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Price Family - Radnorshire/Knighton - early 1900s

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 8 Jan 2021 11:07

This MIGHT be the illegitimate Harry Price:

Harry Scarrott
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Harry Scarrott
[Harry Price]
Gender: Male
Age: 10
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1881
Father: William Scarrott
Mother: Annie Scarrott
Birth Place: Wellington, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Wellington
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Residence Place: Wellington, Wellington, Shropshire, England
Registration District: Wellington
Sub registration district: Wellington
ED, Institution or Vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2131
Folio: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
William Scarrott 43
Annie Scarrott 40
William Scarrott 14
Eliza Scarrott 12
Harry Scarrott 10



Against Annie's name, an Ancestry member has added this note:

"Hannah Price rather than Annie Scarrott
The original data on the record is incorrect.
She was not married to William. She had her illgt son Harry Price with her.
Annie was a pet name for Hannah. Later census prove all of this
Submitted by: winterproject on 25/01/2014"



EDIT:

NO, that's not the right Harry.
That one was still single in 1901:

Harry Price
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Harry Price
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William Searrott
Mother: Hannah Searrott
Birth Place: Wellington, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Wellington
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wellington
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Wellington (Shropshire)
Sub-registration District: Wellington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors:
Piece: 2562
Folio: 119
Page Number: 30
Household Schedule Number: 185
Household Members:
Name Age
William Searrott 53
Hannah Searrott 52
Harry Price 22 - single, labourer in timber yard


Oh well, back to the drawing board.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jan 2021 19:38

Also rule out the 1879 Harry above:

Harry Price
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Harry Price
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Registration Year: 1879
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Wellington
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 570


That leaves the illegitimate Harry 1880 as a possibility.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jan 2021 19:23

If the second birth above;



Possible marriage of parents ??

Marriages Mar 1874 (>99%)
Hamer Agnes Shiffnal 6a 902
Price Joseph Shiffnal 6a 902


William H. Price
in the 1881 England Census
Name: William H. Price
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Joseph Price
Mother: Agnes Price
Gender: Male
Where born: Wombridge, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Shifnal
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: Oakengates
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration District: Shifnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 2633
Folio: 93
Page Number: 68
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Price 31
Agnes Price 32
Sarah J. Price 6
Albert E. Price 5
Alfred C. Price 4
Ethel C. Price 2
William H. Price 1



EDIT:

BUT NO, his marriage record says his father was Robert.


Anyway, that William Henry is still unmarried in 1901.

William Price
in the 1901 England Census
Name: William Price
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Brother
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Oakengates, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Priors Lee
Ecclesiastical parish: Oakengates Holy Trinity
Town: Oakengates
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration District: Shifnal
Sub-registration District: Shifnal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6a
Neighbors:
Piece: 2523
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household Schedule Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert E Price 25
Alfred C Price 24
Ellen Price 24
Ethel Price 22
William Price 21
May Price 19
Maude Price 15
Albert C Price 3
Gertrude E Price 9/12
Richard Tomkins 30

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Jan 2021 19:17

???

PRICE, HARRY mmn EVANS
GRO Reference: 1879 M Quarter in WELLINGTON SALOP UNION Volume 06A Page 835

or


PRICE, WILLIAM HENRY mms HAMER
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in WELLINGTON (SALOP) UNION Volume 06A Page 791


or

PRICE, HARRY -
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in WELLINGTON SALOP UNION Volume 06A Page 794

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Jan 2021 17:00

1901 census

Coneygree Road, Tipton, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Harry Price Head Married Male 22 1879 Horse Driver Wellington, Shropshire, England
Emily Price Wife Married Female 20 1881 - Warwick, Warwickshire, England
Winnie Booth Visitor Married Female 24 1877 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England

mgnv

mgnv Report 7 Jan 2021 04:47


Using https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
in particular http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference Add to Summary
RICHARDS Richard CASTER Adelaide L L 1874 Tipton, St Mark Sandwell Register Office 38/2/292
PRICE Henry RICHARDS Lucy E 1899 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/042/141

safc

safc Report 6 Jan 2021 15:00

Record Transcription:
Radnorshire Baptisms

First name(s) Doris
Last name Price
Birth year 1914
Birth date ? ? 1914
Baptism year 1914
Baptism date 06 Jul 1914
Place Knighton
County Radnorshire
Country Wales
Father's first name(s) Henry xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mother's first name(s) Lucy Emily
Page 243
Record set Radnorshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from Wales, Great Britain

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 11:11

1939
31 George Road, Knighton, Knighton U.D., Radnorshire, Wales

Richard H Price 04 Oct 1901 Male Gas Stoker Heavy Worker Married 137 1
Elizabeth B M Price 02 Jun 1902 Female Land Worker At Market Gardener Married 137 2
Emily B J Bondler (Price) 16 Apr 1925 Female At School Single 137 3
Winifred G D Neville (Price) 30 Mar 1927 Female At School Single 137 4
Stanley G Price 03 Nov 1928 Male At School Single 137 5
Cedric D Price 27 Sep 1930 Male At School Single 137 6
2 closed records

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jan 2021 11:00

Another child:

PRICE, RICHARD HENRY mmn RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 44


Richard Henry Price
in the Radnorshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1994
Name: Richard Henry Price
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 1900
Marriage Date: 29 Dec 1924
Marriage Place: Knighton, Radnorshire, Wales <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Father: William Henry Price <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< labourer
Spouse: Elizabeth Beatrice Mary Turner


I think he is "Henry" in 1911 census, rather than the Henry whose birth I posted earlier.
I've edited the earlier post to add the probable death of Henry:

PRICE, HENRY 1
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 30

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jan 2021 10:50

Possibly William Henry's death??

Deaths Dec 1967 (>99%)
PRICE WILLIAM H 88 RADNOR E 8C 394


Lucy's death (posted earlier) was registered in Radnor East, which includes Knighton.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jan 2021 10:24

Presumably the birth of the son Harry in the 1911 census:

PRICE, HENRY mmn RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1901 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 96

And the son James in the 1911 census:

PRICE, JOHN JAMES mmn RICHARDS
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in KNIGHTON Volume 11B Page 115


EDIT:
I think Henry in 1911 census may be Richard Henry (see later posot, and not the Henry above.

This will be the death of the Henry born 1901:

PRICE, HENRY 1
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 30

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Jan 2021 10:00

We haven't found them together in 1901. Nor Henry on his own, as far as I can see. That Lucy Richards in 1901 may or may not be the right person - though shouldn't be.


You say that her husband is William H Price.

Where did you find that, please? Is that on the photos?

He's Henry at marriage, in 1911, and in 1939. No mention of William.

EDIT:
Oh yes, I see he's William Henry on Phyllis's baptism record.


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2021 09:37

The marriage was posted by ArgyllGran at 23:08 and 1911 census info has been posted.

In 1911, they say they had produced 5 children ,of whom 3 had died

Geccolover

Geccolover Report 6 Jan 2021 00:19

Thank you so much for all this brilliant information!

You see my problem now with finding them on the 1901 and 1911 census - they should have been married by then but I can't seem to find the right record.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jan 2021 23:35

Ancestry suggests this is Lucy in 1901 - but can't be, as she was married by then (assuming the 1899 marriage is the right couple.).

Lucy Richards
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Lucy Richards
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wellsbourne, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Leamington
Ecclesiastical parish: Leamington Priors All Saints
Town: Leamington
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 47 Regent Street
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Registration District: Warwick
Sub-registration District: Leamington
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Neighbors:
Piece: 2931
Folio: 102
Page Number: 12
Household Schedule Number: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane James 41 - Ladies outfitter, shopkeeper
Lucy Richards 19 - single, assistant to above.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jan 2021 23:29

Emily Richards
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Emily Richards
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Father: Richard Richards
Mother: Laura Richards
Gender: Female
Where born: Leamington, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Leamington Priors
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Bath Place
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration District: Warwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors:
Piece: 3091
Folio: 146
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Richards 28
Laura Richards 23
Louisa Richards 4
Harry Richards 2
Emily Richards
George Trier 16


Emily Richards
in the 1891 Wales Census
Name: Emily Richards
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard Richards
Mother's Name: Laura Richards
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: St Thomas
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: St Thomas
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration District: Swansea
Sub registration district: Swansea
ED, institution, or vessel: 41b
Neighbors:
Piece: 4485
Folio: 6
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Richards 38
Laura Richards 33
Louisa Richards 14
Harry Richards 12
Emily Richards 10
James Richards 7
Laura Richards 4

safc

safc Report 5 Jan 2021 23:23

Births Mar 1929 (>99%)
Price Edna M Price Knighton 11b 151

safc

safc Report 5 Jan 2021 23:22

1939 Register logo
The National Archives logo
Emily Price's life in 1939
28 George Road, Knighton, Knighton U.D., Radnorshire, Wales
Price household
(5 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Henry Price 25 Dec 1879 Male Licenced Hawker Married 135 1
Emily Price 24 Oct 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 135 2

Edna (May) Ear (Price) 04 Dec 1928 Female At School Single 135 4

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jan 2021 23:08



Deaths Sep 1946 (>99%)
Price Lucy E 65 Radnor E. 8c 330


Lucy Emily Price
in the Radnorshire, Wales, Anglican Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1994
Name: Lucy Emily Price
Death Age: 65
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: 1881
Death Date: abt 1946
Burial Date: 6 Sep 1946
Burial Place: Knighton, Radnorshire, Wales
Page number: 34

Address: Cwm, Knighton.


Her birth???

RICHARDS, LUCY EMILY mmn CASTER
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in WARWICK Volume 06D Page 565


Louisa Emily Richards
in the Warwickshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1910
Name: Louisa Emily Richards
Baptism Date: 7 Nov 1880
Baptism Place: Leamington Priors, All Saints, Warwickshire, England
Parish: Leamington Priors, All Saints
Father: Richard Richards
Mother: Lonisa Richards


Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%)
Caster Adelaide Laura L Dudley 6c 200
RICHARDS Richard Dudley 6c 200

In spite of the fact that the 1911 census says she was born in Wrexham, the Warwickshire birth looks like the right one.

Lucy Emily Richards
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Lucy Emily Richards
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Age: 20
Birth Date: 1879
Marriage Date: 22 May 1899
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Father: Richard Richards <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Henry Price
FHL Film Number: 378789
Reference ID: v 109 p 71 n 141

Henry's father's name was Robert.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Jan 2021 22:54

Birth:

THOMAS, ADA -
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in KNIGHTON Volume 11B Page 115