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alviegal
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21 Sep 2021 13:41 |
You could order his death certificate from this site if you wanted. It is pretty expensive and I have no idea what details would be on it.
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults
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Maddie
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21 Sep 2021 13:57 |
if the 1876 marriage is his cert wwill name his father ancestry only has the banns Name: Alice Cooper Gender: Female Record Type: Bann Marriage Banns Date: 1876 Marriage Banns Place: St Paul, Upper Holloway, Islington, England Spouse: William Henry Webbe Register Type: Parish Register
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21 Sep 2021 14:05 |
There are trees on ancestry suggesting that this is the marriage of a William Henry Webbe Porter and that he dropped the Porter before his marriage but there is nothing to verify this.
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2021 14:11 |
Name: Emma Hoppe Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 20 Apr 1875 Marriage Place: St Philip, Clerkenwell, Islington, England Father: Joseph Hoppe Spouse: William Henry Paulin Webb Father: Charles Webb Register Type: Parish Register
Name: William Henry Webbe-porter Registration Year: 1886 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Hackney Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 804 Records on Page: Name William Henry Webbe-porter William Henry W Porter
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2021 14:13 |
No record of a death in 1874 of a Henry Webb born 1806
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He may have been resident in Ireland, in view of info on the website cracroftspeerage
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Maddie
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21 Sep 2021 14:13 |
dont know if you have this Madeleine Departure country England Last name Wilcox Destination New Zealand Gender Female Country New Zealand Birth day 20 Destination place - country NEW ZEALAND Birth month 10 Destination country New Zealand Birth year 1886 Ship name Southern Cross Marital status S Ship gross tonnage 20000 Occupation Music teacher Ship master's first name D Departure day 11 Ship master's last name Aitchison Departure month 12 Ship owner or agent SHAW SAVILL ALBION LINE Departure year 1956 Number of passengers 0 City SOUTHAMPTON Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960 Departure port Southampton Category Travel & migration Entry struck out N Subcategory Passenger Lists Destination port New Zealand Collections from Great Britain, England, Australasia
Madeleine Country Australia Last name Wilcox Destination place - country AUSTRALIA Gender Female Destination country Australia Birth year 1887 Ship name Maloja Age 63 Ship registered tonnage 20914 Age as transcribed 63 Ship master's title Captain Occupation Music teacher Ship master's first name E F Departure day 18 Ship master's last name Ferraby Departure month 9 Shipping line P.& O. Departure year 1950 Number of passengers 1021 City LONDON Ship destination port Brisbane Departure port London Ship destination country Australia Entry struck out N Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Madoleine Funeral director Russell Firth Last name Wilcox Registration number 34265 Sex Unknown Country New Zealand Birth year - Record set Purewa Cemetery Cremations Death year - Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Last residence Caughey Preston Home, Remuera, Auckland Subcategory Parish Burials Cremation date 25/07/1978 Collections from Australasia, New Zealand Cremation method Returned Copyright New Zealand Society of Genealogists St Johns Branch
Madoleine Certificate ordering To order, visit https://www.bdmonline.dia.govt.nz/NonHistoricRecords Last name Wilcox Country New Zealand Birth date 20/10/1886 Record set New Zealand Death Index Age at death 92 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Registration year 1978 Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Registration number 1978/37817 Collections from Australasia, New Zealand Destination port Sydney Category Travel & migration Departure country England Subcategory Passenger Lists Destination Sydney Collections from Great Britain, England, Australasia
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2021 14:15 |
Name: William Henry Webbe Porter., of Full age.......................Newspaper Agent Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1855 Marriage Place: St John, Hoxton, Hackney, England Father: Henry Webbe Porter...........................Engraver Spouse: Emily Poole.....Minor Father: John Poole.....................Saddler Register Type: Parish Register
Name: William Henry Webbe Porter Gender: Male Birth Date: 10 Feb 1856 Baptism Date: 2 Mar 1856 Baptism Place: Saint John The Baptist,Shoreditch,London,England Father: William Henry Webbe Porter Mother: Emily FHL Film Number: 590838, 590839, 590840
PORTER, WILLIAM HENRY WEBBE POOLE GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in CLERKESWELL Volume 01B Page 498
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nameslessone
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21 Sep 2021 14:25 |
There is another entry for the baptism on the day of his birth at StJames, clerkenwell. Same parents, Father is. An office clerk and it looks as though the address is. 20 Whiskins st (on Ancestry)
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2021 14:36 |
Possible products of the 1876 marriage to Cooper
WEBBE, FRANCES HYPATIA COOPER GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in OF WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 510
WEBBE, TOM COOPER GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in WESTMINSTER Volume 01A Page 529
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Maddie
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21 Sep 2021 14:39 |
looks like he married 1886 hackney William Henry W Country England Last name Porter Volume 1B Marriage quarter 2 Volume as transcribed 1B Marriage year 1886 Page number 804 Registration month - Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 MarriageFinder™ William Henry W Porter married one of these people Harriet Cooper Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records District Hackney
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nameslessone
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21 Sep 2021 16:23 |
Henry Webb Porter married in Islington 1846. His marriage certificate should give his fathers details.
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2021 16:32 |
1846.............can't be the parents of William who married in 1855 unless it was very late for some reason
Or, of course, a second marriage
??? Deaths Dec 1879 (>99%) Porter Henry Webb 70 Brentford 3a 32
Name: William Henry Webb Porter Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1836 Court Date: 27 Jan 1868 Court Place: London, England Role: defendant Offense: Category: Theft; Subcategory: stealingFromMaster Verdict: Guilty Punishment: Category: Multiple Punishments; SubCategory: Multiple Punishments Collection: Proceedings of the Old Bailey
Name: William Henry W Porter Age: 72 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place: Camberwell, London, United Kingdom Death Date: Mar 1907 Volume: 1d Page: 565
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nameslessone
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21 Sep 2021 16:36 |
Probably right.
There are several OldBailey entries in Ancestry for Henry Webb Porter with mother mentioned as Catherine.
Also looks like William Henry Webb Porter may have been a naughty boy.
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2021 16:38 |
Name: William Henry Webb Porter Trial Age: 32 Record Type: Criminal Trial Birth Date: abt 1836 Trial Date: 30 Jan 1868 Trial Place: London, England Criminal Date: 1868 Occupation: Clerk Charge: larceny Sentence: 6 years
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2021 16:43 |
Name: William Henry Webbe Porter Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 27 Jun 1833 Baptism Place: St James, Clerkenwell, Islington, England Father: Henry Webber Porter....................................Engraver (as per 1855 marriage) Mother: Frances Porter
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nameslessone
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21 Sep 2021 17:10 |
Erika - did you sneak something extra in to your post of 16.32?
If Henry is the son of Catherine then possibly this is his birth 15/4/1808 baptised later at St Clement Danes, son of Joseph Porter and Catherine.
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ErikaH
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21 Sep 2021 17:21 |
Not guilty m’lud ;-) ;-)
‘Sneak’ is an unpleasant accusation…………….
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ErikaH
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22 Sep 2021 12:19 |
Name: Henry Webbe Porter Age: 21 Birth Year: abt 1810 Event Date: 23 Jun 1831 Parish: Clerkenwell, St James County: Middlesex Spouse's Name: Frances Allen Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse's Parish: Clerkenwell, St James Event Type: Allegation
Name: Henry Webb Porter Age: 70 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Death Registration Place: Brentford, Middlesex, United Kingdom Death Date: Dec 1879 Inferred Death Place: Middlesex, United Kingdom
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alviegal
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22 Sep 2021 14:49 |
MR. W. H. WEBBE’S CONCERT AT ST. GEORGE’S HALL. Mr. W. H. gave his second annual social reunion at the above hall Thursday evening last, when a large number of friends, principally from Clerkenwell and Islington, gave him their support. Prior to the ball instrumental.... 01 January 1877 - Islington Gazette - London, London, England
His new music did not go down particularly well with critics.
" Trust in Me " ( W . H . Webbe , , N . Z . ) , words by W . R . Wills , music by W . H . Webbe . We cannot say much in favour of this song . "Supplication" ( Berlin . Piano Importing Co , N . Z . ) This air , with variations , by W . H . Webbe , will prove useful as an exercise for pianoforte pupils. "Belle Polka", published by the same firm, composed by W H Webbe. This is not remarkable either for originality or cleverness. 04 March 1887 - The Stage - London, London, England
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ErikaH
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23 Sep 2021 12:46 |
Two PM’s received - not sure what they relate to. have advised responding on the thread, which I see is now ‘marked as answered’. So no further help required???
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