHILIP CHARLES GEORGE mmn JACKSON GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 167
He married Annie Elizabeth Davies in 1907, had two sons; was living in Fulham in 1911, died in Romford 1956.
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29 Dec 2021 14:02 |
Edith's marriage ?
Edith Amelia Janson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Edith Amelia Janson Registration Year: 1909 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration District: Fylde Volume: 8e Page: 1590 Records on Page: Name Edith Amelia Janson Harry Yates
Births of daughter, and possible son:
YATES, EDITH VICTORIA mmn JANSON GRO Reference: 1913 J Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 1211
YATES, ARTHUR JACK mmn JANSON GRO Reference: 1914 D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD Volume 08A Page 932
There are lots of travel records for Arthur Jack: For example:
Arthur J Yates in the UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name: Arthur J Yates Arrival Age: 19 Birth Date: abt 1915 Port of Departure: Yokohama, Japan Arrival Date: 28 Sep 1934 Port of Arrival: London, England Ports of Voyage: Yokohama; Shanghai; Hong Kong; Singapore; Penang; Colombo; Bombay; Aden; Port Said; Malta; Marseilles; Gibraltar and Tangier Official Ship Name: Ranpura Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd Official Number: 148119
Travelling with sister Edith V. Arthur's address is : Royal Agricultural College, Cirencester. Edith's address is: The "Maynard", Exeter, Devon.
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