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obituary for albert
A. J. (Abbie), born to Paul and Ada Abshire, passed away Tuesday at South East Texas Regional Hospital in Mid County.

He graduated from St. James Catholic School in Port Arthur and was immediately called to the U. S. Army. He was a WWII veteran and had served in the European Theater under George Patton in the 3rd Army in Germany.

Upon his return, he resided in Groves and went to work for E. J. DuPont Sabine River Works in Orange. He was a pre-planner in the E.N.C.O. Department. He retired in 1983.

After his retirement, he and Margo moved to Wildwood, Texas where they built a lake front home. He loved to work in the yard and did all the landscaping. He was also an avid golfer and a member of the M.G.A until his health failed.

Survivors include his loving wife, Margo, to whom he was married sixty two years; his son Richard Abshire and wife, Gay, grandson, Heath Abshire and wife, Breean, granddaughter, Britney Norman and husband, Paul; one great grandson, Hunter Cane Abshire; brothers, Charles W. Abshire and wife, Betty, Linwood James Abshire and wife, Joan and Lewis E. Abshire and wife, Jeanette.

He was preceded in death by his parents, his brother, Abbie Paul Abshire, sisters, Agnes Arnold and Dorothy Palmer.


Parents

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Paul Abshire

1896–1969
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Ada Marie Talbot Abshire

1900–1936

Spouse

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Margaret Baker Abshire

1924–2019 (m. 1946)

Siblings

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Agnes Abshire Arnold

1918–2002
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Abbie Paul Abshire

1919–1995
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Dorothy Mary Abshire Palmer

1920–2008
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Charles Wilford Abshire

1932–2015

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Hope you asked the poster to return to the thread ;-) ;-)

pmj sent with american record for richard and heath abshire upto 2013

Re the stated siblings of Margaret, and children of Percy -

there's a 1946 Pontypridd birth of a Patricia M Baker, mmn Brown.

She MAY have married in Cardiff in 1966.

You can see the records on FreeBMD:
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

* IF * that's the right person and the right marriage, their current address is on the Electoral Roll.

See "Electoral Rolls" under "Search" at top right of this page, and search for her married name, with birth year, and keyword "Cardiff". Click on the "document" symbol at the right to see the address.

BUT of course we don't know for sure if she is your sister or not. Nor do we (the helpers) know your family background, so for all we know she may not know of your existence.
Be very tactful if attempting to make contact.


********* EDIT -

BUT -
Margaret's obituary says that Pat had died before Margaret.

If the obituary (and/or the ER) is correct , Patricia in Cardiff is NOT the right person..

Percy John
Last name Baker
Age 19
Birth year 1896
Birth town Ogmore Vale
Birth county Glamorganshire
Birth country Wales
Service number 39006
Regiment Welsh Regiment
Unit / Battalion 18th (Glamorgan) Service Battalion
Year 1915
Series WO 364

6 glynn st ogmore vale
discharged 6/9/1915 unqble to become an efficent soldier

Probable birth for 'Pat' on freebmd.................later than 1940

Marriages Jun 1889
BROWN John Bridgend 11a 971
SULLIVAN Ellenor Bridgend 11a 971

1911 census

Name: John Brown
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Doynton, Merionethshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Llandyfodwg
Search Photos: Search for 'Llandyfodwg' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 57 Oakfield Terrace Nantymoel
Marital status: Married
Years Married: 22
Estimated Marriage Year: 1889
Occupation: Colliery Miner Oves
Registration District: Bridgend
Registration District Number: 591
Sub-registration District: Ogmore
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household Schedule Number: 359
Piece: 32550
Household Members:
Name Age
John Brown 43
Sylwyn Brown 8
Kete Brown 6
Sydney Brown 4
Bessie Brown 2
Wedow Brown 1
Ellen Brown 39
Sarah Jane Brown 21
Thomas J Brown 19
William Brown 19
Ellen M Brown 18
William Brown 16
Richard Brown 15
Forest J Brown 13

As Margaret's death was so recent, the funeral home might be able and willing to put you in touch with the family ??

From Findagrave:

Obituary for Margaret Abshire
Margaret Abshire, 95, of Lumberton, passed away on September 3, 2019.

A memorial service will be held at 11:00 a.m., Saturday, September 7, 2019, at St. Mark's Episcopal Church in Beaumont with a reception at 10:30 a.m.

Born in Nantymoel, South Wales, on April 22, 1924, she was the daughter of Percival John Baker and Cathleen Brown Baker. Margaret loved gardening and being surrounded by flowers. She was a wonderful cook. Margaret enjoyed watching the Astros, reading, and traveling every chance she got. She was a loving mother and a wonderful grandmother, taking in everyone who she encountered, with love and kindness.

She was preceded in death by her husband of over 60 years, A.J. Abshire; parents, Percival and Cathleen Baker; brother, John Baker; and sister, Pat Baker.

She is survived by her son, Richard Abshire and wife Gay of Lumberton; grandchildren, Britney & P.J. Norman, and Heath & Breeann Abshire; great-grandchildren, Colt & Brylee Norman, and Hunter & Hanna Abshire; and sisters, Gene and Joyce of England; along with numerous nieces and nephews.

In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to St. Mark's Treasure House at 680 Calder Avenue, Beaumont, Texas 77701.

Percy is on 9 public trees on Ancestry.
Only one has his marriage to Catherine.

It lists children Jean, Joyce, Pat (female), John, and "private" female.
All said to be born in Nant-y-Moel - but no DOBs or proof given, and no other info.

Interestingly, the tree is the "Abshire Family Tree".

For Margaret Baker 1924, Ancestry suggests this marriage:

Margaret Baker
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Margaret Baker
Registration Date: Apr 1946
[May 1946]
[Jun 1946]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration District: Chippenham
Inferred County: Wiltshire
Spouse: Albert J Abshire
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 191


Margaret Abshire
in the New York, U.S., Arriving Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: Margaret Abshire
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1924
Birth Place: Wales <<<<<<<<<<<
Departure Port: Southampton
Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1951
Arrival Port: New York, New York, USA
Final Destination: Port Arthur, Texas
Ship Name: Mauretania

Destination address: 3605 39th Street, Port Arthur, Texas.



Margaret Abshire
in the Texas, U.S., Naturalization Records, 1852-1991
Name: Margaret Abshire
Gender: Female
Declaration Age: 25
Record Type: Petition
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1924
Birth Place: Nortymael, So Wales, England <<<<<<<<<<<
Arrival Date: 13 Oct 1946
Arrival Place: New York City, New York, USA
Declaration Date: abt 1949
Declaration Place: Beaumont, Texas, USA
Spouse: Albert J Abshire
Relatives:
Name Relation
Margaret Abshire Self (Head)
Albert J Abshire Spouse
Court District: Eastern District of Texas
Petition Number: 2321


Margaret Abshire
in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: Margaret Abshire
Gender: F (Female)
Birth Date: 22 Apr 1924
Birth Place: Wales, Metropolitan Borough of Rotherham, South Yorkshire, England
Death Date: 3 Sep 2019
Death Place: Lumberton, Hardin County, Texas, United States of America
Cemetery: Saint Mark's Episcopal Church Garden Columbarium
Burial or Cremation Place: Beaumont, Jefferson County, Texas, United States of America
Has Bio?: Y
Spouse: Albert Joseph Abshire


There's a nice photo of her on the Findagrave record.

As Catherine was with parents in 1939, and Percy's birth was registered in JAS Qtr.....................suggestion ONLY

3 Mount Street, Blackburn, Blackburn C.B., Lancashire, England
William (B) Stockbridge 18 Jan 1891 Male Commercial Temperance Proprietor Married 199 1
Janet S Stockbridge 11 Mar 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 199 2
John B Stockbridge 05 Jul 1937 Male Not Of School Age Single 199 3
Mary E Green 16 Oct 1894 Female General Domestic Duties Hotel Single 199 4
Arthur H Kealwistle 29 Oct 1868 Male Architect & Quantities Surveyor Single 199 5
Percy J Baker 04 Aug 1898 Male Contract Engineer (Electrical) Ht & Lt Cables Overhead Transmission Married 199 6
Thomas Joyce 04 Nov 1908 Male Joiner Carpenter (Electrical Appliance Factory) Single 199 7

freebmd has one other birth for Percy John Baker in JAS 1898 - in Devizes. That man is in Wiltshire in 1939

First name(s) Matilda M
Last name Baker
Gender Female
Age 61
Death quarter 1
Death year 1919
District Bridgend

Is this a possible?

Death
Catherine
Last name Baker
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1905
Age 44
Death quarter 4
Death year 1949
District Cardiff
County Glamorganshire
Volume 8B

Re 1911 on Ancestry -

in 2013 an Ancestry user named Paul Baker corrected Percy's birthplace.

The 'nephew' from 1901

WINTLE, CHARLES JOHN TOMMEY
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in ROSS Volume 06A Page 452

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)

Tommy Sarah Elisabeth Ross 6a 995
Tommy Sarah Elizabeth Ross 6a 995
Wintle James Ross 6a 995

First name(s) Percy John
Last name Baker
Birth quarter 3
Birth year 1898
Mother's maiden name Weale
District Bridgend
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 822
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006

Percy John Baker
in the 1911 Wales Census
Name: Percy John Baker
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Cymore Vale, Glamorgan, Wales [ Ogmore Vale on image ]
Civil Parish: Eglwysilan
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 4 Stockland St Caerphilly
Registration District: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration District: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Household Schedule Number: 188
Piece: 32232
Household Members:
Name Age
George Henry Rigsbey 39 - Mitchamton, Glos.
Alice Rigsbey 46 - Hungarron, Herefordshire [ Llangarron on image ]
Alfred John Stare 21 - stepson, Caerphilly
James Wintle 61 - boarder
Percy John Baker 12

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
Baker George Ross 6a 760
WEALE Matilda Mary Ross 6a 760

Name: Percy J Baker
Age in 1901: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father: George Baker
Mother: Matilda M Baker
Gender: Male
Where born: Ogmore, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Llandyfodwg
Town: Tynewydd
Ecclesiastical parish: Llandyfodwg St Tyvodwg
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration District: Bridgend
Sub-registration District: Ogmore
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 46
Piece: 5045
Folio: 80
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
George Baker 45
Matilda M Baker 43
Thomas G Baker 16
Edith H Baker 14
Frederick C Baker 12
Percy J Baker 2
Charles J Wentle 12....Nephew
William Lam 54....Visitor