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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Dec 2020 11:33

Possible death of Edward ?? YOB 1865 per 1891 census:


Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%)
Bridgman Edward 38 Croydon 2a 143

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2020 11:30

Name: William Hinson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 25/09/1869 (25 Sep 1869)
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 283 Manchester Rd
Residence Place: Wandsworth London England
Occupation: Bricklayers Retired
Line Number: 10
Schedule Number: 30
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: AXVS
Borough: Wandsworth

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Dec 2020 11:26

I'm glad you found the Hinson marriage, - not in the year I expected.

Amelia Sarah Hison
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Amelia Sarah Hison
Age in 1911: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: BRENTFORD, England
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Armoury Yard, The Plain Wandsworth S W
Marital status: Married
Estimated Marriage Year: 1906
Registration District: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration District: Southfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Piece: 2397
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hison 47
Amelia Sarah Hison 44

Married 5 years, no children.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2020 11:22

??

Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%)
Bridgman Edward 38 Croydon 2a 143

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Dec 2020 11:18

Did Amelia remarry

Marriages Mar 1911
Bridgman Amelia S Wandsworth 1d 674
Forster Thomas M P J Wandsworth 1d 674
Gale Annie G Wandsworth 1d 674
Hinson William Wandsworth 1d 674

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2020 11:16

??

First name(s) Amelia S
Last name Bridgman
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1911
Registration month -
Amelia S Bridgman married
William Hinson,
District Wandsworth
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1D
Volume as transcribed 1D


Name: Amelia S Hinson
Death Age: 68
Birth Date: abt 1867
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1935
Registration District: Battersea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 417

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2020 11:05

Name: Charles Edward Bridgeman
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Dec 1892
Baptism Place: Earlsfield St Andrew, Wandsworth, England
Father: Edward Bridgeman..............................Plasterer
Mother: Amelia Sarah Bridgeman
66 Bendon Valley

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Dec 2020 11:05

Yet another child ??

BRIDGMAN, JOSEPH mmn TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 719


??
Joseph Bridgman
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Joseph Bridgman
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Nurse Child (Nurse)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: St Pancras Wonkhouse, London, England
Civil Parish: Watford
Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Andrew
County/Island: Hertfordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 17 Cecil Street
Registration District: Watford
Sub-registration District: Watford
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors:
Piece: 1316
Folio: 85
Page Number: 5
Household Schedule Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
George Moore 22
Esther Moore 23
Edith Reeve 18
Joseph Bridgman 2

The word "workhouse" in the transcribed birthplace may belong to the person in the line below, in the next household.



??

Joe Bridgeman
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Joe Bridgeman
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Hammersmith
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 37 Cathnor Road, Shepherds Bush
Occupation: School
Registration District: Fulham
Registration District Number: 3
Sub-registration District: North Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Piece: 210
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Dunsdon 18 - son
James Dunsdon 10 - son
Herbert Dunsdon 12 - son
Alice Dunsdon 48 - wife, widow
Joe Bridgeman 11

As it frequently does, Ancestry has mixed this household up with two others - Gowers and Haddock - so I've missed those out when copying here.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Dec 2020 11:05

And

Charles Robert Bridgman
Baptism Age: 1
Birth Date: 6 Nov 1898
Baptism Date: 27 Dec 1899
Baptism Place: South Wimbledon, All Saints, Surrey, England
Parish as it Appears: South Wimbledon, All Saints
Search Photos: Search for 'South Wimbledon, All Saints' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Edward Bridgman
Mother: Amelia Bridgman

Not picking up a birth to confirm it’s the same family

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2020 10:59

Name: Amelia Sarah Taylor
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1864
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1883
Marriage Place: St Leonard St Mary, Bromley, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: Thomas William Taylor
Spouse: Edward Bridgman...........Plasterer
Father: Edward Bridgman...........Plasterer.

Witnesses: Thomas William Taylor and A Bridgman

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Dec 2020 10:52

Edwards father was also and .Edward and still in the same trade !

Note many of the family names too



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Name: Edward Bridgeman
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Ann Bridgeman
Gender: Male
Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 87 Venue Street
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Plasterer
Registration District: Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 501
Folio: 10
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Bridgeman 43
Mary Ann Bridgeman 40
Mary Ann Bridgeman 21
Edward Bridgeman 17
Adam Bridgeman 15
Janet Bridgeman 13
Charles Bridgeman 11
Emely Bridgeman 8
Thomas Bridgeman 5
Rosey Bridgeman 3
(not transcribed)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Dec 2020 10:49

??? More chhildren ??

BRIDGMAN, HENRY ROBERT TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 759

BRIDGMAN, JAMES TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 787

BRIDGMAN, THOMAS WILLIAM TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 749



Thomas Bridgman
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Thomas Bridgman
Age in 1911: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation to Head: Nephew
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Wandsworth, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Carshalton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Batts Farm, Rose Hill Mitcham, Surrey
Marital status: Single
Occupation: Farmer Assistant
Registration District: Epsom
Registration District Number: 31
Sub-registration District: Carshalton
ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Piece: 2928
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Bridgman 40
Thomas Bridgman 35 - brother, Poplar
George Bridgman 24 - nephew, Poplar
Thomas Bridgman 15 - nephew, Wandsworth


Thomas Bridgman
in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
Name: Thomas Bridgman
Gender: Male
Age: 5
Birth Date: 24 May 1895
Admission Date: 27 Aug 1900
School: Garratt Lane School <<<<<<<<<<<
Father: Edward Bridgman <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Notes: Garratt Lane School (0339) opened in 1876. Became Gertrude Sanson Primary School in 1951. Closed or reorganised in 196-

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2020 10:49

???

First name(s) Harry Robert
Last name Bridgman
Gender Male
Marital status -
Occupation -
Event year 1900
Birth year 1899
Age at death 22m
Burial year 1900
Burial date 09 Jan 1900
Burial place Morden, Surrey
Street address 5 Cowper Road
Place Morden
County Surrey

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Dec 2020 10:42

Two more children

BRIDGMAN, HENRY ROBERT TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 759
BRIDGMAN, JAMES TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 787


Sadly

James Bridgman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 0
Registration District: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 419


And possibly

Harry Robert Bridgman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Registration Year: 1900
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 1
Registration District: Kingston
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 289

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Dec 2020 10:41

Going to school at 4 - and even 3 - was commonplace

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Dec 2020 10:39

He was in the same trade as his dad

21 Jews Row, Wandsworth, Wandsworth, London, England

George F Bridgman 28 Jun 1886 Male Plasterer Bldg Trade H Married 18 1
Margaret A Bridgman 31 Dec 1888 Female Domestic Duties Unp Married 18 2
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Margaret A McCarthy (Bridgman) 30 Mar 1925 Female Stitching-Upholstery W Single 18 5
Charles E Bridgman 24 Nov 1926 Male At School Single 18 6
Daisy R Berry 11 Oct 1916 Female Rag Sorter Single 18 7
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Ref: RG101/0609C/003/12 Letter Code: AXVU

Note he has a son the same name as the brother born 1892 !

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Dec 2020 10:34

Differences in YOB and father's name already explained above - human error.


Another child ?
BRIDGMAN, ROSE mmn TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 751


Rose Bridgman
in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
Name: Rose Bridgman
Age: 6
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1893
Admission Date: 23 Apr 1900
School: Garratt Lane School
Father: Edward Bridgman <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Notes: Garratt Lane School (0339) opened in 1876. Became Gertrude Sanson Primary School in 1951. Closed or reorganised in 196-

Same schoool as George.


Rose Bridgman
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Rose Bridgman
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Visitor
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wandsworth, London, England
Civil Parish: Streatham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Summerstown
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration District: Wandsworth
Sub-registration District: Streatham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors:
Piece: 471
Folio: 23
Page Number: 38
Household Schedule Number: 247
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick Darvill 42
Caroline Darvill 35
Fanny E Darvill 18
Frederick T Darvill 16
Caroline H Darvill 15
Priscilla Darvill 13
Annie M Darvill 10
Francis Darvill 8
William A Darvill 5
Mary V Darvill 3
James J Darvill 1
Rose Bridgman 8


??
Rose Bridgeman
in the London, England, Poor Law School District Registers, 1852-1918
Name: Rose Bridgeman
Admission Age: 12
Record Type: Admission
Birth Date: 23 Jul 1893
Admission Date: 26 Feb 1906
Admission Place: Wandsworth, London, London, England
Admission Poor Law Union: Wandsworth
School: Intermediate School Swaffield Road
School District: Wandsworth

That reocrd gives mother's name as Rose Bridgeman - but that could be a mistake.

Paul

Paul Report 5 Dec 2020 10:32

What do you make of the fact that George attended an infant school aged 4? Isn't that a bit early? Does it suggest anything about mother Amelia at the time? Considering sister Amelia had just died.

Paul

Paul Report 5 Dec 2020 10:31

Thank you for all this research guys :-D

Marriage certificate does not show the father as deceased, no. But both witnesses are not family members as far as I can see.

The birth of another child to Edward and Amelia in 1892 - thank you - I had not spotted that. That could give some more clues to link to the 1921/1939 George.

The 1901 uncle - I'm not so sure about this. I spotted this but was not so convinced because I cannot find a Henry as a brother of Edward.

With the 1911 uncles Charles and Thomas it made me think that even if he did not know his father well he would still have known his name. But maybe Edwin was what his brother's referred to him as, I guess.

Also consistent with the theory that the 1921 George did not know his father was that the father's profession was "labourer" which seems pretty generic. The Edward, father of the 1888 George was a plasterer.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Dec 2020 10:23

As George isn’t with his parents from 1891 then it’s very likely he only had little information about them from his memory

The differences you see are in fact quite usual in genealogy terms

Information is only as good as what people think they know