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29 Sep 2021 14:26 |
First name(s) Charles Christian City London Last name Kalthoeber County Middlesex Birth year 1752 Country England Age at death 67 Source City of London Burials 1754-1855 Burial year 1819 Record set Greater London Burial Index Burial date 05 Dec 1819 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Address Workhouse Subcategory Parish Burials Other name(s) Christian Collections from England, Great Britain Parish St Clement Dane
Seemingly he used the name Charles from around 1791 according to the tree on ancestry. His mother was Maria Elisabeth Deilicke.
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Maddie
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27 Sep 2021 18:09 |
Name: Carl Wilhelm Kalthöber Gender: männlich (Male) Record Type: Taufe (Baptism) Baptism Date: Nov 1782 Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Deutschland (Germany) Father: Carl Friedrich Kalthöber Author: Evangelische Stadtkirchen Berlin (Brandenburg) City or District: Berlin
Name: Carl Wilhelm Kalthöber Death Age: 10/12 Event Type: Beerdigung (Burial) Birth Date: abt 1782 Death Date: 20 Sep 1783 Burial Date: 22 Sep 1783 Burial Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Father: Carl Friedrich Kalthöber City or District: Berlin Page Number: 54;55 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70060
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Ronald
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27 Sep 2021 18:01 |
Maddie and London Belle, thank you so much for your very prompt replies. The information is much more than I'd expected. Christian is my 4x gt grandfather and was a famous bookbinder who moved to London from Lieberhausen near Cologne. His bindings are on sale for vast sums of money, but he was an alcoholic and spent his money accordingly. As you have discovered he ended up in the workhouse. His bookbindings are exquisite, and some are in the British Library. So grateful for your help. I wasn't aware of all of his siblings.
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LondonBelle
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27 Sep 2021 17:43 |
The Tree also has the Image of Christian's Burial at St Clement Danes on 5 Dec 1819, his Abode was given as Workhouse.
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LondonBelle
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27 Sep 2021 17:39 |
The Tree states that Christian & Elizabeth had the following children
Charles Andrew 1784 Mary Sophia 1786 George John 1786 Clara Esther 1790 William James 1791-1853 Elizabeth 1793-1802
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Maddie
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27 Sep 2021 17:33 |
Name: Sophia Elisabeth Kalthöber Event Type: Taufe (Baptism) Birth Date: 2 Dez 1750 (2 Dec 1750) Baptism Date: 6 Dez 1750 (6 Dec 1750) Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber City or District: Berlin Page Number: 603;442 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70044
Name: Sophia Elisabeth Kalthofern Gender: weiblich (Female) Event Type: Heirat (Marriage) Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1783 Marriage Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Spouse: Christian Wilhelm Durfort Author: Evangelische Kirche. Garnisongemeinde Berlin City or District: Berlin Parish as it Appears: Garnison Page Number: 44;45
Name: Sophie Elisabeth Dorffurt Maiden Name: Kalthöber Death Age: 72 Event Type: Beerdigung (Burial) Birth Date: abt 1751 Death Date: 9 Apr 1823 Burial Date: 13 Apr 1823 Burial Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Spouse: Christian Wilhelm Dorffurt City or District: Berlin Page Number: 224;224 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Name: Christian Wilhelm Dörffurt Death Age: 67 Event Type: Beerdigung (Burial) Birth Date: abt 1750 Death Date: 24 Jan 1817 Burial Date: 27 Jan 1817 Burial Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Parish as it Appears: Berlin City or District: Berlin Page Number: 47;47 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Dom Berlin Film Number: 70152
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LondonBelle
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27 Sep 2021 17:31 |
There is a Tree on Ancestry which seems to have a lot of documentary evidence. It has an Image of the Baptism that Maddie gives above.
There are Banns for his Marriage to Elizabeth Slater at Saint Martins Inthe Field, Westminster in 1782. Written on the Banns is the Marriage date of 02 Sep 1782.
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Maddie
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27 Sep 2021 17:30 |
Name: Christiana Loÿsa Kalthöber Event Type: Taufe (Baptism) Birth Date: 30 Jan 1749 Baptism Date: 3 Feb 1749 Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber City or District: Berlin Page Number: 559;421 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70044
Name: Johanna Charlotta Kalthöber Event Type: Taufe (Baptism) Baptism Date: 12 Sep 1745 Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber City or District: Berlin Page Number: 473;378 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70044
Name: Johanna Charlotta Kalthoefern Maiden Name: Kalthoebers Gender: weiblich (Female) Event Type: Heirat (Marriage) Marriage Date: 7 Okt 1777 (7 Oct 1777) Marriage Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Father: Johann Caspar Kalthoebers Spouse: George Ludwig Palm City or District: Berlin Page Number: 189 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Nikolaikirche Berlin Film Number: 70027
Name: Carl Friderich Kalthöber Event Type: Taufe (Baptism) Baptism Date: 17 Mrz 1747 (17 Mar 1747) Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber City or District: Berlin Page Number: 513;398 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70044
Name: Carl Friedrich Kalthober Gender: männlich (Male) Spouse: Johanna Dorothea Kalthober Child: Carl Wilhelm Kalthober City or District: Berlin Page Number: 76;77 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70045
Name: Johanna Dorothea Förstern Maiden Name: Försters Gender: weiblich (Female) Event Type: Heirat (Marriage) Marriage Date: Jun 1782 Marriage Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Father: Friedrich Wilhelm Försters Spouse: Carl Friedrich Kalthöfer City or District: Berlin Page Number: 16;17 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
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Maddie
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27 Sep 2021 17:20 |
Name: Christian Samuel Kalthöber Event Type: Taufe (Baptism) Birth Date: 18 Jan 1753 Baptism Date: 23 Jan 1753 Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany) Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber City or District: Berlin Page Number: 653;467 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70044
Name: Johann Caspar Kalthöber Gender: männlich (Male) Spouse: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber Child: Christiana Loÿsa Kalthöber City or District: Berlin Page Number: 559;421 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70044
Name: Johann Caspar Kalthöber Gender: männlich (Male) Spouse: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber Child: Christian Samuel Kalthöber City or District: Berlin Page Number: 653;467 Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin Film Number: 70044
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Ronald
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27 Sep 2021 16:52 |
I wonder if someone would kindly look up Christian Samuel Kalthoeber, (maybe Kalthöber) born c 1753 in the above births, marriages and burials Ancestry records please. Any other family members' information would also be greatly appreciated. I believe his father to be Johann Caspar Kalthöber. Thank you in advance. Ron
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