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Germany, Lutheran bmb lookup please Kalthoeber

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Ronald

Ronald Report 27 Sep 2021 16:52

I wonder if someone would kindly look up Christian Samuel Kalthoeber, (maybe Kalthöber) born c 1753 in the above births, marriages and burials Ancestry records please. Any other family members' information would also be greatly appreciated. I believe his father to be Johann Caspar Kalthöber. Thank you in advance.
Ron

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Sep 2021 17:20

Name: Christian Samuel Kalthöber
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1753
Baptism Date: 23 Jan 1753
Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber
Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 653;467
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70044

Name: Johann Caspar Kalthöber
Gender: männlich (Male)
Spouse: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber
Child: Christiana Loÿsa Kalthöber
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 559;421
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70044

Name: Johann Caspar Kalthöber
Gender: männlich (Male)
Spouse: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber
Child: Christian Samuel Kalthöber
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 653;467
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70044

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Sep 2021 17:30

Name: Christiana Loÿsa Kalthöber
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 30 Jan 1749
Baptism Date: 3 Feb 1749
Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber
Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 559;421
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70044

Name: Johanna Charlotta Kalthöber
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 12 Sep 1745
Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber
Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 473;378
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70044

Name: Johanna Charlotta Kalthoefern
Maiden Name: Kalthoebers
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Event Type: Heirat (Marriage)
Marriage Date: 7 Okt 1777 (7 Oct 1777)
Marriage Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Johann Caspar Kalthoebers
Spouse: George Ludwig Palm
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 189
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Nikolaikirche Berlin
Film Number: 70027

Name: Carl Friderich Kalthöber
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Baptism Date: 17 Mrz 1747 (17 Mar 1747)
Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber
Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 513;398
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70044

Name: Carl Friedrich Kalthober
Gender: männlich (Male)
Spouse: Johanna Dorothea Kalthober
Child: Carl Wilhelm Kalthober
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 76;77
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70045

Name: Johanna Dorothea Förstern
Maiden Name: Försters
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Event Type: Heirat (Marriage)
Marriage Date: Jun 1782
Marriage Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Friedrich Wilhelm Försters
Spouse: Carl Friedrich Kalthöfer
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 16;17
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 27 Sep 2021 17:31

There is a Tree on Ancestry which seems to have a lot of documentary evidence. It has an Image of the Baptism that Maddie gives above.

There are Banns for his Marriage to Elizabeth Slater at Saint Martins Inthe Field, Westminster in 1782. Written on the Banns is the Marriage date of 02 Sep 1782.



Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Sep 2021 17:33

Name: Sophia Elisabeth Kalthöber
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 2 Dez 1750 (2 Dec 1750)
Baptism Date: 6 Dez 1750 (6 Dec 1750)
Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Johann Caspar Kalthöber
Mother: Maria Elisabeth Kalthöber
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 603;442
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70044

Name: Sophia Elisabeth Kalthofern
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Event Type: Heirat (Marriage)
Marriage Date: 21 Apr 1783
Marriage Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Spouse: Christian Wilhelm Durfort
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Garnisongemeinde Berlin
City or District: Berlin
Parish as it Appears: Garnison
Page Number: 44;45

Name: Sophie Elisabeth Dorffurt
Maiden Name: Kalthöber
Death Age: 72
Event Type: Beerdigung (Burial)
Birth Date: abt 1751
Death Date: 9 Apr 1823
Burial Date: 13 Apr 1823
Burial Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Spouse: Christian Wilhelm Dorffurt
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 224;224
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin

Name: Christian Wilhelm Dörffurt
Death Age: 67
Event Type: Beerdigung (Burial)
Birth Date: abt 1750
Death Date: 24 Jan 1817
Burial Date: 27 Jan 1817
Burial Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Parish as it Appears: Berlin
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 47;47
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Dom Berlin
Film Number: 70152

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 27 Sep 2021 17:39

The Tree states that Christian & Elizabeth had the following children

Charles Andrew 1784
Mary Sophia 1786
George John 1786
Clara Esther 1790
William James 1791-1853
Elizabeth 1793-1802

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 27 Sep 2021 17:43

The Tree also has the Image of Christian's Burial at St Clement Danes on 5 Dec 1819, his Abode was given as Workhouse.

Ronald

Ronald Report 27 Sep 2021 18:01

Maddie and London Belle, thank you so much for your very prompt replies. The information is much more than I'd expected. Christian is my 4x gt grandfather and was a famous bookbinder who moved to London from Lieberhausen near Cologne. His bindings are on sale for vast sums of money, but he was an alcoholic and spent his money accordingly. As you have discovered he ended up in the workhouse.
His bookbindings are exquisite, and some are in the British Library.
So grateful for your help. I wasn't aware of all of his siblings.

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Sep 2021 18:09

Name: Carl Wilhelm Kalthöber
Gender: männlich (Male)
Record Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Baptism Date: Nov 1782
Baptism Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Deutschland (Germany)
Father: Carl Friedrich Kalthöber
Author: Evangelische Stadtkirchen Berlin (Brandenburg)
City or District: Berlin


Name: Carl Wilhelm Kalthöber
Death Age: 10/12
Event Type: Beerdigung (Burial)
Birth Date: abt 1782
Death Date: 20 Sep 1783
Burial Date: 22 Sep 1783
Burial Place: Berlin, Brandenburg, Preußen (Germany)
Father: Carl Friedrich Kalthöber
City or District: Berlin
Page Number: 54;55
Author: Evangelische Kirche. Marienkirche Berlin
Film Number: 70060

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Sep 2021 14:26

First name(s) Charles Christian
City London
Last name Kalthoeber
County Middlesex
Birth year 1752
Country England
Age at death 67
Source City of London Burials 1754-1855
Burial year 1819
Record set Greater London Burial Index
Burial date 05 Dec 1819
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Address Workhouse
Subcategory Parish Burials
Other name(s) Christian
Collections from England, Great Britain
Parish St Clement Dane

Seemingly he used the name Charles from around 1791 according to the tree on ancestry.
His mother was Maria Elisabeth Deilicke.