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ArgyllGran
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5 Dec 2020 11:33 |
Possible death of Edward ?? YOB 1865 per 1891 census:
Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%) Bridgman Edward 38 Croydon 2a 143
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5 Dec 2020 11:30 |
Name: William Hinson Gender: Male Marital Status: Widowed Birth Date: 25/09/1869 (25 Sep 1869) Residence Year: 1939 Address: 283 Manchester Rd Residence Place: Wandsworth London England Occupation: Bricklayers Retired Line Number: 10 Schedule Number: 30 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: AXVS Borough: Wandsworth
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5 Dec 2020 11:26 |
I'm glad you found the Hinson marriage, - not in the year I expected.
Amelia Sarah Hison in the 1911 England Census Name: Amelia Sarah Hison Age in 1911: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: BRENTFORD, England Civil Parish: Wandsworth County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 5 Armoury Yard, The Plain Wandsworth S W Marital status: Married Estimated Marriage Year: 1906 Registration District: Wandsworth Registration District Number: 26 Sub-registration District: Southfields ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Piece: 2397 Household Members: Name Age William Hison 47 Amelia Sarah Hison 44
Married 5 years, no children.
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5 Dec 2020 11:22 |
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Deaths Jun 1903 (>99%) Bridgman Edward 38 Croydon 2a 143
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Dec 2020 11:18 |
Did Amelia remarry
Marriages Mar 1911 Bridgman Amelia S Wandsworth 1d 674 Forster Thomas M P J Wandsworth 1d 674 Gale Annie G Wandsworth 1d 674 Hinson William Wandsworth 1d 674
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5 Dec 2020 11:16 |
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First name(s) Amelia S Last name Bridgman Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1911 Registration month - Amelia S Bridgman married William Hinson, District Wandsworth District number - County London Country England Volume 1D Volume as transcribed 1D
Name: Amelia S Hinson Death Age: 68 Birth Date: abt 1867 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar 1935 Registration District: Battersea Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 417
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5 Dec 2020 11:05 |
Name: Charles Edward Bridgeman Gender: Male Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 29 Dec 1892 Baptism Place: Earlsfield St Andrew, Wandsworth, England Father: Edward Bridgeman..............................Plasterer Mother: Amelia Sarah Bridgeman 66 Bendon Valley
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5 Dec 2020 11:05 |
Yet another child ??
BRIDGMAN, JOSEPH mmn TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 719
?? Joseph Bridgman in the 1901 England Census Name: Joseph Bridgman Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relation to Head: Nurse Child (Nurse) Gender: Male Birth Place: St Pancras Wonkhouse, London, England Civil Parish: Watford Ecclesiastical parish: Watford St Andrew County/Island: Hertfordshire Country: England Street Address: 17 Cecil Street Registration District: Watford Sub-registration District: Watford ED, institution, or vessel: 04 Neighbors: Piece: 1316 Folio: 85 Page Number: 5 Household Schedule Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age George Moore 22 Esther Moore 23 Edith Reeve 18 Joseph Bridgman 2
The word "workhouse" in the transcribed birthplace may belong to the person in the line below, in the next household.
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Joe Bridgeman in the 1911 England Census Name: Joe Bridgeman Age in 1911: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Male Civil Parish: Hammersmith County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 37 Cathnor Road, Shepherds Bush Occupation: School Registration District: Fulham Registration District Number: 3 Sub-registration District: North Hammersmith ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 210 Household Members: Name Age Albert Dunsdon 18 - son James Dunsdon 10 - son Herbert Dunsdon 12 - son Alice Dunsdon 48 - wife, widow Joe Bridgeman 11
As it frequently does, Ancestry has mixed this household up with two others - Gowers and Haddock - so I've missed those out when copying here.
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5 Dec 2020 11:05 |
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Charles Robert Bridgman Baptism Age: 1 Birth Date: 6 Nov 1898 Baptism Date: 27 Dec 1899 Baptism Place: South Wimbledon, All Saints, Surrey, England Parish as it Appears: South Wimbledon, All Saints Search Photos: Search for 'South Wimbledon, All Saints' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Edward Bridgman Mother: Amelia Bridgman
Not picking up a birth to confirm it’s the same family
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ErikaH
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5 Dec 2020 10:59 |
Name: Amelia Sarah Taylor Gender: Female Marriage Age: 19 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1864 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1883 Marriage Place: St Leonard St Mary, Bromley, Tower Hamlets, England Father: Thomas William Taylor Spouse: Edward Bridgman...........Plasterer Father: Edward Bridgman...........Plasterer.
Witnesses: Thomas William Taylor and A Bridgman
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5 Dec 2020 10:52 |
Edwards father was also and .Edward and still in the same trade !
Note many of the family names too
View 1881 England Census View blank form Add or update information Report a problem Name: Edward Bridgeman Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Mary Ann Bridgeman Gender: Male Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 87 Venue Street Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Plasterer Registration District: Poplar ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 501 Folio: 10 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Edward Bridgeman 43 Mary Ann Bridgeman 40 Mary Ann Bridgeman 21 Edward Bridgeman 17 Adam Bridgeman 15 Janet Bridgeman 13 Charles Bridgeman 11 Emely Bridgeman 8 Thomas Bridgeman 5 Rosey Bridgeman 3 (not transcribed)
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5 Dec 2020 10:49 |
??? More chhildren ??
BRIDGMAN, HENRY ROBERT TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 759
BRIDGMAN, JAMES TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 787
BRIDGMAN, THOMAS WILLIAM TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 749
Thomas Bridgman in the 1911 England Census Name: Thomas Bridgman Age in 1911: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Nephew Gender: Male Birth Place: Wandsworth, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Carshalton County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address: Batts Farm, Rose Hill Mitcham, Surrey Marital status: Single Occupation: Farmer Assistant Registration District: Epsom Registration District Number: 31 Sub-registration District: Carshalton ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Piece: 2928 Household Members: Name Age Charles Bridgman 40 Thomas Bridgman 35 - brother, Poplar George Bridgman 24 - nephew, Poplar Thomas Bridgman 15 - nephew, Wandsworth
Thomas Bridgman in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 Name: Thomas Bridgman Gender: Male Age: 5 Birth Date: 24 May 1895 Admission Date: 27 Aug 1900 School: Garratt Lane School <<<<<<<<<<< Father: Edward Bridgman <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Notes: Garratt Lane School (0339) opened in 1876. Became Gertrude Sanson Primary School in 1951. Closed or reorganised in 196-
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5 Dec 2020 10:49 |
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First name(s) Harry Robert Last name Bridgman Gender Male Marital status - Occupation - Event year 1900 Birth year 1899 Age at death 22m Burial year 1900 Burial date 09 Jan 1900 Burial place Morden, Surrey Street address 5 Cowper Road Place Morden County Surrey
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Dec 2020 10:42 |
Two more children
BRIDGMAN, HENRY ROBERT TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1898 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 759 BRIDGMAN, JAMES TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 787
Sadly
James Bridgman Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 Registration Year: 1896 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 0 Registration District: Wandsworth Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 419
And possibly
Harry Robert Bridgman Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Registration Year: 1900 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 1 Registration District: Kingston Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 289
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ErikaH
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5 Dec 2020 10:41 |
Going to school at 4 - and even 3 - was commonplace
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5 Dec 2020 10:39 |
He was in the same trade as his dad
21 Jews Row, Wandsworth, Wandsworth, London, England
George F Bridgman 28 Jun 1886 Male Plasterer Bldg Trade H Married 18 1 Margaret A Bridgman 31 Dec 1888 Female Domestic Duties Unp Married 18 2 The record for this person is officially closed. For individual people, records remain closed for a century after their birth (the 100-year rule), unless it can be proven that they passed away before this milestone. Use the ‘Open This Record’ button if you believe that this person is now deceased The record for this person is officially closed. For individual people, records remain closed for a century after their birth (the 100-year rule), unless it can be proven that they passed away before this milestone. Use the ‘Open This Record’ button if you believe that this person is now deceased Margaret A McCarthy (Bridgman) 30 Mar 1925 Female Stitching-Upholstery W Single 18 5 Charles E Bridgman 24 Nov 1926 Male At School Single 18 6 Daisy R Berry 11 Oct 1916 Female Rag Sorter Single 18 7 View first 5 occupants Ref: RG101/0609C/003/12 Letter Code: AXVU
Note he has a son the same name as the brother born 1892 !
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5 Dec 2020 10:34 |
Differences in YOB and father's name already explained above - human error.
Another child ? BRIDGMAN, ROSE mmn TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1893 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 751
Rose Bridgman in the London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 Name: Rose Bridgman Age: 6 Birth Date: 23 Jul 1893 Admission Date: 23 Apr 1900 School: Garratt Lane School Father: Edward Bridgman <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Notes: Garratt Lane School (0339) opened in 1876. Became Gertrude Sanson Primary School in 1951. Closed or reorganised in 196-
Same schoool as George.
Rose Bridgman in the 1901 England Census Name: Rose Bridgman Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Visitor Gender: Female Birth Place: Wandsworth, London, England Civil Parish: Streatham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Summerstown County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Registration District: Wandsworth Sub-registration District: Streatham ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: Piece: 471 Folio: 23 Page Number: 38 Household Schedule Number: 247 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Darvill 42 Caroline Darvill 35 Fanny E Darvill 18 Frederick T Darvill 16 Caroline H Darvill 15 Priscilla Darvill 13 Annie M Darvill 10 Francis Darvill 8 William A Darvill 5 Mary V Darvill 3 James J Darvill 1 Rose Bridgman 8
?? Rose Bridgeman in the London, England, Poor Law School District Registers, 1852-1918 Name: Rose Bridgeman Admission Age: 12 Record Type: Admission Birth Date: 23 Jul 1893 Admission Date: 26 Feb 1906 Admission Place: Wandsworth, London, London, England Admission Poor Law Union: Wandsworth School: Intermediate School Swaffield Road School District: Wandsworth
That reocrd gives mother's name as Rose Bridgeman - but that could be a mistake.
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Paul
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5 Dec 2020 10:32 |
What do you make of the fact that George attended an infant school aged 4? Isn't that a bit early? Does it suggest anything about mother Amelia at the time? Considering sister Amelia had just died.
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5 Dec 2020 10:31 |
Thank you for all this research guys :-D
Marriage certificate does not show the father as deceased, no. But both witnesses are not family members as far as I can see.
The birth of another child to Edward and Amelia in 1892 - thank you - I had not spotted that. That could give some more clues to link to the 1921/1939 George.
The 1901 uncle - I'm not so sure about this. I spotted this but was not so convinced because I cannot find a Henry as a brother of Edward.
With the 1911 uncles Charles and Thomas it made me think that even if he did not know his father well he would still have known his name. But maybe Edwin was what his brother's referred to him as, I guess.
Also consistent with the theory that the 1921 George did not know his father was that the father's profession was "labourer" which seems pretty generic. The Edward, father of the 1888 George was a plasterer.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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5 Dec 2020 10:23 |
As George isn’t with his parents from 1891 then it’s very likely he only had little information about them from his memory
The differences you see are in fact quite usual in genealogy terms
Information is only as good as what people think they know
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