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jade

jade Report 6 Jan 2021 13:07

Could anyone help find details on Mary Foreman.
Born 7 December 1912/13 in Middlesbrough.
I don't know her maiden name only that she moved to Watford and had 2 sons with either Bertie or leslie Foreman:
Dennis foreman born 19th July 1948
Tony foreman 1950/51.
It was believed they were not married but I found a possible marriage of leslie b foreman to a mary tenant in Watford at the same time.
Many thanks in advance for any help offered.

malyon

malyon Report 6 Jan 2021 13:22

her maiden name was foreman looks like she was not married when she had children
says mother maiden name is foreman

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jan 2021 13:29

Why not get one of the birth certs for its info
Anthony s was 1950


How do you know Mary actual birthdate ?

Have you looked for her on the 1939 register?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 13:31

Please remove the actual DoB - invasion of privacy, and potential for identity theft

To find info, use freebmd

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

jade

jade Report 6 Jan 2021 13:34

Maylon thank you for your help on both my threads . That's what I got when I checked Dennis birth certificate. I keep finding the name Tennant and nothing comes up for a mary born in middlesborough with that birth date.
I remember Dennis saying she was from Middlesbrough and leslie and mary never married, maybe she just took his name.
Thank you again, I really appreciate your input.

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 13:36

Your info is inaccurate

The Foreman marriage in 1942 was to OLIVE Tennant

jade

jade Report 6 Jan 2021 13:36

Shirley I have checked the birth certificates and it just says mary foreman.
I know it's her actual birthday from some paperwork handed to me when Dennis died. Dennis said leslie could have been bertie as he used both names.

jade

jade Report 6 Jan 2021 13:38

Erikah. Thank you.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 13:38

First name(s) Leslie Bertie
Last name Foreman
Gender Unknown
Birth day 22
Birth month 10
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1981
District Watford
County Hertfordshire
Volume 10
Page 0846

The name of the informant could be helpful

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 13:40

Now you've 'marked as answered', people will assume you need no further help

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 13:41

Shirley

She can't have, or she wouldn't have thought the wife's first name was MARY. It's clearly Olive on freebmd

There was a daughter of the Foreman/Tennant marriage

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jan 2021 13:42

Leslie Bertie Foreman
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Leslie Bertie Foreman
Death Age: 67
Birth Date: 22 Oct 1914
Registration Date: Oct 1981
[Nov 1981]
[Dec 1981]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 0846


Olive Foreman
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Olive Foreman
Death Age: 62
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1921
Registration Date: Oct 1983
[Nov 1983]
[Dec 1983]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Watford
Inferred County: Hertfordshire
Volume: 10
Page: 0855

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Jan 2021 13:43

So this is Leslie

England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

First name(s) Leslie Bertie
Last name Foreman
Gender Unknown
Birth day 22
Birth month 10
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1981
District Watford
County Hertfordshire
Volume 10
Page 0846



1939 Register

28 Riverside Road, Watford, Watford M.B., Hertfordshire, England
Goodman household
(4 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Alfred T Goodman 24 Feb 1885 Male Public Works Contractor Labourer Married 48 1
Lilian (Gertrude) Goodman 30 Dec 1890 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 48 2
Bessie (M) Bateman (Wilson,Goodman) 29 Jan 1925 Female Laundry Worker Single 48 3
Leslie Foreman 22 Oct 1914 Male Timber Labourer Single 48 4

Seemingly this is his mother and stepfather.

jade

jade Report 6 Jan 2021 13:43

Erikah. Thank you, your details match the ones for leslie as I've just managed to find the details in some of my paper work.
I'm going to try and trace mary but finding it hard.
Much appreciation for your help.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 13:43

Leslie's birth

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
FOREMAN Leslie B Keen Islington 1b 352

jade

jade Report 6 Jan 2021 13:45

Erikah. I didn't realise marking it as read did that, thank you for helping this novice. :-D

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jan 2021 13:45

There’s no birth reg for a Mary foreman in Middlesbrough for that birthdate


Maybe they didn’t marry because he was already married !

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 13:48

Olive - note the various surnames

1939
16 Hertan Road, Watford, Watford M.B., Hertfordshire, England

Harold Tennant 05 May 1920 Male Hotel House Porter Single 306 1
Olive Williams (Foreman,Tennant) 05 Sep 1921 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Single 306 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
Lilian W Atkins (Tennant) 13 Sep 1924 Female ??? Single 306 4
The record for this person is officially closed.

jade

jade Report 6 Jan 2021 13:49

Erikah. I found that to , I'm very slow at this. :-D. I'm desperate to find Mary now.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 13:50

Olive's death

First name(s) Olive
Last name Williams
Gender Female
Birth day 5
Birth month 9
Birth year 1921
Death quarter 4
Death year 1983
District Watford
County Hertfordshire
Volume 10
Page 0855

First name(s) Olive
Last name Foreman
Gender Female
Birth day 5
Birth month 9
Birth year 1921
Death quarter 4
Death year 1983
District Watford
County Hertfordshire
Volume 10
Page 0855

So.......no divorce, which means Leslie couldn't re-marry

There appears to have been a child of the relationship between Olive and the unknown Williams